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Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/19/2012 11:06 PM   
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/19/2012 11:30 PM   
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/20/2012 2:35 AM   
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/20/2012 6:43 AM   
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http://www.prorc.fi/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_product_id=229&virtuemart_category_id=11&Itemid=81

which lists it at 630 Euros would make it about $830 USD or so. No idea what it will sell for here in the US or when it will be available. I think the Finnish site said December.

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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/20/2012 9:17 AM   
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When Tower will have who knows....probably end Jan / mid Feb in stock?


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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/21/2012 11:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		It will very interesting to see if the 14SG will use the same programming as the 18MZ so the models are interchangable and the 14SG could be a backup for the 18MZ.. When the 12FG came out, it was unfortunate the 12FG models weren't directly compatible with the 12Z and 14MZ. You have to use a program to reformat the models so they can be moved between them.

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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/22/2012 1:22 AM   
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It will very interesting to see if the 14SG will use the same programming as the 18MZ so the models are interchangable and the 14SG could be a backup for the 18MZ.. When the 12FG came out, it was unfortunate the 12FG models weren't directly compatible with the 12Z and 14MZ. You have to use a program to reformat the models so they can be moved between them.

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Not likely. What would be the point if this transmitter will do eveything the 18MZ will do at less than 1/3 price?

I surmise this is a telemetry equipped (it says FASSTEST on the face) pumped up 8FG (which can be updated to 14 channels).


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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/22/2012 2:34 AM   
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I surmise this is a telemetry equipped (it says FASSTEST on the face) pumped up 8FG (which can be updated to 14 channels).



The current model 8FG Super now comes as a 14-channel radio, no need to update unless you have the straight 8FG (non-Super).

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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/22/2012 4:00 AM   
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It will very interesting to see if the 14SG will use the same programming as the 18MZ so the models are interchangable and the 14SG could be a backup for the 18MZ.. When the 12FG came out, it was unfortunate the 12FG models weren't directly compatible with the 12Z and 14MZ. You have to use a program to reformat the models so they can be moved between them.

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Not likely. What would be the point if this transmitter will do eveything the 18MZ will do at less than 1/3 price?

I surmise this is a telemetry equipped (it says FASSTEST on the face) pumped up 8FG (which can be updated to 14 channels).


Well, the 12FG does everything the 14MZ does (with minor exceptions) at about 1/3 the cost. The issue with the 12FG is the model transfer inconvenience with the higher end radios. Also, following Futaba's approach, they release the top of the line model then start backfilling with less expensive models to continue to leverage the technology investment. Basically, the 18MZ is just a 14MZ on steroids. Other than telemetry and a new screen they are basically the same functionally. I don't own a 18MZ but some friends do and we can't find much difference.

Not quibbling, just hoping they will be compatible for model transfer.

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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/22/2012 11:17 AM   
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The current model 8FG Super now comes as a 14-channel radio, no need to update unless you have the straight 8FG (non-Super).


You can update non super 8fg to 14 channels. Update is on futaba site for free.



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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/22/2012 3:46 PM   
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Don't make the mistake of doing a currency conversion on the Euro price of the 14GS. That price in Euros includes the VAT and is based on yen to Euro conversion, not Yen to USD, which is what Towers price will be determined by. Look at Robbe's price in Euros for current Futaba models vs Towers USD prices. Somewhere south of 700 bucks is a good guesstimate . Heck, the USD price on the 12FG is a lower number than the Robbe price in Euros.
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/22/2012 6:05 PM   
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/22/2012 7:37 PM   
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/22/2012 8:15 PM   
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Well, the 12FG does everything the 14MZ does (with minor exceptions) at about 1/3 the cost. The issue with the 12FG is the model transfer inconvenience with the higher end radios. Also, following Futaba's approach, they release the top of the line model then start backfilling with less expensive models to continue to leverage the technology investment. Basically, the 18MZ is just a 14MZ on steroids. Other than telemetry and a new screen they are basically the same functionally. I don't own a 18MZ but some friends do and we can't find much difference.

Not quibbling, just hoping they will be compatible for model transfer.

Woodie

I have the 12FG, 14MZ and the 18MZ. You are correct in that the programming is similar although each has enhancements and additional capabilities as you move up the line. Model transfer is easy too if you move models up the line but restricted if trying to move down line.

I suspect transfer from the new 14SG down to the 8FG may be possible since the numbers of channels is the same. Appears to be a good fit in the entire line both in features and price.

Personally I like the visual programming provided by the 14 & 18 graphic displays. All three are eazy to program but the higher end versions do provide more capability and features than the 12.


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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/22/2012 9:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah just remember the 14SG is FASSTest transmit receive protocol. It does not hop across the same number of channels and uses a different DSSS sequence.
So to transfer a model that is set up in the 14SG 14Channel (S.bus 2/ Multi 3) mode will not be recognised by your 8FG.
A model set up in FASST Multi II mode could be transferred between the 14SG and 8FG(S).

It is also likely the 14SG will have S-FHSS transmit capability to allow it be a more cost effective option for folk who want Futaba FTR ready to fly airplanes.
it may look like just an upgraded 8FG but there more going on inside that box than mere looks suggest


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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/22/2012 9:40 PM   
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/24/2012 3:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi guys, while we are a bit early in the release of the 14SG. I'll try to answer some of your questions about it. Here are answers to the questions I can recall so far. Btw, the 14SG web page will be up soon, so keep checking at www.futaba-rc.com

Case- no it's not the same as the 8FG, the feel is very solid, switch spacing is wider (like the 18MZ), rubber grips on the sides and back.

Modulation: FASST, FASSTest, and yes...S-FHSS!

Telemetry, with vibration alerts, louder beeper also.

Programming is very similar to the 8FGS.

SensorTouch programming dial has been improved, it also has two buttons. You'll read more about these when the web page is up.

6v 1700 NiMH pack for power. I don't have run times yet, but so far it looks like well over 4 hours depending on how much you use the backlighting.

That's it for now, let me know if you have additional questions and I'll try to answer them.

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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/24/2012 4:47 PM   
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When can we place orders?

Bit disappointed with the NiMH Tx pack but it no biggy. I have one in my 8FG V5.0 and a spare anyway + a Gens Ace 7.4 2600mA.hr Lipo.

I am assuming it is software upgradable as well, like 8FG and 18MZ.   YES/NO

WIll it have flight conditions in airplane mode? YES/NO

I see mode changes are now 7Ch, 8CH (multi) and 14Channel (multi II). Hows does this affect S.bus set up? 

Are the slider switches on the side improved with a smoother ratchet?

Can conditions be assigned to the dial switches with audible beesp to indicate position?


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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/24/2012 6:05 PM   
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You'll need to check with your retailer as to when they will accept orders.

Yes the software is user updatable.

The various modes all work with S.Bus as long as you are using an S.Bus receiver. For this system you will have FASST: 7ch & Multi; FASSTest 12 & 14 channel, S-FHSS

I'll have to get back to on the rest.

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When can we place orders?

Bit disappointed with the NiMH Tx pack but it no biggy. I have one in my 8FG V5.0 and a spare anyway + a Gens Ace 7.4 2600mA.hr Lipo.

I am assuming it is software upgradable as well, like 8FG and 18MZ.   YES/NO

WIll it have flight conditions in airplane mode? YES/NO

I see mode changes are now 7Ch, 8CH (multi) and 14Channel (multi II). Hows does this affect S.bus set up? 

Are the slider switches on the side improved with a smoother ratchet?

Can conditions be assigned to the dial switches with audible beesp to indicate position?




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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/24/2012 6:24 PM   
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/26/2012 9:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Folks, I just received word that you should be able to pre-order 14SG's starting this weekend. Just to be clear, I'm talking about the market serviced by Hobbico (North America). Other distributors may have different plans.

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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 10/29/2012 10:46 PM   
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 2/14/2013 4:44 PM   
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 2/15/2013 4:35 PM   
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RE: Futaba 14SG, coming soon - 2/15/2013 5:38 PM   
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Some pictures and details of unboxing Futaba 14SG ...

http://www.rcpak.com/index.php/forum/85-air-radios-and-accessories/47132-futaba-14sg-unboxing#53311

Why not post the pictures here so we don't have to register on some unknown site. But thanks anyway.

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