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ORIGINAL: phmaximus

Hey look, im after the best budget controller for all my surface stuff, if this is better ill make the swap.

but ATM it does not look that good to warrent changing everything over.

I dont know a whole lot about pro level controller, so please excuse my presistance, im just trying to learn.
What advantages would I gain from this? or what advantages would a die hard racer gain?

I think some of the features would be handy on large scale 1/5 and above, just not 1/10 and 1/8

I dont know im just a basher

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ORIGINAL: Foxy


Look at it this way...forget the Flysky, lets imagine I posted a Futaba 4pkRS, arguably the finest radio available, period. Would you argue that it is comparable to the TQi?

My Futaba has a custom grip, a very rare very lightweight throttle trigger spring, the steering wheel is exactly where I want it in 3 planes of movement. The weight is perfectly balanced like a handgun. These ergonomic considerations are really what counts when you are trying to be the best you can be, standing on the drivers stand, concentrating, holding the tx for 45 minutes without even blinking.

I have a TQi, and I hate it. Hated it since I first used it. The trigger spring is FAR too strong, its very uncomfortable to hold, it's way too light, it takes aa batteries, it looks cheap and nasty. It is frankly a toy compared to 'serious' radios. The fact that it fulfills your needs adequately does not surprise me, and more power to you. I am used to far better evolved stuff., which have to do with more than just 'features that we actually use'.

Once again, I'm not saying this radio is going to make the Futaba 4pk look like a waste of money, but if it really does all its supposed to do, and 'feels' right, then its in with a shot of doing just that, since the feature sets are almost the same, in fact, the Flysky has the touch screen which to my knowledge no other radio has at the moment.

It has a lot to prove and I will need to review one properly before I can say for sure if it woulod be worth even you making the swap, however, $26 per receiver is a pretty good incentive for most.

P.S. You mention that a couple of the features that the FS has over the TQi would be suited only to gas, and I don't disagree, however, what would you rather have? A radio that you could use if/when you got a gasser and with every other car? Or would you rather buy a new radio again when you get a gasser. More is normally better, regardless whether you have an immediate use or not.

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ORIGINAL: phmaximus

Umm no, I don't think I would compare a TQi to a Futuba 4pk, firstly they have no comparable features and they are in totally different price ranges. And I would say they are aimed at totally different markets.

Good. Then why compare this flysky? It's directly comparable to the 4pk, same features.

Glad u like ur Futuba, but that's irrelevant

No, it's not irrelevant, because I own a TQi as well. The ergonomics of a futaba radio are adjustable, as they are on this flysky.

So with the TQi u are just starting ur opinion not facts.
My opinion of the throttle spring, easy to pull, my 1yo, 2yo and 8yo have no problems using it. Hell even my wife thinks its easy.
Just measured it it's a whooping 115g maximum... I don't thing that's ''far to strong''

Try a pro radio, and try some on road racing, and you'll see why this is important.

I even told my wife some one thought that the spring was to strong... Don't think I'll post here response, but it was funny

Yeh, your wife, with her massive experience of RC, knowledge of what has been said in this thread and knowing what kind of person I am, has to have a really relevant opinion. I told my wife there is a guy here saying his TQi is comparable to racing radios, you probably don't wanna hear what she said either.

In ur opinion it's to light to hold for 45min with out blinking. I've never heard of someone complaining about a hand held object been too light? What the? All I can suggest is try it with a docking base and iPhone docked. Mine comes in at 499g with out a i device and 638g with a iPhone docked. I've found with a iPhone docked its got great ballance, and a very low cog witch makes the controllers ballance point the trigger it self when fully depressed. So I don't understand why u say it's not ballanced?

Where did I say it was 'too light to hold for 45 mins'. I said that both 'it is too light', and that I don't like holding it for 45 mins, but neither has any bearing on the other. Its about the adjustability of the grips, trigger, wheel position.

Yes it takes AA batteries are u saying that's a bad thing? I've upgraded mine to use the hump nimh pack, and it's got a built in charging jack.

Yes, taking aa batteries is a bad thing compared to including a lipo pack.

Looks cheap and nasty? Please explain? From what I can see the housing it thick and reinforced with bridges and the housings fit together perfectly, some of the best plastic injecting moulding I've seen from traxxas yet. There are no rattles or creaks when shaken, and all curcit boards and wires are secured very well. I can fault its construction one bit?
Is it because it does not have any bling? Or rubber grips?

PErlease...you think it looks 'pro?'. It doesn't even have an adjustable wheel.

Non telemerty recivers for the TQi are $30 and $37 for the telemerty ones that's cheap right?

Yeh, not bad. You see you're the one here comparing the TQI to the radio here, I'm not (my whole point from the start). If I really wanted to ridicule the TQi's features and price, I'd point out the Flysky GT3b and c, which are much cheaper than the tqi and have all the features that matter without an apple device. Their receivers are 8 bucks. Who needs telemetry?

Ok I better stop I've got heapse more to say, but I've been bitten by TLDR to many times now?
Last 2 question what does this mean, I hope u not trying to take the piss
''The fact that it fulfills your needs adequately does not surprise me, and more power to you''
Not at all, I'm supporting you, in saying that nobody 'needs' the flysky or a futaba to control a RC car. Someof us just like to use more 'serious' equipment than an RTR traxxas radio.

If u have the 4pk why would u buy this radio?
I have a 3pk lightly customized, 15 years old.

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ORIGINAL: Ttam Says Blarg

Its defiantly worth the risk. For a 150 you cant go wrong.

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ORIGINAL: The Mad Modder

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ORIGINAL: Ttam Says Blarg

Its defiantly worth the risk. For a 150 you cant go wrong.

I wish I had the kind of money to say who cares about a measly $150...

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ORIGINAL: cumquat

i get what he means by too light. i've never held the tqi (and dont plan to) but if you hold something you think should have some heft and it doesnt, it feels awkward and unpleasent. also, solid construction doesnt mean it LOOKS it. there's lots of thing that look like they'll break if a butterfly breaths on them yet they can take 3 smacks from a 12 pound sledgehammer.

they are in a similar price range. while the sticker prices are vastly different, they are close when you add a new ithingie, which someone like me would need to fully utilize (i refuse to buy used electronics of this type). and at such a price, the features dont justify the cost.

as far as his comment about the traxxas radio working for you, i think he simply meant that you dont take the hobby quite as seriously as others. specifically, you dont see the merit in a $500 radio, while others do. for your purpose, the tqi is sufficient.

now on a more relevant comparison, the tqi vs this radio, there is no comparison. this radio devastates the traxxas. and there is 1 simple reason. no accessories required to reach full potential. it has all features available out of the box whereas the tqi doesnt. you may argue that it does, but the simple fact is the traxxas lacks any kind of screen, which makes any programming a PITA. to the point that many will probably ignore the features. add an iwhatchamacallit and you are now competing with the 4pl at the low end in price.

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ORIGINAL: iexion

Anything that requires you to buy an apple product which will also require you to purchase a two year contract with a cellular wireless provider isnt something im going to look at ever again. Ive owned and used the dam traxxas transmitter (E-Revo) its soul purpose is to get the wheels moving and to turn the front two wheels.
I own and USE a Flysky GT3B. The only thing the GT3b lacks over the traxxas TQ is batteries (8 vs 4). But again with either transmitter im using rechargeable batteries anyways...

When you require some form of remotely decent performance you'll want to upgrade far away from any TQ radio. Period!

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ORIGINAL: phmaximus

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ORIGINAL: iexion

Anything that requires you to buy an apple product which will also require you to purchase a two year contract with a cellular wireless provider isnt something im going to look at ever again. Ive owned and used the dam traxxas transmitter (E-Revo) its soul purpose is to get the wheels moving and to turn the front two wheels.
I own and USE a Flysky GT3B. The only thing the GT3b lacks over the traxxas TQ is batteries (8 vs 4). But again with either transmitter im using rechargeable batteries anyways...

When you require some form of remotely decent performance you'll want to upgrade far away from any TQ radio. Period!

u dont need a contract with a ipod touch???
u dont need a contract with a iphone????
ipods dont use a cellular network, they are wifi
iphones can be brought outright
Dont reccomend using rechargables in a 4 battery controller thats only 4.8v where its ment to be 6v, it will go flat realy fast. Myself I use the optional traxxas 5cell hump pack, it supplys 6v and is rechargeable.

Just wondering what preformance upgrade would a ''better'' radio give me? will it make my car faster? steering more responsive? longer range? im intrested to know?

the reson I went to the Tqi, is because it can easly be upgrade, modeded, and can controll 5ch
ive funlly upgraded mine with docking base iphone/ipod/ipad and ive decked out 3 cars with sensors. ive moded the 3ch so its a 3 posi switch for use with a winch on a crawler, reverse on a revo, lights on a drift car,, and I use all 5 ch on some cars. another crawler i have uses 3ch for lights, 4tch to turn on rear steering, 5ch to reverse rear steering direction. allso im setting up a Dessert truck to use the 4ch for bumper lights and 5ch for roof lights.

most of the things i use the the TQi are more for scale bashers. There is no other pistol grip radio that can controll 5ch, and i find the telemerty sometimes usefull .

Someday i plan to use a TQi to controll a scale comp crawler with winch, DIG and 2 speed. I can think of any controller in history with a pistol grip that could controll all that.