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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/30/2012 1:29 PM   
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At least Tamiya has models to cater for everyone, the noobs, the bashers the club racers and the high end pro racers. 

I have never had issues with tamiya diff out drives stripping. 

It seems experiences with rc vehicles diff vastly (whether its traxxas, tamiya or whatever). 

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kinda exactly what I was getting at, but there were a few turds made that every one that posted on the particular model (on pretty much every board I seen) had almost the same exact experience with (Brama 10b is one such RC for example)

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/30/2012 2:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yea, seams everyones experiance is different. Seems a contrast thing, you dont know what you dont know because it is all you have ever had.

I dont have real high end stuff either on the grand scale of expense. All my stuff is for racing though and I race oval not off road so bashing is not really an option. Yea all my stuff is DURATRAX. Thats the brand I prefere....NOT! Ironically the first hobby grade I had was a Nitro Evader. It was a learning experiance mang.
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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/30/2012 3:31 PM   
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Well this thread was good for a laugh.

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Traxxas owner?

What of it?

On the sliders (axles, driveshafts or whatever you want to call them) I have never had a problem with my BL E-Revo and I know another member here who is the same. I like to think I bash reasonably hard, I have recent pics in the BL E-Revo thread if you want to see. I did break a dog bone but the gearing I had at the time was a little crazy/stupid.

Sorry for sharing my opinions, you know being that I'm not a hater and all.

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/30/2012 5:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		What's funny is that once someone says they've never had a problem with these so-called "problematic" Traxxas parts, all sorts of exceptions are thrown: My two wheel drive pede never shredded a slider shaft - "Well that's because it's 2wd." Another guy's Nitro Revo never shredded a shaft - "Oh that's because brushless is more powerful."

A thread like this is stupid. It's obvious Traxxas has their place. If you don't like Traxxas, don't buy their stuff. Nobody is being "dooped" into buying Traxxas vehicles. If you drive like an idiot, it doesn't matter who made your RC vehicle, you're going to break parts.

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/30/2012 5:45 PM  1 votes
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What's funny is that once someone says they've never had a problem with these so-called ''problematic'' Traxxas parts, all sorts of exceptions are thrown: My two wheel drive pede never shredded a slider shaft - ''Well that's because it's 2wd.'' Another guy's Nitro Revo never shredded a shaft - ''Oh that's because brushless is more powerful.''

A thread like this is stupid. It's obvious Traxxas has their place. If you don't like Traxxas, don't buy their stuff. Nobody is being ''dooped'' into buying Traxxas vehicles. If you drive like an idiot, it doesn't matter who made your RC vehicle, you're going to break parts.

ok and?
You are going to say the stress on a part is identical when you have completely different power plants, drive chain configurations, tire types, and surface its driven on?

Also some good does come out of these type of posts like I found out there was an alternative to the sliders for the pede 4X4 that I didn't know about prior

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/30/2012 6:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wondering why the fanboys are even typing anything into this post. It is clearly stated Traxxas haters opinion please. It's like a dude walking into the womens can.........and ****en because theres no dudes...........really? Leave your opinion as it realates to the topic and carry on....Maybe Traxxas is listening, maybe not. If they make a new basher in lets say 1/8th or 1/10 scale and get rid of the sliders and the grey injection molded plastic and the MOOSHY feeling behind the wheel, I AM IN. If not, I am out and getting something else for the grandkids. I have until christmas to make my decision.

I aint ****en because the sliders fail, never owned one. I dont like the design so MY perceived impression of quality is not there. I have snapped bucket loads of steel cvds before. I dont like the looks of the grey injection molded plastics, not saying they are any weeker, but again, my perception of this is poor quality. Dont see this from many except toy grade manufacturers.

I would love to put my perceptions aside and get a Gravedigger Pede for the grandson. I have got him shoes and shirts and hats with GDigger stuff and he loves the stuff. I just feel like someone is saying "You know better" in my head everytime I entertain the idea. Damn it.

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/30/2012 7:05 PM  1 votes
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Wondering why the fanboys are even typing anything into this post. It is clearly stated Traxxas haters opinion please. It's like a dude walking into the womens can.........and ****en because theres no dudes...........really? Leave your opinion as it realates to the topic and carry on....Maybe Traxxas is listening, maybe not. If they make a new basher in lets say 1/8th or 1/10 scale and get rid of the sliders and the grey injection molded plastic and the MOOSHY feeling behind the wheel, I AM IN. If not, I am out and getting something else for the grandkids. I have until christmas to make my decision.

I aint ****en because the sliders fail, never owned one. I dont like the design so MY perceived impression of quality is not there. I have snapped bucket loads of steel cvds before. I dont like the looks of the grey injection molded plastics, not saying they are any weeker, but again, my perception of this is poor quality. Dont see this from many except toy grade manufacturers.

I would love to put my perceptions aside and get a Gravedigger Pede for the grandson. I have got him shoes and shirts and hats with GDigger stuff and he loves the stuff. I just feel like someone is saying ''You know better'' in my head everytime I entertain the idea. Damn it.

TheKennyKiller- Not calling you out, you just seemed very defensive so I had to ask, Traxxas owner?


Yeah sorry, us fanboys should just leave you haters alone so you can hate to your hearts content. BTW laughing at ignorance is not being defensive.

Keep calm and hate on.

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 1:44 AM   
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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 3:03 AM  1 votes
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Wondering why the fanboys are even typing anything into this post. It is clearly stated Traxxas haters opinion please. It's like a dude walking into the womens can.........and ****en because theres no dudes...........really? Leave your opinion as it realates to the topic and carry on....Maybe Traxxas is listening, maybe not. If they make a new basher in lets say 1/8th or 1/10 scale and get rid of the sliders and the grey injection molded plastic and the MOOSHY feeling behind the wheel, I AM IN. If not, I am out and getting something else for the grandkids. I have until christmas to make my decision.

I aint ****en because the sliders fail, never owned one. I dont like the design so MY perceived impression of quality is not there. I have snapped bucket loads of steel cvds before. I dont like the looks of the grey injection molded plastics, not saying they are any weeker, but again, my perception of this is poor quality. Dont see this from many except toy grade manufacturers.

I would love to put my perceptions aside and get a Gravedigger Pede for the grandson. I have got him shoes and shirts and hats with GDigger stuff and he loves the stuff. I just feel like someone is saying ''You know better'' in my head everytime I entertain the idea. Damn it.

TheKennyKiller- Not calling you out, you just seemed very defensive so I had to ask, Traxxas owner?




and people wonder why the traxxas slash Ford F150 has a black chassis now... WOW that black dye really makes it stronger lol. im just going out on a limb here but im assuming u would never buy a older hpi blitz because of the colour of the plastic???
IT seems even rc cars cant excape racism
So from what u are saying u dont know anything about the slider shafts but still u have a non educated opinion on their durability? yes that makes perfect sence

Can u please explain in detail what u mean by "MOOSHY feeling behind the wheel"?

Yet again like I said befor this thread is full of oppinions... any one got a old torque wrench with the needle and dial? get a slider shaft and see how much torque it can take, then compare it to a dogbone the same length...

Whats a good benchmark to compare the sliders to?


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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 3:48 AM   
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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 3:55 AM   
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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 4:12 AM  1 votes
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bahahahah I just spat my drink everywhere... ohh now my laptop is all sticky

sure that was from your drink?



Anyways will say one thing about the gray traxxas chassis's they do take the RIT dye VERY easily. I've dyed a few parts from a few manufacturers (HPI, OFNA, and traxxas) and the traxxas chassis's soaked it in so it was a true black after a minute or 2. The other 2 brands still looked purple after 15 mins in the dye. Only reason I dyed it was cause every part was black on the RC I used the chassis's on(pede chassis's make excelent battery box's when modded ), and I needed to dye the other pieces anyways like the rims(only could find them in neon yellow) so I figured what the hell not like it will take any more work They were also the test to make sure I had the water hot enough

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 5:38 AM   
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Ive been reading a lot of talk on the Slash -Well Im here to tell you I have raced a 2 whel drive stock slash almost every week in competition and only broke a handfull of parts mostly a arms because I forgot to let up oncde in a while -they are the most toughtest cars out there and up keep is minimal-we have 25 to 40 every fry night at the track bashing and racing on the indoor off road track and see very little breakage -heck of a lor of body rubbing -so those that say the 2wd slash is junk just dont knoe or talking out of wrong side -they can have thwere expensive cars and pay mucho bucks for all the hop up stuff but the ol tried and true Slash racer will have more fun and bucks left over -NOT the 4wd as no where to race them in competition -and afore ya all start gabbin bout me ,I am 74 year old and been recing or around racing for bout all my life and my sone owns one of the finest indoor race tracks in the area MMR -so guess we do know a small tad of what we speak -Go buy a 2wd slash and come racing -Remember all stock -O we let you change radio ,receiver and steer servo and shock springs but NUTIN else - Now yer turn to jump in



Like I said before, everyones experience is different, some good, some bad.

Durablilty comes down to how you drive a rc, if you do lots of jumps (big ones) , thats going to place lots of strain on your car. I owned a HSP buggy once (I wanted to see if they are as crap as many said they were and for $150, not much to lose.) It never broke at all but then I started doing 1m high jumps (thats nothing compared to the 3m ones my mt4 takes all day long) and the shock towers bent, broke a bulkhead, stripped a spur and a pinion all in 4 runs! Now if I was to drive it normally then I doubt I will break anything. I am sure a slash will survive most 1/10 tracks easily but you can't compare them to 8 scale buggies and truggies, they are tanks and their are a few available for the price of a brushless slash.

On a side note, i've never broke anything with a brushed car no matter how stupid I drove it.

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 6:12 AM   
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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 9:35 AM   
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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 1:48 PM   
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im in to traxxas at the moment because im just messing about and not racing. so all the old stuff they keep pumping out suits me just fine as the parts are interchangeable between trucks.

one more point 99% of the forum users believe there is only 2 makes of ESC and motors. lol

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 2:11 PM   
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My first hobby grade RC after coming back into the hobby was a Bandit VXL. I paid $310 RTR. A 2WD 1/10 brushless buggy. It was cool at first, but after getting rid of that and searching for a new one, I realised there is much more out there, that is of better quality for a better price. If I were to EVER get a Traxxas RC again, it would have to be for the right price, and it would have to really impress me.
To answer the OP question...

-Traxxas needs new designs instead of basing a new RC off an old chassis and driveline. Get rid of those sliding driveshafts!!
-Lower your price! Your packaging is flashy, but I would rather pay for what's in the box.
-Come out with a new BL system. The one I had in the VXL didn't last long on a NiMH.

All in all, I bet if Traxxas lowered prices and upgraded parts for better durability, they would be competetive to racers and bashers more.


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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 2:33 PM   
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and this is the best traxxas haters thread i have even seen. as no one is really hating. but i can see who needs to get a room with there traxxas vehicle. and if one of you traxxas lovers has something good to say why not do a traxxas lovers thread. and i hope it stays constructive.

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 2:36 PM   
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do traxxas own RPM and Proline. because they sell so many parts that traxxas owners need. it would be a win win for traxxas.


nah they just give RPM tons of business
They make a few HPI parts too.
One of the guys from the ST board E-mailed them like 2 years ago asking if they would make arms for the HPI MT2 (they are notoriously weak), and the reply basically said to sum it up they only make parts to vehicles they know they will sell a lot.

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 2:56 PM   
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do traxxas own RPM and Proline. because they sell so many parts that traxxas owners need. it would be a win win for traxxas.


nah they just give RPM tons of business
They make a few HPI parts too.
One of the guys from the ST board E-mailed them like 2 years ago asking if they would make arms for the HPI MT2 (they are notoriously weak), and the reply basically said to sum it up they only make parts to vehicles they know they will sell a lot.

As for pro-line they are the same way

I think the reason RPM or Proline "only make parts to vehicles they know they will sell a lot" is more the fact that a lot of people own Traxxas vehicles and of those people a lot of them want to upgrade. People want to make their truck their own.

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 2:59 PM   
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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 4:08 PM   
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I think the reason RPM or Proline ''only make parts to vehicles they know they will sell a lot'' is more the fact that a lot of people own Traxxas vehicles and of those people a lot of them want to upgrade. People want to make their truck their own.


Not gonna argue that. Its kind of a 2 fold thing though. To get parts the truck needs to be popular, and the ruck has to have a calling for parts from how it sounded.
like in the MT2s case there was a calling for parts, just it wasn't popular enough for them to bother making the tools to produce the parts.
Now something like the Traxxas MAXX line there is both a need for the parts, and the calling (seriously Traxxas should make the RPM parts stock on that thing according to what I heard from a quite a few owners)
Then again Traxxas is also a popular target seeing if they make one part for one vehicle they can market it to many vehicles. Take the Slash 4X4 majority of the parts are identical on the Stampede 4X4, and now their new rally uses majority of the same parts so that is they now market parts for 3 different vehicles for the cost of designing, and making the mold for one part(actually just looked at RPM's page they have 2 pages of rally parts, all identical to the slash's).

Where most the HPI parts I see they make are the ones that are shared among vehicles(like the savage). Will be honest was kinda shocked to see axial parts, and durango parts being made.

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 4:31 PM   
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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 10/31/2012 6:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it all boils down to price. If their RTRs were cheaper, folks wouldn't expect as much out of them, and wouldn't gripe as much about the tires (yes, the Talons suck), sliders, gray plastic, etc - if it's cheaper, then expectations are lower.

One option would be for them to sell a kit version - I'll build it, don't include your electronics I don't want anyway, and then I won't have to pay for all that. That way I get a kit, and a cheaper option than the RTR.

An even easier option for them would be to sell a "roller" for cheaper than the RTR. Again, ditch the servo/esc/motor/radio and lower the price.


By all means, keep the RTR stuff to keep beginners in the hobby. But lowering prices, and/or alternate options (kit/roller) would be really nice.

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RE: Traxxas Critics opinion please - 11/3/2012 4:56 PM  1 votes
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