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Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/19/2013 4:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		So we all know how electrics have advanced in technology over the years. Look at the difference in power from brushed to brushless etc.....battery life and power output gains have been truely amaising. Can someone please explain the Dremel to me? Why was it left behind?

I have ditched the Dremel in place of an air pencil grinder. I cant stand the powerless plastic piece of wishfull thinking. Just my 2 cents worth. Opinions welcome

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/19/2013 4:45 PM   
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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/19/2013 7:32 PM   
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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/19/2013 9:17 PM   
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Air pencil grinders are awesome as are most pneumatic tools. But comppressors are expensive and loud. I can bust out the $25 dremel to tool away at something on my rc at the kitchen table real quick and not bother my girlfriend in the next room.......gets the job done for us that don't have home garages or workshops I guess.

dremels also use less power than a compressor

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/19/2013 10:39 PM   
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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/20/2013 7:48 AM   
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So we all know how electrics have advanced in technology over the years. Look at the difference in power from brushed to brushless etc.....battery life and power output gains have been truely amaising. Can someone please explain the Dremel to me? Why was it left behind?

I have ditched the Dremel in place of an air pencil grinder. I cant stand the powerless plastic piece of wishfull thinking. Just my 2 cents worth. Opinions welcome


What model did u have? Powerless? I'm interested to know more, are they really that bad?
I just got a dremel 3000 and I find it plenty powerfull for my hobby projects so far

Just wondering what where u working on that it was found to be underpowered?


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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/20/2013 4:26 PM   
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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/20/2013 7:34 PM   
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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/20/2013 8:25 PM   
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So we all know how electrics have advanced in technology over the years. Look at the difference in power from brushed to brushless etc.....battery life and power output gains have been truely amaising. Can someone please explain the Dremel to me? Why was it left behind?

I have ditched the Dremel in place of an air pencil grinder. I cant stand the powerless plastic piece of wishfull thinking. Just my 2 cents worth. Opinions welcome

What is doing the cutting and what you are cutting is just as important as what is driving the cutter.
You can ruin any cutting edge with improper use.
If a tool has the same cutter but is lower powered then you work slower and take lighter cuts.

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/21/2013 1:44 AM   
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The OP"S complaint reminds me of my father in law, he complains about his tools been underpowered and they keep breaking....
wanna know why? he dosent let the tool do the work, he forces it, ive seen him destory a mini chainsaw, and even push a circular saw so hard it striped the gearbox!!

Seriously ive just blended and ported a 26cc motor with my Dremel, it had tons on power, I was doing some heavy grinding and it was happy, If I worked the tool any harder it wouls be uncontrollableand dammage my tips. what was the OP doing?

How can u even compare a Air grinder to a Dremel? what????
it takes me 2min to set up my dremel on the kitchen bench, and i can use it why the kids are asleep and my wife is watching tv.
hell, even my 1yo can carry the whole Dremel kit...its that light.

I dont see a pencil grinder been very pratical, mobile or versitile.

Great example, just yesterday, the valve caps were stuck on my wifes tyres, (stipid alloy caps)
it took me about 7min to setup and complete the job

where if u used a Air compressor it would of taken 10min to just setup and wait for it to pressureise.... not everyone has a 3hp pluss compressor

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/21/2013 4:26 AM   
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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/21/2013 3:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I do much grinding and polishing at work. My opinion was formed in the work environment, we would eat up a Dremel tool inside of two weeks. I am a tool and die guy, I work on cutting tools, forming tools and molding tools. The Dremel was used for polishing only so not pushing it really......

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/21/2013 7:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a decent older Dremel in my basement workshop, but should I feel the need to do more than that can handle, I have an air compressor I use my big tools with, and a nice selection of die grinders, both straight and 90 degree. And should I feel the need to have all that trackside with me, I have a little refillable 10 Gal air tank that fits nicely in the trunk of the car  All this, honestly, isn't practical to buy if you don't have other uses for it outside of your hobby! 

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/21/2013 7:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I last used one of my buddies Dremel at the track a couple of months ago. It was a rechargable unit and it was pretty wimpy, (trying to drill out a snapped off screw). Any pressure put on it to push it into the material would cause it to bog or stop almost instintly. I dont know how old it was or how long it went without charging. Seemed the same as I always remembered, gutless, zero tork, poor working switch, and it rattled and slopped around as if there were no bearings in it.

If you all have had better luck with yours, I may entertain purchasing a new Lithium unit for my pitbox. I am very opinionated, but am willing to listen to others experiances......

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/21/2013 9:10 PM   
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I last used one of my buddies Dremel at the track a couple of months ago. It was a rechargable unit and it was pretty wimpy, (trying to drill out a snapped off screw). Any pressure put on it to push it into the material would cause it to bog or stop almost instintly. I dont know how old it was or how long it went without charging. Seemed the same as I always remembered, gutless, zero tork, poor working switch, and it rattled and slopped around as if there were no bearings in it.

If you all have had better luck with yours, I may entertain purchasing a new Lithium unit for my pitbox. I am very opinionated, but am willing to listen to others experiances......

Dremels are not really made for drilling, for drilling I recommend a drill, I have a Dewalt rechargable that will nearly turn me around before it will stop.

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/21/2013 11:01 PM   
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I was trying to drill out a snapped off aluminum ball stud out of carbon fiber for all you smart ashes out there. No one carries a Dewalt drill motor in there pit box, for the most part, a cordless dremel is all we were left with. I am 48 years old and a tool and die guy, I know what the right freekin tool for the job is.

I guess if you all find the Dremel a usefull tool, then use it. Did not mean to Pee in your weaties. Toolman out.....and NEVER MIND!


Dont get fustrated, u were the one that provided little to no information, and the peoples oppinions and conclusions were based of ur comments and from what i can see fully justifiable.

Seriously if u were cutting alloy with a dremel and slowed down to a stop, something was wrong.
im keen to find out more information on that

now for my smartass comment

so what u are saying u are 48 and cant Dremel alloy?

might be worth asking this girl for some pointers?



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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/21/2013 11:09 PM   
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U can't read these forums on that I-thingy can you?



whats that ment to mean, are u having a go because i thought u were using it on a non rc related project????

maby u computer does not show the time of the posts (unlikely)

Did u stop to think that i was writing my post while u were doing yourse???? wow could it be 2 post at the same time WOW

I dident see ur post untill i posted mine, allso the 20th post was the first to mention a rc car.

so saying that who made the mistake?


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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/22/2013 11:43 AM   
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Use the right tool for the job and they work wonders.
Don't care how long somebody has been at something, doesn't mean they have a clue or are good at it! Never been sure why people think that the length of time they have been at a job is any indication of skill, knowledge or ability, I'm a tradesman and have seen as much if not more bad work done by "old guys" than young guys! Most of the time the old guys are so outdated they can hardly function on a modern jobsite!

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/22/2013 12:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a Dremel that is probably one of the first. It just has an on/off switch. I have it hooked to a sewing machine electric foot pedal. I can grind or do whatever with it and never have to pause to change speeds. I have been using it since probably 1668 or so. The button that is used to hold the collet to change the bit is long gone, so I just drilled a hole all the way thru and use a short piece if pushrod, allen wrench or small screwdriver to change the bit. The kids bought me a new fancy dial speed a few years but I let the wife have it to cut the dog's toenails.

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/22/2013 12:54 PM   
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I have a Dremel that is probably one of the first. It just has an on/off switch. I have it hooked to a sewing machine electric foot pedal. I can grind or do whatever with it and never have to pause to change speeds. I have been using it since probably 1668 or so. The button that is used to hold the collet to change the bit is long gone, so I just drilled a hole all the way thru and use a short piece if pushrod, allen wrench or small screwdriver to change the bit. The kids bought me a new fancy dial speed a few years but I let the wife have it to cut the dog's toenails.


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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/22/2013 5:02 PM   
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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/22/2013 5:54 PM   
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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/22/2013 6:26 PM   
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I have the cordless Li-Ion Dremel and I think it is the most useful and treasured tool I own. I use it constantly.


OK already, I will stop and buy a new one tonight on the way home. Apearently I am WRONG And they are the best thing since sliced bread..................Thank you!


Yes Phmaximus, I left myself open for this beating by providing little information. My bad. Was looking for a Neutral topic to talk about, did not have any idea you all had stock in the Dremel. Funny thing is, I got the idea to talk about it after reading your post about you modifying your large scale engine. You had yours die and had to have it replaced under warrenty. (spelling) Sorry, I thought I saw a common thread develope here, guess not.

I was looking for information to lead me to a more robust unit, like the Dremel used to be, for my pit box.

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RE: Electric technology and the Dremel - 1/22/2013 7:32 PM   
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