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McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/29/2013 11:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone any experience of this engine? It is offered by PAL Model Products.

www.palmodelproducts.com/engines.html



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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/30/2013 12:10 AM   
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FIERY they are in White Plains New York USA they show 2 engines the MCoy is one and an other and a few kits, wonder who makes them and where??? martin

NOTE McCoy had very mixed reputation some good others were junk A Cox 049 conversion s still an A+

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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/30/2013 12:48 AM   
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Status: online 		I own a lot of replicas-but not this one! [I have its Infant 020 stablemate though] I believe this McCoy replica uses a conventional (ie lapped or ground to finish) contra rather than the original McCoy (and OK!) US system of a looser fitting contra with an O-ring. That being said, the PAL replicas-unlike most other modern replicas-don't seem to have made much of an impact, despite being around for about a decade. Perhaps with PAWs, MP Jets and Cox/Norvel diesel conversions people are spoilt for choice in this size range? I believe the original McCoy 049 diesels had a reputation for breaking shafts......?

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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/30/2013 12:49 AM   
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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/30/2013 1:11 AM   
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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/30/2013 1:20 AM   
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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/30/2013 4:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't have the replica but I do have three or four original McCoy .049 diesels.

When they came out in the early fifties they were a sensation and soon owned the Pan American PAA weight-lifting class.

Every now and then someone would break a crankshaft but that was because they cranked on too much compression.

I had several of the little .049 diesels and never experienced a broken crank. I also ran them with 1" more pitch or diameter prop than the comparable glo engines from that period.

I liked the radial mount McCoy diesel because the model nose was much lighter than adding beam mounts.
There were several other 2-screw radial mount 1/2A Glo engines from that era were the Wasp, Atwood, Royal Spitfire, Holland Hornet and McCoy Baby Mac, OK Cub .049X and .039.



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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/30/2013 12:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		 McCoy .049 diesel is It is a P.A.L. replica of the McCoy .049 Dura Glow model diesel engine from Bob Langelius.  Bob gets them made by someone in Russia. The engines work fairly well.

Here is my replica example as compared to a original version.  I haven;t run my example, but some others are running and using them though.




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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/31/2013 2:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Little Mc. is much like the original Webra Piccolo.  Have had mine since the mid '50s in several FF models.   It goes well.


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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/31/2013 3:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		That little Webra is a nice engine. I've seen them with red, blue and natural aluminum muffs. Don't know if there are more colors.

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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/31/2013 5:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dan Vincent

That little Webra is a nice engine. I've seen them with red, blue and natural aluminum muffs. Don't know if there are more colors.



As far as I know the first model 1954 Piccolo as mine is only came out in red......I do have a brand new red head for this one but don't wish to unscrew the faded head here in fear of unscrewing the liner as well and upsetting it as it's been for getting on to 60 years.
Later ones with beam mounts may have had other colours????????

The 1.5cc original radial mount Rekord from 1952 had a blue head, then the 1954 radial and beam mount Rekord that I've had four of but now only two, had a red read as did the beam mount model from 1959???  In the '60s they had aluminium heads with no colour.......all beam mounts.
FWIW I've never seen in the flesh a blue head Rekord, but I did chase one on eBay in the USA about 6 months ago.........I did put in a really crazy bid on it that I thought would kill it as such, but at the last couple of seconds from memory it hit close to $300.......very very rare.

Sorry if I've taken this thread off topic.



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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/31/2013 6:43 AM   
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Status: online 		The second model (which was beam mount) was likewise red, whilst the last model-beam mount, bug starter added,-had a plain un-colored head as did the larger Record and Winner of the mid 60's on. My first experience with a Piccolo was with one of the 3rd models-and an exercise in frustration. 30 years later I acquired one of the same model as gossie-still just as bad as a 44 year old as I remembered as a 14-year old. Pigs of things!

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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/31/2013 8:13 AM   
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The second model (which was beam mount) was likewise red, whilst the last model-beam mount, bug starter added,-had a plain un-colored head as did the larger Record and Winner of the mid 60's on. My first experience with a Piccolo was with one of the 3rd models-and an exercise in frustration. 30 years later I acquired one of the same model as gossie-still just as bad as a 44 year old as I remembered as a 14-year old. Pigs of things!

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When I get the chance I guess I need to take a pic of mine running.  6X4 prop. gives plenty of noise but I tend to use a 7X4.

I have heard exactly your comments on Piccolo's and Rekord's many times in the past Chris, but I can honestly say all mine start up and run well.
Both types for me run okay on 1-1-1 fuel mix, but without doubt the best fuel mix for the Rekord is what the factory specifi........40% ether, 30% kero, 30% castor, then toss in a couple of percent of Amyl, DII or whatever.  7X4 prop. they really howl, but I just like a Taipan 8X4 trimmed a little, thinned and well balanced.



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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/31/2013 9:23 AM   
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Status: online 		My experience and discussions with others would suggest that my experiences with Piccolos are typical-(even David Owen agrees) and you're the lucky one gossie. That being said-I have no beef at all with the Record and Winner diesels-I have several of each and all start and handle well-including the redhead radial-beam model Record that was supposed to be a bit 'snappy'......

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RE: McCoy .049 Diesel Reproduction - 1/31/2013 10:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I also had a blue head Webra record, which originally belonged to my Dad. He must have been 17 or so when he got it.
I used it as a young teenager in the early 80's on c/l planes and tethered airboats until the shaft broke. It got a new lease on life with an OS Pet crankshaft (drop in fit) and used some more until again, the replacement shaft broke. I kept the parts but they disappeared some time after I moved overseas in the 90's.

I saw one go on German E-pay for DM495,- so that must have been shortly before Euro introduction in '98. Exchange rate to AUD at the time was 1:1, so very expensive! Current USD/AUD e rate is about 1.04:1, therefore about US$ 500, but all relative of course.

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