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WacoOne -> H9 Corsair (12/9/2003 6:46:50 PM)

Hey Guys
I concur with the complaints with the rudder/tail wheel nightmare. That wire is so hard that it takes a bulldozer to bend it. Definately bend it before installing the rudder.
I am now in the process of connecting the retract rods to the servo arms. Having a heck of a time! What's the secret? Do you cut off the rods? The manual doesn't indicate that they are cut. The manual also shows the rods parallel to each other with the servo in the retracted position, but I can't get mine parallel. Did anyone else have problems here? Help!
Bill



DrDeath -> RE: H9 Corsair (12/9/2003 7:03:19 PM)

WacoOne

That is definilty the best way to install it. I wish I would have done it that way. Instead mine is a little bit off (Guess that is what trim is for). I too will be doing the retracts tonight.



WacoOne -> RE: H9 Corsair Reply to DrDeath (12/9/2003 7:16:15 PM)

DrDeath
leave a post here tomorrow about how your retract installation went. I'm curious to see if I'm the only one having problems with it.
Bill



tophat -> RE: H9 Corsair Reply to DrDeath (12/9/2003 9:21:15 PM)

You want to make shure you use at least a 1" sevo arm(mesured from outside hole to outside hole)good luck.



DrDeath -> RE: H9 Corsair Reply to DrDeath (12/9/2003 9:35:46 PM)

I have a Dubro heavy duty servo arm that I didn't use on my Patty that I can use for the retracts. Should work pretty well. I will start working on it after I put my kid to bed. Thanks for the good luck offerings! The plane comes together pretty easily.

Lee



DrDeath -> RE: H9 Corsair Reply to DrDeath (12/12/2003 1:02:14 AM)

Gear is complete,

There is one issue with my gear setup. My left gear setup is 2.5MM back from the front of the edge of the gear box setup. Not sure if this will make a big difference or not. The concern I have is that if I drill more holes into the base it will weaken the structure too much. Will know better after I fly it and land it.

Lee



LDM -> RE: H9 Corsair Reply to DrDeath (12/12/2003 9:38:07 AM)

When its all said and done can someone alos fill me in ? I just got mine and I ma wondering if I shoudl pass on the mecahnical and go air ?



Richard L. -> RE: H9 Corsair Reply to DrDeath (12/13/2003 4:37:46 PM)

If you have never flown a Corsair before, then the supplied mechanical retracts will be more forgiving since the strut coils will absorb energy on impact and allow the struts to flex back on a hard or fast landing. It might be a good idea to try the mechanical retracts first while trying to get use to the plane.



Richard L. -> RE: H9 Corsair Reply to DrDeath (12/13/2003 4:53:35 PM)

I just provided Century Jet with a detailed diagram showing all necessary measurements for a set of rotating air retracts. According to CJ, the struts will be slightly longer than the ones for the Top Flite Corsair. I also requested that the air nipple closest to the retract housing be located directly on top of the air cylinder so it won't run into the rear of the gear mounting box. There is about 3/4" of clearance between the top of the wing and the top of the air cylinder. If you are planning on switching to CJ retracts, then you might want to wait for this set, which will be special made for the H9 Corsair.



LDJL -> RE: H9 Corsair Pilot (12/14/2003 12:28:56 AM)

Folks:
Section 8 step 1 of the directions state to remove the covering for the aileron servo extensions where you will pass the strings through the center wing. I have no holes below the covering? I'm ready to cut some but wanted to make sure I am not missing something. Any ideas? Run into the same?



WacoOne -> RE: H9 Corsair Pilot (12/14/2003 1:39:25 AM)

Yep. Mine was the same way. I had to cut some holes for the aileron leads. That's just one of several boo-boos in this arf. Another one, and I believe may be significant, is that the manual says to install the fin as far forward as possible in the slot. When I did that, the tailwheel/rudder strut came out 5/16" too far back. Therefore I had to slide the fin 5/16" back in the slot so the wire would be on the fin/rudder hinge line where it belongs. I don't know if this affects the flying, but I doubt it.
Incidentally, for those who haven't done it yet, bend the wire to go into the rudder BEFORE you epoxy the fin in place. It's almost impossible to get a good bend in it after the fin is installed. Don't forget to run it through the support bearing before you bend it, though.

Bill



LDJL -> RE: H9 Corsair Pilot (12/14/2003 1:54:32 AM)

Thanks..just wanted to make sure.
By the way, he is absolutely correct on the tail wheel guide issue.

I suggest putting the tail wheel wire through the bottom of the fuse, then installing the plastic guide over the wire, then make the bend. After that, you can epoxy the guide into the vert. stab and epoxy the stab into the fuse. Make sure you check measurements before you epoxy.



Hellcat716 -> RE: H9 Corsair Pilot (12/14/2003 6:20:00 AM)

WacoOne. I have had the same experience with my corsair as you have had and I am doing the same things that you have stated. Moving the fin back should have no effect on the flying characteristics. It is the only way to make it work and look right. I also had some binding on the bottom of the fuselege where the rudder servo attaches to the tailwheel, so I had to cut a little bit of the balsa down so the arm would move freely.



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iflircaircraft -> Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/14/2003 5:24:33 PM)

I just picked up my H-9 Corsair last night at my LHS and would like to give my humble opinion of this ARF. Since some of you are very much ahead of me with this bird, I'd like to hear any other Hits or Misses on this aircraft.
Here goes:

HITS
1) Very good construction
2) Excellent covering
3) Great Value vs. building a kit (done that)
4) Fine markings
5) Clean lines
6) Almost Idiot Proof

MISSES
1) No Model designation.....1A, 1D etc.
2) Servos for Rudder and Elevator outside fuse
3) Missing Flaps
4) No Guns and Ports

Just my .02 worth.
I may take the time to install Flaps and guns and mount the servos inside the fuse for Rudder and Elevator since there doesn't seem to be any hurry flying it with another snow storm here and Spring is 3 months away. If I get really picky I may even install gear doors.

Tom



F.Ciccarello -> RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/14/2003 6:08:07 PM)

Tom I think your corsair would be a show stopper if you did the scale mods to the plane.



iflircaircraft -> RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/14/2003 6:11:48 PM)

Thanks, and also thinking of the RCV90 as the engine with a 3 bladed prop ...minimum cutting of the cowl!!



Tom


Sometimes you eat bear. Sometimes the bear eats you!



Richard L. -> RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/14/2003 6:47:21 PM)

Misses:

  • Thin, flat, non scale vertical fin.
  • Thin, non scale rudder.
  • Thin, flat rear stab.



iflircaircraft -> RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/14/2003 9:22:17 PM)

sorry: was talking stand off scale. If I wanted to get real picky:


Misses

Air Intakes too narrow on wings
no tail hook for a USS carrier
not sure of wing/tail incidences
no Aerial mast fore and aft of canopy
no hard points or drop tanks
no cockpit interior

But hey....If I were to build a kit, I couldn't do it for close than what I paid for this ARF.
Not to mention the time savings alone!
H-9 did a great job for the money.

I wasn't trying to bash the H-9 ARF.
One thing that caught my eye the first time I saw this ARF were the post war markings, but they did serve in Korea.

'nough said already I guess!


Tom

Sometimes you eat bear. Sometimes the bear eats you!



LDM -> RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/15/2003 1:18:52 AM)

Keep us posted on the Flaps, woudl love to have your advice if you do it



jtsbn -> RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/15/2003 10:49:53 AM)

To everyone who is complaining about the misses on this plane. One this is a very good ARF it is not advertised as being stand off scale. If you want all the scale extra's build a kit or take the arf for what it is and modify it to fit your needs. If hanger 9 put all the detail scale things on it the price would be out of site. I have one sitting in my basement that belongs to my son and I have one on order. It is a great looking plane for the average flyer and should be a lot of fun. We should thank hanger 9 for a affordable nice clean looking ARF. Being a ARF I accept that there may be short falls, I know some areas need reinforced or improved by doing this I have had very good luck with ARF's and I don't think anyone could build a kit for the cost of the ARF.



Hellcat716 -> RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/15/2003 4:24:44 PM)

I agree with you 100%.



iflircaircraft -> RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/15/2003 5:06:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: iflircaircraft

If I were to build a kit, I couldn't do it for close than what I paid for this ARF.
Not to mention the time savings alone!
H-9 did a great job for the money.


Tom

Sometimes you eat bear. Sometimes the bear eats you!



LDM -> RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/19/2003 8:28:46 PM)

I agree its a great ARF, so great that is it worh playing with and making a few fun changes



viper21 -> RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair (12/20/2003 5:26:16 AM)

Century Jet is taking orders for pneumatic landing gear and struts for the plane now. http://www.centuryjet.com/webstore/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=957&CFID=378&CFTOKEN=22823881
What are most of you guys using for flying off pavement? I am thinking about getting this plane or the H9 60 size P51 to convert to electric but I would replace the landing gear. Are the Century Jet Retracts a good replacement gear for these planes? If I buy the Corsair I was going to order the Century Jet Retracts that they are making for the plane. These should be better than stock because they have working struts and should soak up the occasional bounce[X(] What do you guys think, how long will the stock gear last on pavement?
Thanks Joe



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