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Is this normal behavior? - 12/27/2012 3:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Everyone, First Post!!

Ok, so heres my story... I just got a helicopter for the holidays and after doing my research I decided on a v911 4 chanel fp. ( http://www.amazon.com/Helizone-Lightning-Channel-Control-Helicopter/dp/B008UGD3HS). This is my first helicopter and I am trying to learn to fly it. The problem I am having is that it is pretty un-stable. When I pictured flying this t thought if I didnt mess with any trimm and increased the speed of the rotor, the helicopter should go straight up in the air and be able to hover, or at least close to it.
I am having trouble just getting the helicopter off the ground. As soon as i increase the speed the helicopter takes of left or right without me touching anything but the throttle. Adjusting trim one way or another works a little but it still does not want to just take off straight up in the air.
When I have the transmitter set to factory normal (nothing adjusted), and start to wind the helicopter up slowly, before the helicopter lifts from the ground it takes off left and either runs into something or just falls on its side.

What I am wondering is if this is normal behavior and I just need to practice or if I have a helicopter that needs to be replaced. Since I have no expierence I just want to make sure I am not wasting my time fighting with a helicopter that may be a lemon.

Thanks in advance for the help!

-Logan

*Edit - Just for more info, I am flying this bird inside, not outside for the time being.



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RE: Is this normal behavior? - 12/27/2012 12:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Got a blade nana cpx from Santa, I have absolutely "o" experience with helis. Been trying to mastyer the hover and I almost had it yesterday, I actually got the feel for it, for about 3 seconds before it fliped over and crashed for about the 150th time. All I can say is this thing is very durable, I've been beating it up against the walls, table , ceiling, ect for three days, hope to get the hang of it soon before it breaks.
Oh yea about your problem, thats exactly how mine reacts, I thought too maybe something was wrong but I found that if I apply throttle and get it off the ground at the same time be on the left and right stick to gain control, hard to explain being that I havent been able to hover the thing yet but almost there, anyhow  the sooner you get  it off the ground and into the air the better, even if it's a crash, I think.


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RE: Is this normal behavior? - 12/28/2012 1:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		The take off to the left is normal due to blade/engine torque.  I'm also a relative biginner and it has taken me quite a while to hover under control, still working on nose in hover.  I've found it best to increase the throttle to where the heli shows a lean to the left and then compensate with the right stick while increasing the speed till the heli lifts off.  Good luck.

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RE: Is this normal behavior? - 12/30/2012 10:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very normal behavior... I, too, was fustrated in the beginning. while using throttle up, as heli just gets off the ground, you WILL probably have to use the right stick. Just "bump" the stick, otherwise heli goes all over the place. USE THE BUMP METHOD, for ALL inputs, til your mind/ fingers can READ what's going on. Also I found that if you also use the "PINCH" method on the sticks, you will almost naturally bump the sticks. TRY not to get discouraged (easier said than done). Once you get it, it just "clicks". Happy & safe flying...Ken


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RE: Is this normal behavior? - 12/30/2012 11:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, that is normal behavior!  You have to fly these little helis 100% of the time.  Keep practicing.  It'll be tough at first, even a few second hover isn't easy.  But eventually you'll learn the inputs you need to counteract what the heli is doing.

A set of training gear would help you too.  Even a couple of soda straws in an "X" pattern attached the landing skids can keep it from tipping over as you learn to hover.

Good luck!

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RE: Is this normal behavior? - 12/31/2012 4:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		 Thanks for all the posts, they were very helpful!!

So its been almost a week and you were all correct! I can now take off hover and fly the helicopter pretty decently indoors now!
I was starting to lose hope before posting because i felt I was wasting my time trying to fly a broken heli, but after reading the responses I realized i just needed to practice! This is a ton of fun and I cant wait until I am good enough to start getting fancy with my flying.

Thanks again everyone, good luck flying!


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RE: Is this normal behavior? - 12/31/2012 4:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		fatcaz...... glad to hear all is well. some days i feel i can fly mine well, & other days i don't. the days i don't, i just work on hover drills, etc.


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RE: Is this normal behavior? - 1/9/2013 4:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		When learning to hover, be mindful of ground effect. The closer you are to the ground the more difficult it will be to hover the heli. Once it gets 5-10 feet up, it usually becomes much more trivial to hover as external forces (the rotor wash against the ground) aren't countering your efforts to keep things straight and level.

It's scarier to hover higher but IMO you end up with less crashes and less discouragement do to erratic behavior. My father-in-law has a Trex 450 and only hovers about 2 feet off the ground (he has never gotten past it) and is constantly crashing it.

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