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Lest we forget - 11/10/2012 10:14 PM   
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Lest we forget

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.

For all the fallen Cameraden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEIME4EoaVM
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RE: Lest we forget - 11/10/2012 10:35 PM   
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Nicht vergessen.

In whatever Army they served.... for whatever reaosn they fought. Every country should honor their Veterans.

PS I had to do some digging but here are a few pix from my Dad's photo album he made in Germany and France during the war. Luckily he was the only son of an only son, (as am I) and he went to Europe during the Korean War. These are from 1952 & 53. Dad died 29 years ago. I was 23 and I miss him every damned day!

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/10/2012 11:05 PM   
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 Amen.

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 12:16 AM   
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Amen, 

To the fallen of all sides. They fought with valor, at the bidding of politicians.

May they rest in peace! 


JUST A COMMON SOLDIER
(A Soldier Died Today)
by A. Lawrence Vaincourt

He was getting  old and paunchy and his hair was falling fast,
And he sat around the Legion, telling stories of the past.
Of a war that he had fought in and the deeds that he had done,
In his exploits with his buddies; they were heroes, every one.

And tho' sometimes, to his neighbors, his tales became a joke,
All his Legion buddies listened, for they knew whereof he spoke.
But we'll hear his tales no longer for old Bill has passed away,
And the world's a little poorer, for a soldier died today.

He will not be mourned by many, just his children and his wife,
For he lived an ordinary and quite uneventful life.
Held a job and raised a family, quietly going his own way,
And the world won't note his passing, though a soldier died today.

When politicians leave this earth, their bodies lie in state,
While thousands note their passing and proclaim that they were great.
Papers tell their whole life stories, from the time that they were young,
But the passing of a soldier goes unnoticed and unsung.

Is the greatest contribution to the welfare of our land
A guy who breaks his promises and cons his fellow man?
Or the ordinary fellow who, in times of war and strife,
Goes off to serve his Country and offers up his life?

A politician's stipend and the style in which he lives
Are sometimes disproportionate to the service that he gives.
While the ordinary soldier, who offered up his all,
Is paid off with a medal and perhaps, a pension small.

It's so easy to forget them for it was so long ago,
That the old Bills of our Country went to battle, but we know
It was not the politicians, with their compromise and ploys,
Who won for us the freedom that our Country now enjoys.

Should you find yourself in danger, with your enemies at hand,
Would you want a politician with his ever-shifting stand?
Or would you prefer a soldier, who has sworn to defend
His home, his kin and Country and would fight until the end?

He was just a common soldier and his ranks are growing thin,
But his presence should remind us we may need his like again.
For when countries are in conflict, then we find the soldier's part
Is to clean up all the troubles that the politicians start.

If we cannot do him honor while he's here to hear the praise,
Then at least let's give him homage at the ending of his days.
Perhaps just a simple headline in a paper that would say,
Our Country is in mourning, for a soldier died today.




Love You Dad!

Stewart Jnr


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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 3:28 AM   
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Amen.

I am missing my Dad. RAF veteran that we lost a few years ago.

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 3:46 AM   
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Me too, Dan. I lost him in 2000. I miss him every day.  Theya re all owed a debt we cannot repay.

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 7:28 AM   
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Pity we don't honor our veterans like they honor theirs here.

This Veterans Day was originally to honor the dead from the Great War, the War to End All Wars. The eleventh minute of the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month the guns fell silent on the Western Front. Right. We're still fighting.

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 7:31 AM   
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And some of us never come home, one way or the other. God loves all soldiers and hates all war.

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 1:37 PM   
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I too miss my Dad who served WW2. He served with Shermans bravely. I think of him everyday and his comrads. RIP Dad. You did well in service of our country.

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 2:05 PM   
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Being an only child, I miss my parents whether Veteran's Day or not. I think about my dad and what he must have seen in WWII. He never talked much about it, but what he did say hints at the horrible things he saw and had to go through. I still have his old tin mug with the clip on the back side where he engraved every place he went while over there. I remember him saying we took the Germans through the concentration camps and rubbed their noses in it. While it may not be fair and it may be sad, he came back home with a hatred for German people. While its not fair to the good ones, and there were many who didn't support hitler, I guess its understandable after what he had to go through.

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 2:09 PM   
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I kmow what you guys mean.

Lost my Dad, earlier than some, in 1986.

He was RCNVR

The RCNVR became the backbone of the Canadian Navy, recruiting officers and sailors for the Navy. The usefulness of the RCNVR was demonstrated in 1939, at the onset of the Second World War, when the RCNVR was used to recruit and build the navy. By the end of the war, Canada had the third largest navy in the world, with a complement of nearly 100,000. Most of these men and women were members of the RCNVR.

Funny how your prespective changes

When I was 10, from a kid's viewpoint in the early 1960's, it seemd WWII was fought by 40 year old men.

I just turned 60, I still have Dad's B&W pictures from 1943 - 45, now its like; Man that's young, I wouldn't let a "kid"like  that age drive my SUV around the block.  But most were quite young, and had to grow up too fast.


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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 2:54 PM   
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To my late Dad, wounded at Pearl Harbor while on deck shooting with a .30 cal. carbine at attacking Japanese dive bombers.  To my Brother, who came back from Viet Nam with issues that eventually caused him to take his own life, and to my Son who was injured while serving in Desert Storm, I honor you and all those that have served our Country.  I have been the lucky one that for some reason drew a late lottery number in 1964 and did  not serve in the military.  I have been blessed to have a military family.  I hold in the highest esteem, those that have and are serving.  God Bless you. 

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 3:10 PM   
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Thanks dad for your servicing WW2 as a infantryman serving in France and ending up in Germany. My dad never opened up too much until late in his life and I am sorry I never asked to learn more, but I know hewas inaudible number of battles anyways fighting with squad landline on the line, he was promoted to sergeant and served at the nazi trials protecting the judges.miss you dad

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 3:15 PM   
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walk outside take a big breath of freedom then thank a vet with out them we would be speeking something other than english so thank the old and the new even the ones to come for they give it all for us AMEM

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 3:44 PM   
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Im very fortunate to still have my dad...hes 88 now and served in the 29th Infantry at D-Day. He went all the way to Colongne. Thanks to all who serve now and served in the past. You are all the greatest.


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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 6:36 PM   
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For my Father, 1930 -1995 Korea, Uncle John 1929-1992 WWII, and Uncle Art 1931 -2005 Colonel. US Army ret., I miss all of you terribly. To all vets past and present Thank You

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 8:37 PM   
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(...)   This Veterans Day was originally to honor the dead from the Great War, the War to End All Wars. .....


Of course  there was Great War for them but only since 1941 . They dont remember that in fact  WWII begun in 1939 -  when they were also  one of  the agressors and occupants. 1.09. 1939  Germans invided one part Poland , then 17.09.1939 Soviets invided the second one (according to Ribentrop-Molotov pact).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Non-Aggression_between_Germany_and_the_Soviet_Union

30.11.1939 Soviets try to invided Finland.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Since 1922 (Rapallo)  till 1941 Germans and Soviets was  constantly  cooperating very close. So their  "divorce" begun only in 1941. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Rapallo_(1922)

As its seen  on attached  photo,  many of them  still using red flag (with hammer and sickle) - symbol of comunistic  totalitarism  on the official celebrations. The symbols of  the second - nazi (nazi=national sozialismus)  - totalitarism in Germany are forbiden. 




 

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 8:47 PM   
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I know what you guys mean.

Lost my Dad, earlier than some, in 1986.

Glen


I feel your pain Glen. My dad is gone almost 30 years now. He was proud to have served and did enjoy the camaraderie and he loved being in Germany. Our family came from Saarbrucken. He really enjoyed the countryside and meeting the locals. His German was very rusty but he go along fine. He always had a bag of candy and chocolates for any kids they met. He loved to drive and loved snow. We were born in NY so drivng in the snow is a required skill. He loved to drive in the white stuff as do I.

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RE: Lest we forget - 11/11/2012 9:41 PM   
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Our veterans here march with the flag they fought under. The politics of the flag mean nothing to the veterans, whether they are marching under the red flag, the Russian Imperial Eagle, the white/blue/red, or the blue/yellow Ukrainian flag. The veterans are honored, not the political ideology of the flag, and we here, just as I did in USA and Germany, honor the VETERANS, not anything political. The attached photos are of the German Military Cemetery on the Yalta Road south of the Yalta Ring in the foothills of the south mountains above the coast. There's over 10.000 of them there, and more are buried there every year as they are found, with full military honors, as are more Russian boys buried with honors in the Old Post Road Cemetery overlooking Inkerman and at St. Nikolas as they are found. Eight months ago we put over 300 lads in the Old Post Road Cemetery. 4 years ago we put another 5 Russian lads at St. Nikolas....from the 1855 Krimea War.

My father died 8 years ago. He was E8, 101 Airborne, D Day, Market Garden, and Bastogne. Silver, two Bronze, and the Purple. When Ye'lean'chka and I go to the Veterans Day parades, I salute him....and all the other veterans, both with us and gone...... matters not who they fought for.

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