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best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 4:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Do any of you now what the best 4 channel trainer is from horizon hobby, im thinking of the P-47 thunderbolt and the T28, what is the best option plz reply!!!

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 4:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Neither. Warbirds aren't designed to be self righting or particularly slow. Read the sticky entitled "trainers- what's available" to see what's out there. If you're looking for a park flyer, the Super Cub is good, as is the e-flite apprentice. There's not anything cheaper that's just as good, and you'll need a nice big open space to fly any plane in. If you're able, working one day with an instructor will save you 6 months of trial and error.

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 5:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		What you need is a good trainer with a high wing.    If you want to go  Nitro (glow)  then your best bet is:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCNSW&P=0

The box has everything you need to fly  except   fuel and a  glow plug lighter. 

If you want to go electric: 

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LW2207&P=7

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 5:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		 Sorry, i didnt mention, that i had all ready masterd the hobbyzone super cub dsm. 

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 7:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was also thinking of just getting a firebird stratos, just to play around with and especially something I know what im doing with!!

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 1:06 PM   
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Status: online 		I wouldn't spend the money on the Stratos as you will become bored quickly with that one too. If you want to stay electric I would get the Apprentice . It's a larger plane, still a high wing but is more agile and is something you can practice your 4 channel flying, not get into serious trouble  but not get bored with it down the road.  After you do well on that then you can move to a T-28.


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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 3:09 PM   
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=1288
My Brother Mike, (rest his soul) did the review on that one, I've flown it several times in both High and Low Wing configurations...
that one gets my vote
the Sensei is another good one also!
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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 4:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I really miss Mike!! I missed his review on this switch plane and from what I see it would be a great one to have. My grandson is still flying the super cub but I think a switch is something that should go under the tree this year. I'm building him a copy of my Aeroworks Extra 260 but it's still too much plane for him right now, the switch looks like something he should have first.
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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 5:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Flyzone Sensei is another good 4 channel highwing trainer.

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 9:33 PM   
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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 9:36 PM   
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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 10:01 PM   
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Status: online 		Your desire in planes is bigger than your ability by the sounds of it. Had a club member go through that the hard way. Wanted to jump right into warbirds from a high wing trainer instead of taking the proper next steps in planes (advanced high wing trainer, low/mid-wing trainer). Even with training, he planted almost every warbird he had until the light bulb was finally lit. Now he is flying a stick and his skills are getting better and better and he will be ready for a warbird next year.
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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 10:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I live in Australia so I don't have a fly zone retailer near me.

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 10:23 PM   
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Status: online 		Ok, here's the deal. The people above who are giving you advice are doing so only to help you, not to put you down or try to hold you back. 

Here is your current situation. Yes, you have learned to fly on a 3 channel radio. But you have not flown using a plane that has ailerons. While the basics of flight remain the same, the addition of ailerons is going to be something that could very well wind up destroying your plane. The Champ that you have flown had self recovery characteristics, meaning you let go of the stick and the plane pretty much is going to level the wings on it's own. This is a result of the dihedral built into the wing. However, most if not all, of the planes you want to fly have no self-recovery built into them. Which means that if you are not able to bring the wings back to level flight the plane is going to crash. Plain and simple. This isn't an easy step you are wanting to make. It is more like going from crawling to running a sprint race. 

What you need to do is what has already been suggested above. Get a basic 4 channel trainer and learn to fly a setup with ailerons on it. You will need to practice returning the plane to level flight with the ailerons in order to maintain your flight. Until you can do this with ease on a trainer you aren't ready to step up to any of the advanced planes you want to fly. 

As I said, I'm not trying to hold you back. Rather I'm trying to help you. All pilots, regardless of flying RC or full scale, must make these training steps as they learn to fly. Full scale fighter pilots don't start out learning on the fighter jets they eventually fly. They start on very simple easy to fly trainers. There is a reason why they do this, and it's the same reason you need to take these steps as you progress up in the planes you want to fly. 

Hope this helps

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 10:26 PM   
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I live in Australia so I don't have a fly zone retailer near me.


Of the planes you've expressed interest in, jetrc, a T-28 Trojan would be the best alternative. The full scale T-28 Trojan is a low wing trainer aircraft, and most of the models I've seen based on this design are nice flying aircraft without any bad flying characteristics.

Compared to your Super Cub, a T-28 Trojan of similar size will be a faster, twitchier aircraft that will need a bit more room for flying and landing. If you're really flying your Super Cub well, however, you can probably make the jump.

The advice you were given previously, look at the Apprentice 15e or the Alpha 450 before jumping to a war bird, was good advice. New pilots often skip good advice and buy what they like. If you choose to do that, then the T-28 Trojan is a good pick from among the designs you named.

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 11/30/2012 11:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		The T28 is an advance trainer as far as the USN and USAF are concerned. ENJOY !!! RED

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 12/1/2012 12:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Take a look at the Alpha 40. Flie's great.........

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/alpha-40-dsm2-rtf-HAN4400

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/alpha-40-arf-trainer-HAN2460


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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 12/1/2012 12:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Awesome looking plane, does this come with the Dx5?

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 12/1/2012 12:49 AM   
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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 12/1/2012 2:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would reccomend the Parkzone T28. Saw one fly and I was impressed with its' stability.

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 12/1/2012 5:00 AM   
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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 12/1/2012 5:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		T-28 hands down. After you master the t-28, you could go to the habu 2.

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 12/1/2012 6:58 AM   
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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 12/1/2012 12:52 PM   
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Can you convert the alpha 40 to electric power?


Almost everything can be converted to electric. How hard it is depends on how easily a hatch can be created, and whether or not venting can be cut into the places that need venting.

There is a replacement fuselage sold by Horizon that has a hatch. Their picture of that fuselage isn't good enough or large enough to show where the hatch is or how good a hatch it is, but you gotta assume it's there for electric power. Unfortunately, the picture shows no hatch lines at all, and doesn't show any additional holes for venting. Perhaps they put the hatch in the bottom of the fuselage and maybe a vent there too. http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/fuselage-w-hatch-alpha-40-arf-HAN246001

You won't need a lot of venting. But you will need a couple of holes in the firewall that let air come straight in on the battery and ESC. A hole twice the area of the inlet holes is needed for exhaust and is easily cut in the fuselage aft of the wing, top or bottom. But you will need access to the area right behind the firewall for swapping a relatively large battery in and out. You can use the wing as a hatch, but that depends on your patience and how easy it'd be to cut holes to allow that battery to ride where it needs to be for the CG.

The replacement fuse might or might not provide those things. They're necessary for your ESC to live long and prosper. They would take an experienced modeler an evening to do.

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RE: best 4 channel trainer - 12/1/2012 2:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		As explained by da rock, the answer is yes. If I have pushed the right button's, below is what is needed for the conversion.

That work . Go to Horizon click on the ARF model then, Parts & Accessories, then Complition kit 2.


http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/alpha-40-arf-trainer-HAN2460


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