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Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 12/31/2012 3:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I want to buy the following batteries which come with 5.5 mm bullets already on them.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8588__ZIPPY_Flightmax_5000mAh_4S1P_30C_.html

They need to be combined in series so I'm using the following Deans series adapter

http://www.f3aunlimited.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=312

so the dilemna is to figure out how bridge the connector gap.

If I get the following adapter will that work? Are the T connectors the same thing as Deans?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__24416__5_5mm_Bullet_Connector_to_T_Connector_Battery_Adapter_2pcs_bag_.html

Are those 5.5 connectors really meant to be installed directly batteries and pulled on and off constantly as is or is there a plastic case you area really supposed to insert into first?

Or does nobody do that and they just cut off the bullets and solder on Deans females or whatever else they really want to use? Just trying to cut down on the solder work myself...

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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 12/31/2012 3:28 PM   
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Status: online 		HK seems to change battery connectors like the weather changes. When you gather enough electrics you will want to standardize on a connector.
 I cut-off any connector that isn't a Deans on batteries I get and solder on a Deans connector. With all of the different connectors I have cut off I make my own adapters to Deans and keep them in my flight box and on the bench in case anyone has to mate different ESC's plugs or different battery connectors.
The XT plugs and connectors are "Deans Style" but are not of the same quality. I use them but only on medium and small electrics. Anything large pulling a lot of current gets a genuine Deans.
When you start installing all those adapters you quickly run out of room in some planes so I would recommend to cut-off the bullets and install some XT's or Deans.


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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 12/31/2012 3:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		As a follow up, what is a W. S. Dean's vs Deans? Tower prefaces all of their Dean's plugs with a W.S. Is that yet another knock off deans plug or a slightly different size plug? I wonder about the size as their tech notes say it's a 'compact-size' yet I don't think it is a micro deans at all.

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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 12/31/2012 5:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe W. S. Deans Company is just the name of the maker of genuine Deans plugs.

I also have standardized my electrics to Deans, and I also avoid the copies as a flying buddy had issues with Chineese knock offs he had tried.

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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 12/31/2012 5:16 PM   
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Status: online 		I have heard some of them are so soft they melt under any almost any heat, Have to watch where you get them anymore. . The ones I got were purchased years ago and are really very good...not like Deans, but they don't melt when soldering them !  Plus they mate up to Deans with no trouble.


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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 12/31/2012 5:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Look for the HK big block connector holder to help you with soldering on the Deans "T" connectors. They are the defacto standard in electric flight.

The connector holder also works well with any other connector, too.

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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 12/31/2012 5:48 PM   
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Look for the HK big block connector holder to help you with soldering on the Deans ''T'' connectors. They are the defacto standard in electric flight.

The connector holder also works well with any other connector, too.

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thanks for the tip but i wasn't able to directly find anything using your words. But I did find this soldering jig eventually. Is that what you meant? If not can you send me a link? Either way, I didn't know they made a jig and sure am glad I found it!

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=17626

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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 12/31/2012 9:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Most problems people have with soldering to the Deans Ultra or similar connectors is that they are using to small an iron with to small a tip. Use at least a 60 watt iron with a large spade tip, pretin the connector pins and pretin the wire. The secret to not deforming the plug is to use enough heat capacity to quickly flow the solder at the connector and then remove the iron. If you use to small an iron, you have to hold it on the connector to long and it softens the plastic housing enough to let it deform or miss align. If both the iron and the wire are properly tinned, just jig them so they are touching and quickly reheat the joint, no additional solder needed. The solder on the wire and connector pin will flow together and make the perfect joint.

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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 1/1/2013 12:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		You may solder the battery wire directly on to a 4mm bullet connector, after cutting off the 5mm connector, tin the tip with a sizable soldering iron (e.g., 80w), and carefully filing of the excessive solder off the tip. If you prefer to standardize the connectors to 4mm bullet.

That is what I did on my Zippy Compact 5000mah 25C packs. My other packs (such as Turnigy ones) use the 4mm bullet.

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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 1/1/2013 12:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I've had no problems with them getting soft either.

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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 1/1/2013 12:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Can someone answer definitively if the HK T-Connector is 100% compatible with Dean's Ultra connectors?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__24416__5_5mm_Bullet_Connector_to_T_Connector_Battery_Adapter_2pcs_bag_.html

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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 1/1/2013 12:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		thanks for the tip but i wasn't able to directly find anything using your words. But I did find this soldering jig eventually. Is that what you meant? If not can you send me a link? Either way, I didn't know they made a jig and sure am glad I found it!

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=17626

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That's the gizmo I was talking about. Keeps the air from turning blue around you (from excess profanity) whe you solder connectors.
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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 1/1/2013 12:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I can add my own $.02 to the soldering tips, I've suffered the softened housing problem myself (my own fault).

What I found was to do everything that you folks describe for reliable soldering, but I also mate the connector to its counterpart to act as an alignment jig.

As I said, just my own $.02

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RE: Are T connectors the same thing as Deans? - 1/1/2013 1:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		There was a really nice article in one of the hobby magazines recently. Deans were rated at 50 amps or less. Hobby King "yellow" XT60 connector was rated at 60 amps, and they have another one at 90 amps. They are very easy to solder and in fact have cutouts at the proper angle where the wire enters the plug. It's not a flat connection. Polarity is clearly marked, the tension on the pins can be adjusted for ease of use, five pair cost less than $5, and well, they are really superior. They don't melt unless you grossly over-do it. I understand people wanting to "buy American", stay with what they are familiar with, etc. But if you try the XTs, and use them properly, you might never want to use anything else. And at $5 for FIVE PAIRS...

No, I have no affiliation with Hobby King. I'm just a modeler like you who wants good stuff at fair prices, and I'm always looking for bargains on good items.

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