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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/6/2013 10:21 PM   
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What on earth do you mean ''risking your planes using Spektrum''?



For sure!!! I've had 3 Spektrums 2.4 ever since they have been out and never a single problem. If you can afford to put 2,000/3,000 bucks in a TX then a cheaper one is sure not gonna measure up in the payers mind.

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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/6/2013 11:27 PM   
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............... I still see no point in risking your planes using spektrum when you already use the most robust 2.4Ghz link available...



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What on earth do you mean ''risking your planes using Spektrum''?



For sure!!! I've had 3 Spektrums 2.4 ever since they have been out and never a single problem. If you can afford to put 2,000/3,000 bucks in a TX then a cheaper one is sure not gonna measure up in the payers mind.



I was going to say something too... but why feed the trolls?


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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/6/2013 11:44 PM   
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What on earth do you mean "risking your planes using Spektrum"?


Where i fly there are nothing but problems with Spektrum radios, Nearly every weekend somthing will go in on spektrum, had 3 in on day, Aircraft would randomly unbind in the air,  futaba FAAST, never a issue. Now i must admit, since a couple of them have changed to the DSMX they have been fine without issue.

So from my point of view, you cant blame that guy from saying what he did!

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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 12:12 AM   
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Dave, I recently purchased a DX18QQ for my A-10 and I like it even when compared to my trusty 12X. The additional money over the standard DX18 is worth it because of the 12 channel receiver and case. If you were to buy DX18 + 12 channel receiver + case (12X case won't work) it'll cost $1158.

FWIW, I bought a 18MZ and hated the programming and sold the radio. I used a 14MZ for years before I switched to JR and the 18MZ reminded how unintuitive Futaba radios are. $3000 for a radio with software that felt like it was designed in the 80s. No thanks.




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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 12:26 AM   
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 12:29 AM   
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 1:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I flew Futaba for 20 years after Kraft, ProLine, and EKLogictrol. I've flown JR for 14 years. I favor Japanese products over Chinese. I think most or all of the Spektrum products are made in China. JR would be my choice based on that idiosyncrasy. I also think JR has superior servos over all other brands. JR programming is easy. The readout window is excellent. As far as the radio link is concerned, we have had a couple of issues with Spektrum at our field. None with JR that I know of. Not a broad sample, but still, you go with what works in your realm of experience.

Modern radios are great. Best of luck with your choice.

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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 2:19 AM   
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 2:58 AM   
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Having used Futaba 9zap, JR 9303, Spektrum 7, among others... My vote goes for
Futaba 18mz... enough said.
...just saying

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You used a bunch of low-mid range radios and then proclaim the 18MZ is the king of the heap? Well I hope so given the products you are comparing it to.

I really like the 18MZ from a feature perspective, just don't care for the programming. That's not a huge issue for a lot of people, but weighs heavily for me. I'm not opposed to switching back to Futaba if JR abandons DSM-X and doesn't come out with a comparable offering.

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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 3:04 AM   
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the 9zap was THE radio back in the day.. not what I would consider "low-mod" range radio. It had complicated programing, but nothing came close. True, the 18mz is not what I would consider user friendly, but definitely a radio with superior features... my .02
BTW, it hasn't even come close to failing me yet...
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 4:05 AM   
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 4:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Tom!

Happy New Year to you too.

Thanks very much for the offer. I dont really have any doubts about the DX18/QQ just wondering if I need it or just stick with my setup and add the next weatronic receiver.

I had a chance to look at a Jeti 2.4 transmitter last month in FL - it seems similar to the type of design weatronic is coming out with; very interesting. I think I am going to buy the weatronic transmitter if I can find one when they come out..


I may start my setup for the Hawk on my older 1222/12X just for setting things up if I need a little time. I will await my 10X checkup report before the next decision.

Thanks again! I hope GC was great, or is great!

Hope to see you at Owatonna, FDL and MN JEt Rally 2013

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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 1:48 PM   
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 1:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wish this topic had come out a week earlier when I was faced with the same decision. Two points made my selection choice. First of all, I'm not going to pay a lot extra for a QQ dog tag and baseball cap. But most of all, ask yourself what are the applications you will use the radio for. I need true porportional control on aux channels for scale applications. All of the high end radios only have switches for the aux functions. The only one equipped with porportional control knobs was the JR 12X and it has four knobs. I have owned a 10 channel JR for many years and it has always worked perfectly. My decision was simple, buy the JR 12X. I will miss the touch-screen programming however.

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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 2:02 PM   
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I think I am going to buy the weatronic transmitter if I can find one when they come out..

It is called, bizarrely, the BAT 60 tx. Wea says summer 2013, which probably means just before Xmas 2013! Price will be up to 2000 euros.



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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 2:31 PM   
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 2:41 PM   
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I wish this topic had come out a week earlier when I was faced with the same decision. Two points made my selection choice. First of all, I'm not going to pay a lot extra for a QQ dog tag and baseball cap. But most of all, ask yourself what are the applications you will use the radio for. I need true porportional control on aux channels for scale applications. All of the high end radios only have switches for the aux functions. The only one equipped with porportional control knobs was the JR 12X and it has four knobs. I have owned a 10 channel JR for many years and it has always worked perfectly. My decision was simple, buy the JR 12X. I will miss the touch-screen programming however.
Question if U only need 6 channels for scale and you have a 10 channel radio thet works perfectly well then why would you want to incure the expence and learning curve of a new radio?   I would guess it's Just like the rest of us ... New and bigger is always BESTEST!


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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 5:48 PM   
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The 9z was THE radio back in the day, but George Washington was the US President back then too. In fact, I think he had a 9z.


Good one Dub...

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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 6:49 PM   
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. I will miss the touch-screen programming however.


Not for long ! I felt exactly the same about the touch screen and was disappointed that it had gone, but it only took a short while to realise the roller is superb. It's great for the likes of adjusting elevator mix to flaps while flying. So quick, so easy.




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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/7/2013 6:50 PM   
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/8/2013 1:12 AM   
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I really like the 18MZ from a feature perspective, just don't care for the programming. That's not a huge issue for a lot of people, but weighs heavily for me. I'm not opposed to switching back to Futaba if JR abandons DSM-X and doesn't come out with a comparable offering.

There is a video somewhere on the JR Japanese website with translation....it features the lead JR engineer.....No more DSM-X as that is Spektrum operating system despite all the downer comments about Spek....
They have developed their own O.S., i.e. DMSS, totally incompatible with DSM2&DSM-X.....

They have had a few problems which has slowed intro of the 12x replacement....only the DMSS XG11 and XG6 so far....

I don't have the video link but it will turn up in a Google search....

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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/8/2013 2:23 AM   
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/8/2013 3:01 AM   
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/8/2013 3:12 AM   
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RE: Help me decide on a radio - 1/8/2013 3:35 AM   
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