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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/11/2012 12:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		     6 inches at tip  8 inches at root 27 inches long.               I come up with162sq. in.  


I changed this as I put 17" long and it is 27"  but the 162sq  in should be a good #


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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/11/2012 4:05 PM   
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Thanks, Don;

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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/11/2012 7:58 PM   
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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/11/2012 10:37 PM   
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Wll in the first photo you see my old Enya .19VI and it fit then a I pulled out the Magnum .15XLS and refit the smaller engine now I am waiting for the new OS.10LA engines to get  here. That is holding up 2 planes now this one and the Ringmaster Jr and now I need smaller lines,  So I ordered some .12 cable 7 strand.
I have .15 by 55 ft. but they will be to large I think....
 
I am doing all this because I want the stellar performance.....


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This is a picture of an La 10 set up for C/L.
The venturi is from Jim Lee Machine shop and the Needled valve assembly is the now unobtainable assembly that OS used to make for the FP 10. The muffler is a custom unit by Scott Reise that also fits the LA and FP10/15 engines. The venturis are easy to obtain, the NVA's are unobtanium.

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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/11/2012 11:40 PM   
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Status: online 		I wasn't following this thread but the AP .09 and .15 which is just an overbored .09 are still being made. They are much cheaper than OS stuff and almost as good.  I just flew my AP .15 with a homemade venturi/needle valve and it went pretty good. I got dizzy anyway.  A carb and needle need to be scrounged.  I have seen an .09 with a control line carb and needle, but don't know if they are still available.  A pressure fitting can be screwed in the top of an insert and a remote needle or whatever.  They are a BB rear exhaust which is kind of kool, and $35.

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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/12/2012 12:53 AM   
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Status: online 		The one with the black head is the .15 and the c/l needle and carb.  The other one is the .09 with the muffler hole enlarged and a new stinger to allow it. I also made an exh. extension for a pipe or?  They are kind of the new chinese Cox replacement IMHO.

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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/12/2012 7:17 PM   
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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/13/2012 12:16 AM   
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The one with the black head is the .15 and the c/l needle and carb.  The other one is the .09 with the muffler hole enlarged and a new stinger to allow it. I also made an exh. extension for a pipe or?  They are kind of the new chinese Cox replacement IMHO.



Hi Aspeed, I believe the AP .09 and .15 are 4 1/2 oz and 5 oz engines. If that's true,

then they are way too heavy for the wing area of the Sterling repros and Ringmaster Jr.

Their performance would be seriously compromised by the heavy resulting wing loadings.

I think The AP .09 would work okay in a Flite Streak Jr or an Ackromaster and the AP .15

would do very well powering a Profile Peacemaker.

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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/13/2012 1:00 AM   
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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/17/2012 1:04 PM   
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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/17/2012 1:06 PM   
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This engine comes in at around 4.5oz  with out muffler.
The plane comes in just under 13oz. RTF


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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/20/2012 10:58 PM   
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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/21/2012 12:45 AM   
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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/21/2012 2:33 AM   
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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/24/2012 9:54 PM   
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I am going to run this one straight pipes.. 



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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 10/25/2012 4:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		I built a Ringmaster Jr. in the mid-fifties and it flew OK with an OK Cub. 099 and McCoy .098.

It flew even better with a McCoy .09 diesel and a K&B Greenhead .09. A Cox TD .09 would be another great choice.

Later engines such as the OS, Magnum and Thundertiger .10 engines are much heavier and when you add the muffler it makes a small model like a Ringmaster Jr. a bit nose heavy.

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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 11/1/2012 7:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Muffler, we don't need no stinking muffler.
   I know we need to be responsible now days and act like adults. I fly in the country just south of Mason Dixon line and the closest farm is 3/4 miles away.   This one will make some noise...


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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 1/14/2013 1:09 AM   
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Not me,but I'm working on a Midwest .15-powered ME-109 (my second). It was my first "big plane" in 1973!
Justin


So how is that Me-109 coming I know youhave been building ringmasters and P-40s and akromaserts but come on I want to see theMe-109.
I ordered one but they were out of stock so I got the Brodak Ringmaster Si and another ring Jr. You see I have 5 Grandsons and they will be
the right age soon.

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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 1/14/2013 3:17 AM   
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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 1/14/2013 4:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dan Vincent I built a Ringmaster Jr. in the mid-fifties and it flew OK with an OK Cub. 099 and McCoy .098. It flew even better with a McCoy .09 diesel and a K&B Greenhead .09. A Cox TD .09 would be another great choice.

Later engines such as the OS, Magnum and Thundertiger .10 engines are much heavier and when you add the muffler it makes a small model like a Ringmaster Jr. a bit nose heavy.

I'm thinking for this 27.5 inch (700 mm) span P-40 airplane would be well suited for a Gilbert .11 Thunderhead engine. To keep the nose light, one could leave the twin muffler stacks off.

I've got a Midwest P-40 Warhawk 33" CL kit, targeting my McCoy .19 Red Head for it. Clearing my plate of other projects, it will be a future build.

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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 1/14/2013 5:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dennis This is a picture of an La 10 set up for C/L. The venturi is from Jim Lee Machine shop and the Needled valve assembly is the now unobtainable assembly that OS used to make for the FP 10. The muffler is a custom unit by Scott Reise that also fits the LA and FP10/15 engines. The venturis are easy to obtain, the NVA's are unobtanium.

I don't know if the 10LA can use a 15FP-S NVA, but there is one on E-Bay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221133786581



I don't know if an Enya .09 CL NVA will work, but here's one also from E-Bay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310541794540



OEM Enya .09 CL NVA:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290834773241



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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 1/14/2013 8:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have those needle valves and i got them from the same person in FL but I don't know if they work on the 10LA.
The spray bar may be to long and the enya 15 is larger but the .09 may work.
If any one is looking for an old Veco or Perfect tank let me know.

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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 1/15/2013 5:22 PM   
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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 1/15/2013 8:59 PM   
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 A friend of mine had a hobby shop and closed it up about 20 years ago so I got a big box of stuff like wheels,tanks,and hundreds of little bags of parts like bell cranks, lead out wires, eyelets, blind nuts and on and on.  I will never use it all. I will never use the Jetex fuel pellets.



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RE: Starting a P-40 By Brodak - 1/16/2013 2:13 AM   
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Well! as it just so happens, the ME-109 is ready to go except for breaking the engine in ...The tail wheel area has been repainted to cover the off color fabric reinforcement and the spinner is going to be the correct size. Thanks for asking!



That's a really nice model!
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