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Noob to electric helis - 12/28/2012 2:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, I've been out of the hobby for a few years. But I have extensive nitro airplane and helicopter experience flying mainly scale aircraft. After a 4 year hiatus from rc my wife bought a micro electric helicopter for me from Brookstone. I know this is not a hobby store quality helicopter but I've been enjoying it immensely and it's rekindled a fire in me for MORE! When I flew nitro helicopters they were Raptor .30 and .60s. I'm looking for something I can fly in my shop (40x25 warehouse with 18' ceilings) for hover work or outside. I'm interested in electric for the lack of mess and smoke. My style is scale rc flying only, I have no interest in 3D.

I consider myself a noob because I have been away long enough that I'm out of the loop on the latest and greatest. I want stability and reliability. Any suggestions on where to start? I sold everything when I got out of it last time so I'm starting from scratch.

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/28/2012 4:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Take a look at this one, I haven't flown it, but I have owned several other Blade heli's. The quality, parts availabiltiy, and customer service is tops.

secure.hobbyzone.com/BLH1700.html





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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/28/2012 2:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		As you should know from previous experience start with a good, proven base and go from there. You should also know bigger flies better. In the size warehouse you can easily fly a 500 size helo decked out in scale garb. I suggest getting an Align 500 and then finding the right dress for it to suit (no pun intended) your wants. Don't be tempted to get a clone or knock off. You may save a few bucks in the beginning but in the end a genuine Align will save you money, time, and aggravation.

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/28/2012 5:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had a Blade CP when they came out years ago, I'm sure the newer ones are much better. I watched several videos of the BLH1700 and it's an interesting looking helicopter...especially for the money. I know it comes with the remote controller, but would I be better getting a controller that I can use with multiple airplanes/helicopters?

I was looking at Align. Do they make BNF helicopters or are they all kits? If I have to piece it together myself I'll really be in the dark as I'm completely new to electric. But I like the idea of bigger for the stability and ability to fly in wind. What kind of gyros do people use these days? I always had GY401s or maybe an 801? Heck, I can't remember now. Anyway, my helicopters always had top end components even though I only fly scale maneuvers and I never regretted having the better components.

Thanks for the info!

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/28/2012 6:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Only kits but they come with everything in the box you need except receiver and battery. That's the nice thing, they are nice matched sets with right size servos, gyros, and/ or flybarless systems. Your hardest thing will be figuring out the new swash types as most are 120deg with all three servos doing pitch, roll, and collective.

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/28/2012 7:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		So something http://www.alignrcusa.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=2193this?

Or http://www.alignrcusa.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=2542this?

What's the difference? Is this overkill? Is there such a thing as overkill ?

Is the barless head alot more stable than the fly bar heads? I do like the clean look of the bar-less head.

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/28/2012 11:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I was in your shoes, and I know I'm not, I'd shop for an older flybar'ed version cheap, still a new unoped genuine Align kit but the old version. They should be out there at good prices. Here is one example but there's all sorts of deals out there.

These people have a sale on, 13% off all items over $100..

http://www.heliproz.com/KX017014-T-Rex-500E-Super-Combo/productinfo/KX017014/

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/29/2012 2:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Which is better, barred or non-barred head? All my nitro helis had fly bars and they were rock solid, but if the bar-less heads are even more stable...

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/29/2012 3:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Also, I used Futaba radios with my previous airplanes and helicopters...I think it was an airplane radio that I flew helis with. Is that mode one or two? Whats the difference? I forgot a lot of the little things....

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/29/2012 3:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is this guy just not that smooth or are these things twitchy and unstable? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZq1E-zl_II

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/29/2012 2:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bar-less is better all around. In the US we use mostly mode 2, throttle and rudder on the left. Twitchy depends on the persons set up and his thumbs. Just because the vide says it's a Trex don't be sure. Many buy a clone and throw a few Align parts on them and call them Align... This helo has white paddles which are not original, they may be 3D paddles and cause some of the twitchiness.

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/29/2012 2:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok then, mode 2 is what I've always flown. I'm looking at radio setups too now. I was thinking about my past radios, I know I used futaba with my last helicopter...but I seem to recall that the logic in the programming was not as intuitive as my previous JR radios. I'm sure this is a Chevy vs. Ford opinion.

About batteries, what kind of flight times are expected and how long does it take to charge the batteries? Do most people just have multiple batteries so they don't have to wait between flights?

I appreciate all of the input, I'll be narrowing things down here very soon.

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/29/2012 3:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Flight time depends on the weight of the helo, flying style, and battery size. Yes we typically charge and bring sufficient batterys. Batterys are cheap now so we can have a bunch.

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/29/2012 3:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I used to bring a quick charger with me to the flying field. But I'll probably do most of my flying at the shop or at home.

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/29/2012 6:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have flown planes for years. I own five helis ( a raptor of each size). The heli that gets the most flight time and use is a Blade MCPX2. It was recommended to me by a guy in my club and i have thanked him many, many times. I had to buy a Spectrum Transmitter because all my other stuff is Futaba but it was still worth it. It is BNF. You can download the set ups for the DX6 and 8. The key is it is tolerance of crashes and very stable. I had never been comfortable with nose in or circles. On the first MCPX2 flight I did a circle. I fly it a foot off the ground at high speed in a circuit around my front yard. I can do hammer head turns and not worry about the trees. A crash rarely breaks anything. If it does any damage it basically causes the main gear to slip. You pops it off, realign it, and pop it back on. No screws just a good light and good vision. If you want to fly in limited space, improve a lot, and gets lots of flight time, Blade MCPX2. I now have more than 200 flights on mine in my front yard. When I go back to the raptor, I need to go to a real RF field and I am less confident because crashing will take a VISA card and rebuild time, on the MCPX2, a crash is nothing.

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 12/29/2012 7:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I still want a bigger heli, but I like what I've seen of that Blade on Youtube. Looks like alot of fun! It's cheap to buy too. I need to get a radio first, probably this coming week.

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RE: Noob to electric helis - 1/3/2013 4:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm pretty much set on a radio, the Spektrum DX8 DSMX. It seems like everyone has the same prices on it. $349 for transmitter only.

I've also been looking at the Blade 300X and the 450X. From what I've seen they seem to be very inexpensive to repair...but does that mean they're made of a bunch of cheap parts? The fact that they're both BNF and have the "beast" receiver setup seems to be a big plus to me.

Thoughts and input on these helis?

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