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Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/28/2012 2:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a very nice engine that has some varnish cooked onto the head, and wonder what the best way is to remove it without damaging the fins. A very long time ago, I remember helping a friend clean up one of his engines, and the stuff we used was really foul smelling. Any suggestions? Thanks

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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/28/2012 3:15 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/28/2012 3:16 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/28/2012 3:22 AM   
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It comes in a blue squeez spray and you may find it with the oven cleaners, or with the dish soap.  Not all stores handle it.  I think I found mine at the Ace Hardware store.

Wear rubber gloves, it will raise hell with your skin.  It may take a couple applications, but it does a very good job of getting the baked on castor off the engine.  Follow the instructions on the bottle.

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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/28/2012 3:25 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/28/2012 3:37 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/28/2012 6:47 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/28/2012 10:32 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/28/2012 10:43 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 1:24 AM   
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If you're not in a hurry the ol' crock pot and antifreeze might work better over night?



This method does work,   BUT,   if you leave it in the pot too long,   the  Ethylene Glycol will turn the  metal  grey and  any polished parts such as the head will  loose that shiny look.   


Dawn Power Cleaner will do the same thing if left on too long. 

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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 2:19 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 2:31 AM   
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Status: online 		Those ultra sonic cleaners work great. I got all of the burned castor tar off of a muffler with mine. I used some dishwashing liquid in the water.

Yeah, I also like that burned look too, OF.

I once needed to wash my hands after doing something on my truck. Couldn't think of anything good, so I used that gritty, powdered dishwasher soap. My hands were so dried out that I had to use hand lotion every half hour for weeks.

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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 2:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Get yourself a cheap crock pot.  Fill it with enough Antifreeze to cover your parts in the bottom.  Use the older conventional antifreeze NOT 50/50.  You may want to make a strainer because the stuff gets incredibly hot.  Put your parts (not rubber) into the mix and let it stew for a couple of days.  You will have brand new looking motor parts when done. I have done entire motor blocks this way.  The parts come out looking like they are brand new.

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I have a very nice engine that has some varnish cooked onto the head, and wonder what the best way is to remove it without damaging the fins. A very long time ago, I remember helping a friend clean up one of his engines, and the stuff we used was really foul smelling. Any suggestions? Thanks



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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 2:45 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 2:48 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 2:54 AM   
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If you're not in a hurry the ol' crock pot and antifreeze might work better over night?



This method does work,   BUT,   if you leave it in the pot too long,   the  Ethylene Glycol will turn the  metal  grey and  any polished parts such as the head will  loose that shiny look.   


Dawn Power Cleaner will do the same thing if left on too long. 

Frank




I can vouch for that statement. I've found that 4 to 6 hrs works for most varnish. If you have a small brass wire brush you can speed the process to just a couple of hours for most engines.



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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 3:53 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 4:55 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 5:27 AM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 5:32 AM   
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I have a very nice engine that has some varnish cooked onto the head, and wonder what the best way is to remove it without damaging the fins. A very long time ago, I remember helping a friend clean up one of his engines, and the stuff we used was really foul smelling. Any suggestions? Thanks

A friend of mine put me onto a product named TAL-STRIP. You can get it in a lot of auto parts stores although it is most used in the aviation industry. It is called a "coating remover". My friend used it to clean up a well used OS91 4-stroke and it looks brand new!

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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 8:34 AM   
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I have a beautiful gun metal gray OS 61 four stroke out in the garage. The owner had boiled it in automatic dishwasher soap.



+1 or    clothing detergent and hot water



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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 1:55 PM   
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Status: online 		I did an old os 90 in the antifreeze in the crock pot and it did turn it all gray, it was completely covered and I did not boil it so I think it depends on the engine. I have a little enya from the 70's I did and it's fine.
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You cannot boil the antifreeze and the parts must be completely submerged at all times or you will get graying.





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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 3:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		IMO, a slow cook in a crock pot with antifreeze is the best way as mentioned several times before. I also use Dawn Power Disolver but the antifreeze method does a better job. Not sure why some people experience graying of the finish (I don't) but at least you'll have a clean engine to work with. If you want to brighten it up at that point, I've heard a copper cleaner will work.


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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 3:19 PM   
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RE: Removing Cooked on Varnish from an engine - 10/29/2012 3:31 PM   
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ethylene glycol (One component of antifreeze) vapours can cause respiratory ailments.

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