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Land Fills and Runways - 10/23/2012 5:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are four clubs in our area. All are very good clubs and all four are on land fills. A fifth club is now in the process of developing another site on a closed land fill. How many other clubs are on land fills? The AMA helped us 19 years ago with our project. Still going strong.

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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 10/23/2012 6:08 PM   
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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 10/24/2012 12:55 AM   
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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 10/24/2012 3:20 PM   
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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 10/24/2012 3:37 PM   
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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 10/26/2012 2:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Our Club, in Columbus, IN, flies from a closed landfill. We started flying there during the summer of '07, shortly after our Club was chartered. The only drawback is the 'settling' that is natural to the surface of a landfill, which causes changes in grade over time. We've been able to deal with that quite well, and, this year, the Solid Waste Management District hired a contractor to regrade the site. Our Club was able to pay a reasonable fee to the contractor to do some extra work, and we will have an even better place to fly next season. Check us out at http://www.bcrcfliers.org .

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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 10/26/2012 2:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		down here, the regulations require a vent pipe to be in place every so many square ft of the landfill surface to bleed off gas. these pipes generally are 3-4 ft protruding above the surface, and close enough together that establishing runways and such is a rather difficult task.


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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 10/26/2012 5:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Those are garbage dumps, I was talking land fills with stuff other than garbage. Methane gas is the gas in garbage dumps. The reason for the vents.

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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 10/26/2012 2:49 PM   
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Those are garbage dumps, I was talking land fills with stuff other than garbage. Methane gas is the gas in garbage dumps. The reason for the vents.

Not sure what you mean by "landfill" but most people around here seem to use "dump" and "landfill" interchangeably. What type is the landfills you wish to discuss?

FWIW three of the flying fields around here are old dump landfills. Grateful to have them but it sure would be awesome if model aviation was recognized as a little more worthwhile to get some of the better ground.

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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 10/26/2012 2:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: koastrc

Those are garbage dumps, I was talking land fills with stuff other than garbage. Methane gas is the gas in garbage dumps. The reason for the vents.

In many areas they are one and the same.

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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 10/26/2012 7:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		The landfills I have seen with the gas vent pipes around DFW do not have so many that it would be a huge issue to work around to have a flying field.

The WAMS club in Weatherford has had a decent flying site on a landfill for a number of years. There is a landfill in Dallas near Lewisville that we occasionally slope soar from....but it is still active in places and the aroma is less than enticing....

A landfill sure beats no flying field, but I am glad we (Fort Worth Thunderbirds) have a great field on US Army Corps of Engineers park property. It was featured in MA a couple of months ago. We were able to obtain a good bit of Corp funding for moving our field from one part of the park to another for safety reasons, but we in the club also put in about 60K to make it happen.

Let me extend an invitation to any AMA member to stop by and fly with us. The field is semi public and you do not have to be a member of the club to fly there. (We lease the property from the Corp) The field is on the south end of Benbrook Lake, just west of Mustang Park. Come by and fly sometime.

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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 11/11/2012 7:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		let me give you my experience with landfills, I was a member of a rather large club in south Florida that had their club on the top of a landfill it is now a golf course. i do not know the details as i moved from Florida years a ago but I can assume that i was from the encroaching housing development.  

there is another example of a club that was on top of a landfill that was electric only, due to noise.  that club was closed because they are now building a solar farm on top of the dump 


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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 11/11/2012 11:18 PM   
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let me give you my experience with landfills, I was a member of a rather large club in south Florida that had their club on the top of a landfill it is now a golf course. i do not know the details as i moved from Florida years a ago but I can assume that i was from the encroaching housing development.  

there is another example of a club that was on top of a landfill that was electric only, due to noise.  that club was closed because they are now building a solar farm on top of the dump 


Thanks for your input...sometimes we take things for granted and lack appreciation for what it is we have...and we often forget everything eventually comes to an end...instead we often become complacent and selfishly fail to take the actions that protect our position the most...

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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 11/11/2012 11:54 PM   
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down here, the regulations require a vent pipe to be in place every so many square ft of the landfill surface to bleed off gas. these pipes generally are 3-4 ft protruding above the surface, and close enough together that establishing runways and such is a rather difficult task.

Start a company to re-capture the gas! It's done here in KY. I'm a TX grad... I love TX almost as much as KY! Go Coogs!

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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 11/14/2012 12:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		We have a nice club field on a landfill here in Mobile Alabama. The only problem that is we have a asphalt runway and every couple of years it develops some pretty big cracks and parts sink. Anyone have any ideas on the best way to repair something like that? So far what we've done is to put sand in the cracks and then use concrete to patch and level it.

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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 11/14/2012 1:58 PM   
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Status: online 		The repair is simply to do what you are currently doing. The cure is more involved, and requires stablizing the soil under the runway.
An extreme case/ example involves placing a significant "overburden" on the soil, letting it sit for several months, removing it, and then repaving the runway.



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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 11/22/2012 11:53 PM   
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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 12/7/2012 11:04 PM   
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How is it that some sites allow development - buildings, paved runway/taxiway, pole shelter, etc., ?

Our local club is on a landfill (I agree, same as dump) and is not allowed to fill low spots, put up any structure that penetrates more the 12", or have electric. One would think it's a Superfund site or nuke repository. They did move some of the vents to facilitate a runway.
 I can only assume the clubs with such improvements are adjoining (not on top of) the actual landfill, or have very different oversight.



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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 1/2/2013 7:51 PM   
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RE: Land Fills and Runways - 1/22/2013 4:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Have to try this again. My previous post got lost on upload. My club flys from a sealed and covered flyash dump. It's at the top of a 40 or 50' hill. It has an active farm on one side, a Metroparks bike trail, two sealed sanitary landfills, an active sanitary landfill, and a semi protected wetland on two other sides. We have a runway approximately 100' X 450'. The cover is thick enough to have let us put up a flagpole and a windsock. We have about 40 or 50 acres to the East to fly over. Closest neighbor is the property owner, almost 1000' away. Area around our area is usually planted in soy and winter wheat. We fly anything from micro ERC to 40% scale and Turbines. Also when there's no RC flying going on, some of us fly CL, FF, and Rockets. We have a very good relationship with the property owner.

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