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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/19/2012 10:28 PM   
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"and/or update the old electronics into smaller packages"

Right,  in addition  Id like to add something  about engine sound quality.Tamiya should   improve engine sound integrity - sound samples for subsequent  speed steps are very often too short  -  engine sounds  not quite natural - and  is not properly  fited  to tank speed  -  especially in old Tamiya tanks -like KT, Pershing , Panzer 

In newer production like Leopard 2A6  and KV-1 is much better ....

The sound signal should be also amplified more but  with smaller distorsion level - For example   setting potentiometer  in Leopard 2A6   to max position causes distorsions in sound output signal, setting to half -  that  sound is too silent (better but not quite good  is in KV-1) . This problem was discussed in another RCU  thread- additional external amplifier for Leopard 2A6 is needed to improve sound loudness.


 



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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 12:33 AM   
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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 10:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'd like to see the tank sitting on the tracks as showing off it "running" is not that important to me. Just disengage the motors to operate the rest of it's functions.


Also, just watched the original movie 'Sahara' and feel the M3 Lee should be considered too.














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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 1:29 PM   
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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 1:53 PM  1 votes
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 the JS 2 looks awesome, i want one too !!!

Guy's you don't listen ... if tamiya brings out a very scaled tank you probely couldn't pay it anyway !!!

Consider aeromate a up to scale Tiger I and Full Metal one , wich of you had bought one ? Right not many so stop complaining ... and be thankfull for what they bring out ... it cost millions to make the molds ... in 1/16 scale i say tamiya is as close to yhe scale for the price as it can be

If you want to change it be free , let us enjoy your scratchtalents if you can do better ... its just a bunch of kits here, i want this ... i want that ... its an economical crisis around he globe be thankfull they take risks with no real outcomes on the salesnumbers ... its a huge risk for them too

sorry for my boltness i think most of you agree with me though also ... please stop complaining ... its suppose to fun rc tanking www.rcuniverse.com='''' forum='''' js='''' fckeditor='''' editor='''' images='''' smiley='''' msn='''' alt='''' />



I totally agreed with karel47.
Tamiya invested tonnes of $$$ into new models, while others just sit comfortably and copied it.
Remember, it was Tamiya that started 1/16 RC tank with battling capabilities (and good sound)
From another angle, it won't be competition that may kill Tamiya, but the consumers. If that happens, consumers will be stuck with low quality ''TOYS'' and not model kits






This is what separates the men from the boys.

Men want authentic operating projects that perform while boys will be happy with a poor facsimile.


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Or the people who can afford tamiya tanks vs those who can't. 





Interesting thoughts, although outdated. When you look at the explosion of after market parts Tamiya has been overtaken in many areas. Third party sound systems are better, the new Metal Mato PZ111 seems like a good tank., and with the right electronics package will be a good offering. This old argument is just that, and old argument. Basically consumers want more then Tamiya is delivering, and they have found other avenues to enjoy this hobby. It has nothing to do with cost in most cases.

Tamiya is a good product, but please give this whole thing a rest. The hobby I hope has moved past it. Tank hobbyists have the ability to build things that will surpass Tamiya if they choose to with the parts that are available, and many do.

Yes the Tamiya is a good tank, but these guys who "can't afford" are responsible for building great tanks

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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 3:30 PM   
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First look at the chassis, KV1/2 owners, does this look like your chassis tub?

There's not nearly enough track sag across the return rollers......Anyway, the Japanese websites are predicting a February 2013 release.

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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 3:53 PM   
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Status: online 		 Regarding track sag, it's up on a block so when you have the suspension supporting the tanks weight there will be more sag. Also release just in time for my birthday, booya!


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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 3:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the first photo, the tank's sitting on a platform, that's why I made the comment about track sag. I suppose track tension's adjustable as with all Tammy tanks, but it might not run good if its that loose......

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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 4:40 PM   
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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 4:46 PM   
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Status: online 		 In my experience rear drive tanks don't run well on grass with loose tracks. Sadly it's one of those compromises we have to make for not running on scale grass!



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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 6:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		my pershing runs well on all terrain, i even bought metal tracks for it but hadn't change them yet, the standards are so well performing it would be a waste to exchange them, lateron when it turns to be the superpershing i use the metal ones to give extra weight for the long barreled superpershing 

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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 6:29 PM   
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There's not nearly enough track sag across the return rollers......Anyway, the Japanese websites are predicting a February 2013 release.


Is it metall lower hull ?  is it mean than IS-2 will be released with metal lower hull and suspension?


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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 6:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		 yes with plastic - metalbar tracks, they are quite good of quality the panther, pershing, sherman and kv tracks ... no need for direct exchange to metal ones ... 

a lot of better then the chinese craptracks they sell with their chinese tanks 

i think the JS 2 will also have descent quality plastic tracks


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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 6:47 PM   
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Status: online 		Pershing usually runs with quite tight tracks I think. Sadly my elefant doesnt, this is where it struggles! Some one (read not me) need to make some of those centre tooth guides that go on the sprokets like the tamiya leo and pershing have! 

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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 7:27 PM   
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Is that the same chassis pan or what?

Also looks like it comes with some PE screens, look to the left of the chassis.


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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 8:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is not the same lower hull. Look at the suspension arm spacings, they are proper for the IS from what these tired old eyes can see from the photo. Now, enough of this squeaking about a model none of us has even had in our hot little hands yet. I have it from a usually reliable source, who HAS had it in his hands, that all appears to be correct. I have placed my advance order for one regardless, although I am still quite distressed that apparently there are no casting number on the track links or the turret rear, let alone the other major castings.

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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/20/2012 9:34 PM   
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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/21/2012 9:55 AM   
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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/21/2012 3:02 PM   
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C'mon KV builders...
Is that the same chassis pan or what?

Also looks like it comes with some PE screens, look to the left of the chassis.




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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/21/2012 4:24 PM   
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 yes with plastic - metalbar tracks, they are quite good of quality the panther, pershing, sherman and kv tracks ... no need for direct exchange to metal ones ... 

a lot of better then the chinese craptracks they sell with their chinese tanks 

i think the JS 2 will also have descent quality plastic tracks




Thanks for reply - You are right,  Im also using plastic tracks in my Tamiya KT 
So now Im  waiting for official demo of IS-2 engine sound .....


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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/21/2012 4:34 PM   
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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/21/2012 4:44 PM   
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I will start taking pre-orders as soon as I am informed of the price - our website will have all the info
once we know it.   I will need a $100 deposit on all pre-orders ( this deposit is non-refundable if kit is not purchased)!
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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/21/2012 10:32 PM   
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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/22/2012 1:50 AM   
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RE: 1/16 R/C Russian Heavy Tank JS-2 Model 1944 ChKZ Fu... - 11/22/2012 2:35 AM   
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