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Small beginner heli suggestions - 12/5/2012 2:05 AM   
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I want to try helicopters again. Years ago I tried, but went in over my head due to bad advice from my local shop. I bought a Heli Max 400 and could never fly it and spent a more money than I had planned. I got frustrated after a while and sold it. I've always wanted to try again, but didn't want to waste money. Now I'm looking at a smaller heli to try out. Something for a beginner that is RTF. It can be FP or CP. I believe FP is easier to fly. All suggestions are welcome, but I am looking to spend $150 or less to start. I do have a good amount of experience with cars, but not with helis.Thanks

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RE: Small beginner heli suggestions - 12/5/2012 9:23 PM   
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Buying a heli to learn on for less than $150 is not the best Idea. You will most likely need to keep replacing parts. The best thing to do is get the Phoenix flight simulator from Horizon Hobby. It is less than $200 and you can learn how to fly ,then improve your skills before flying the real thing with out paying a penny more. It is the most realistic flight simulator, in my opinion, and I would recommend getting it with a blade msr or 120 if you want a little real life hover training with the sim.

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RE: Small beginner heli suggestions - 12/5/2012 11:59 PM   
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Buying a heli to learn on for less than $150 is not the best Idea. You will most likely need to keep replacing parts. The best thing to do is get the Phoenix flight simulator from Horizon Hobby. It is less than $200 and you can learn how to fly ,then improve your skills before flying the real thing with out paying a penny more. It is the most realistic flight simulator, in my opinion, and I would recommend getting it with a blade msr or 120 if you want a little real life hover training with the sim.


Thanks, but I've seen a couple for under $150. Like the Blade mcx2 for $119. It's just to learn the basics and hopefully move up later. I will take a look at the simulators also.


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RE: Small beginner heli suggestions - 12/6/2012 1:00 AM   
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A cx heli is OK for learning the controls, but it doesn't pepare you very much for a single rotor heli. A cx heli hovers itself, but a single rotor heli has to be forced to hover, and hovering skills are probably the most important thing. Unfortunately this hobby isn't cheap to start into, and can get expensive fast, with a simulator you can practice many orientations that would probably cause many crashes. The Blade msr, however, is a very durable single rotor heli.

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RE: Small beginner heli suggestions - 12/6/2012 1:12 AM   
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The msr is ~$130, the msr 120 is ~$160, and the simulator is only $130 if you have a spektrum air transmitter already. Another tip is to not barely creep the heli off the ground afraid of crashing it, crashed are going to happen. Just take it right up to at least 2-3ft to avoid terbulence off the ground.

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RE: Small beginner heli suggestions - 12/6/2012 6:49 PM   
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If you're serious about learning and would like to be flying 6ch helis eventually, start with either Phoenix or Realflight and an mCPx or Nano CPx. It cannot be stressed near enough that a simulator is far and away the single most valuable purchase you can make flying helicopters. Anybody that insists on learning without a simulator is straight up crippling themselves.

mCX and mSR are fine for fooling around indoors and putting around the back yard, if you don't want to take the hobby any further than that you'll be happy with either one of those. The mCX by all accounts flies itself, your control inputs do nothing more than slightly disrupt its inherent stability so it can creep around, you won't be able to fly it in even the slightest bit of wind. The mSR is a lot more maneuverable and will require minor corrections to maintain a hover, it can get going pretty fast. It's difficult to maintain forward flight in a small space with it due to it having very weird handling quirks when turning, however.

Don't buy one of them expecting to pick up transferable experience or as a stepping stone in the 6ch learning process, they tend to teach bad habits and allow you to rely on crutches that don't exist with a 6ch. The only thing that will teach you how to fly 6ch helis is stick time on a sim or a real model.

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RE: Small beginner heli suggestions - 12/7/2012 8:01 PM   
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If you're serious about learning and would like to be flying 6ch helis eventually, start with either Phoenix or Realflight and an mCPx or Nano CPx. It cannot be stressed near enough that a simulator is far and away the single most valuable purchase you can make flying helicopters. Anybody that insists on learning without a simulator is straight up crippling themselves.

mCX and mSR are fine for fooling around indoors and putting around the back yard, if you don't want to take the hobby any further than that you'll be happy with either one of those. The mCX by all accounts flies itself, your control inputs do nothing more than slightly disrupt its inherent stability so it can creep around, you won't be able to fly it in even the slightest bit of wind. The mSR is a lot more maneuverable and will require minor corrections to maintain a hover, it can get going pretty fast. It's difficult to maintain forward flight in a small space with it due to it having very weird handling quirks when turning, however.

Don't buy one of them expecting to pick up transferable experience or as a stepping stone in the 6ch learning process, they tend to teach bad habits and allow you to rely on crutches that don't exist with a 6ch. The only thing that will teach you how to fly 6ch helis is stick time on a sim or a real model.

Thanks for the help, appreciate it.

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