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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 7:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Remember kids, in case of ARF  attack duck and cover, or maybe that should be duck and recover  Really people; do you really think the worlds problems are related to whether we build or buy an toy airplane; or that kids are all lazy,fat, and dumb because of tv? The real problem is the breakdown of the family unit and the failure to accept absolute truths that have proved themselves over and over for thousands of years is what will bring all of down eventually. Parents too self absorbed in their work, hobbies, and the accumalation of stuff charged to a credit card, and the devaluing of life at all stages these are the REAL issues. I would agree with some; put down your own life and invest some time in your marriage and your kids if your so blessed. Show your kids what it really means to sacrifice ones WANT'S for the NEEDS of another. Now that will change the world, and if your kid wants to be part of your hobby then by all means enjoy them. These threads over arfs vs kits always end up here, blaming all the problems in life on the infux of arfs. Very sad indeed.


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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 7:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		You win! I'm going home and destroying all my heart disease causing ARF airplanes. I'll get so much excercise from doing that that I'll have enough energy to sit for hours and hours at my work bench creating something that will inspire all the children to join in with me..sitting for hours and hours watching me build. I'm going over to my hobby shop and throw out all the racks of magazines. I'll also let Horizon and Great planes and Composite ARF and Wild Hare and all the rest of them know what awful things THEY are doing to me and stop it, right now!


Doh! Stepped in it again.

Hopefully this will inspire all those who believe so strongly in the evils of ARF to join with me and...oh never mind, this is stupid.

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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 7:31 PM   
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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 7:34 PM   
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You win! I'm going home and destroying all my heart disease causing ARF airplanes. I'll get so much excercise from doing that that I'll have enough energy to sit for hours and hours at my work bench creating something that will inspire all the children to join in with me..sitting for hours and hours watching me build. I'm going over to my hobby shop and throw out all the racks of magazines. I'll also let Horizon and Great planes and Composite ARF and Wild Hare and all the rest of them know what awful things THEY are doing to me and stop it, right now!


Doh! Stepped in it again.

Hopefully this will inspire all those who believe so strongly in the evils of ARF to join with me and...oh never mind, this is stupid.

Jaybird

Just think of how great it is to separate yourself from people, not coming out for months, and sort of become a reckluse (sp?) covered in glue in your little building area building your planes. Somehow that seems so much more fulfilling than going out and hanging around people, doesn't it?

This is getting much more entertaining than I ever imagined it would.

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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 7:36 PM   
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Informative and useful.....no (if you want to enjoy your HOBBY more)

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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 7:37 PM   
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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 7:48 PM   
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I was flying a scratch built plane two weeks ago and the wing flew off in the air. I should start an, ''I hate scratch built planes'' thread now



Not at all.

Just start a thread on crappy built planes, whether they be scratch, kit or ARF.

It's ultimately the quality of the build that counts. You make junk, you get junk and suffer the consequences. There are lots of builders who can't build worth a hoot.

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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 9:05 PM   
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These threads over arfs vs kits always end up here, blaming all the problems in life on the infux of arfs. Very sad indeed.

Yor "take" on what some of us are saying is completely bass-ackwards.
I've been saying that the huge popularity of ARFS is indicative of what the "man of today" has become...not the cause.
Some folks here need to sharpen up their reading comprehension skills in order to fully [partially?] understand what has been put into print here.


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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 9:08 PM   
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When my youngest daughter was little the rec had a basketball tournament where they devided the kids up. They played and my daughters team did come in dead last. And yes she and all her team was handed the same trophys that first place got. I sure got the looks when I refused it. Then I had to explain to my daughter why and what the trophy represents. Her team did not win outside of having fun. In my family we do put up trophys and ribbons but they have to meen something like you really did come in in the top three or won the poetry contest, (daughter was published with that one) my kids knew it was more then entering or just playing the game. They were expexted to do thier best! If they did thier best and it only got them a 4 th place then that was fine. I never told them what sports to play but I did exspect them to play something if it be a sport or an intrument they was to do something in thier spare time because there was no tv. All my girls did do the band in school. And play some sports. Kids will get lazy if you let them. I have never been lazy and would not alow it with them. We worked hard on the weekend and when done we played hard at the basketball hoop or a nice picnic with a frisbie. We kept a pace and to this day my kids have done very well in the job market.


Hats off to you!  Thank god there are others who think like me. 



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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 9:13 PM   
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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 9:16 PM   
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I do know what you are saying the mags seem to be all about arfs and foamys anymore may not renew this year.


Hairy, if you ever see a copy of "Stunt News"..grab it..! It is a magazine dedicated to control line but it is chock full of great building articles and there usually are some plans in each issue. It isn't RC related at all...but it really does relate to RC builders who want to stay on top of the lightest building and finishing techniques. Some of the most beautiful original designs I've ever seen and they don't need too much imagination to build as RC models. I'm not sure if it is still being published, but it might show up at swap meets.
Believe it or not, Brodak imports a couple ARFS of famous old C/L designs that fly real well. Many of those guys are "old codgers" who can't build any more due to one reason or another..[some might just be too lazy].


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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 9:18 PM   
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These threads over arfs vs kits always end up here, blaming all the problems in life on the infux of arfs. Very sad indeed.

Yor "take" on what some of us are saying is completely bass-ackwards.
I've been saying that the huge popularity of ARFS is indicative of what the "man of today" has become...not the cause.
Some folks here need to sharpen up their reading comprehension skills in order to fully [partially?] understand what has been put into print here.


I understood it. Doesnt require a BA in science to understand where you are gonig with it. Just common sense... oh, wait, sorry, people seem to have run out of that too recently.  

In a way, what you are saying about ARF's generally relates to just about everything else around us. Fast food, instant microwave meals, drive throughs, online banking.  People are forgetting how to cook healthy, which is leading to obesity. People take their cars much to much for granted, drive here, go through the drive through, drive there, go through the drive through, hey look a parking spt right in front of the door, lucky me, dont have to waste fat going to the store.  

Dont even get me started on so called Healthy food!  If it comes in a package, it is NOT healthy!



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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 9:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok I will watch for it. I buy old mags from ebay because they have builds in them. Sure wish there was a new mag that was intended for the builder.

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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 9:39 PM   
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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 9:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Flying Models mag has about as much DIY content as I've seen recently.
They even have a 1/2A section.
Obviously they have found a niche market that is doomed for extinction....


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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 10:10 PM   
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What, you think I'm lying?
Do you have anything worth posting?
Apparently not.


REALLY? lol....If you put this much effort into the hobby and building your own planes and you'd probably be a much happier person and stop whining.

I'm whining?
Can you even read?
The stickbuilders are whining about arfs.
Which are you?
An arfer or a whiner?

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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 11:14 PM   
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These threads over arfs vs kits always end up here, blaming all the problems in life on the infux of arfs. Very sad indeed.

Yor ''take'' on what some of us are saying is completely bass-ackwards.
I've been saying that the huge popularity of ARFS is indicative of what the ''man of today'' has become...not the cause.
Some folks here need to sharpen up their reading comprehension skills in order to fully [partially?] understand what has been put into print here.


"...the huge popularity of ARFS is indicative of what the "man of today" has become..."

Lol.
I can't wait for the next installment of "combatpigg diagnoses mankinds evils and ills".
Maybe RC helicopters are an indicative of what the ritalin deprived ADHD kids have become?

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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/22/2012 11:39 PM   
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Lol.
I can't wait for the next installment of ''combatpigg diagnoses mankinds evils and ills''.
Maybe RC helicopters are an indicative of what the ritalin deprived ADHD kids have become?


You've already demonstrated that you don't understand a word I've said so I can't expect you to address my points with an intelligent response worthy of any more comment than this.



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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/23/2012 2:57 AM   
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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/23/2012 3:37 AM   
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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/23/2012 3:59 AM   
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What, you think I'm lying?
Do you have anything worth posting?
Apparently not.


REALLY? lol....If you put this much effort into the hobby and building your own planes and you'd probably be a much happier person and stop whining.

I'm whining?
Can you even read?
The stickbuilders are whining about arfs.
Which are you?
An arfer or a whiner?


I'm not whining about a damn thing, but I'm Stickbuilder

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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/23/2012 6:41 AM   
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If you want to know why Chinese kids aren't fat like American kids, it's because there in a sweat shop building your AFR's.

Rick


Send a suggestion to the Presidential Counsel for Physical Fitness and maybe they can get a "cultural exchange" program going with some of our dimensionally challenged children.
It's a win-win. The Chinese get some free labor and the fat younsters "on loan" from the USA will get to learn how to slop planes together with hot glue, luan pulp plywood, grade Z balsa and shelf paper covering..


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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/23/2012 10:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		We all enjoy the hobby in our own way, Some like kit building some like ARFs and some like both. All that matters is that we see each other at the field and have a good time doing what we like. I think that sums it up. BTW people do hobbies to get away from life and unwind, This doesn't seem like the place to talk about child obesity...


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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/23/2012 12:18 PM   
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We all enjoy the hobby in our own way, Some like kit building some like ARFs and some like both. All that matters is that we see each other at the field and have a good time doing what we like. I think that sums it up. BTW people do hobbies to get away from life and unwind, This doesn't seem like the place to talk about child obesity...



Yeah, but you have to remember that ARFs are the cause of child obesity

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RE: No more ARF's for me - 10/23/2012 12:33 PM   
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Lol.
I can't wait for the next installment of ''combatpigg diagnoses mankinds evils and ills''.
Maybe RC helicopters are an indicative of what the ritalin deprived ADHD kids have become?


You've already demonstrated that you don't understand a word I've said so I can't expect you to address my points with an intelligent response worthy of any more comment than this.


Not that I don't understand what you are saying.
It's that I don't understand why you would say them.
Other than to whizz off other folks.
I've seen that pattern before.

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