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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/20/2003 1:20:06 PM   
    PigMan Buggerus



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    Status: offline     		I also just saw that century is offering a retractable tailwheel? Anyone know anything about it?

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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/20/2003 2:31:40 PM   
    ziggy99


     

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    Status: offline     		What makes the Century Retracts woth $230? What is included with them and what else will I have to buy to get them working?

    I have never used air retracts before so any and all info is greatly appreciated!

    Thanks,
    Mike

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    RE: Hangar 9 60 size corsair arf - 12/20/2003 3:28:35 PM   
    JTWILLIE



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    Status: offline     		Please check my post on the new Corsair. I have a real concern for the construction of the front end of this model. While setting the needle valve at full throttle on mine, the firewall came off the plane. Imagine 11,000 rpm Saito loose. Busted the plane up real well. Nobody was hurt thank god. But a real safety problem that needs to be addressed. You could see where there were glue voids on the on the firewall. Parts have been sent back to Horizon. I truly hope John gets a look at those parts. Horizon is willing to give me a new Kit. However, I don't trust the design at this point. If John tells me they have done something to reinforce the front end, and fix the production problem, I would take another one. This one is a real safety issue.
    Search jtwillie to find my post.

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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/20/2003 5:08:24 PM   
    Richard L.



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    quote:

    What makes the Century Retracts woth $230? What is included with them and what else will I have to buy to get them working?

    Everything is included with Century Jet Retracts. However, you will need to get a variable air control valve to slow down the retract operation. Otherwise, the wheels will get slammed into the wing before they have a chance to rotate completely.

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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/20/2003 10:02:50 PM   
    viper21


     

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    Status: offline     		Can anyone tell me how the stock landing gear on the Corsair hold up on a smooth paved runway without rocks at the over run I am talking about 1000 feet. I am going to convert the Corsair to electric with about the same or actually more power than a Saito 100. I will even be able to drive a 3 blade prop and get the same performance without too much of a weight penalty. Robart makes a decent variable speed retract valve, I will probably buy the air Century Jet Retracts and install them before I fly the plane.
    Thanks Joe

    PS: JT I will read your posting now.

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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/20/2003 10:31:20 PM   
    LDM


     

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    Status: online     		Viper , I just got the plane and the stock gear and set up is first class. However I have had century in the past and i figured why invest 40 to 60 in a goo dretract servo ? I forked out the full$230 for the new century and they will be here on Tuesday . I fly off of Grass and pavemnet and expect no problem . I will keep you posted , i am not allowwed to work on the plane until after xmas because its from Santa . I was luckey to get to open it but had to close it back up after inspection .

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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/20/2003 10:47:52 PM   
    viper21


     

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    Status: offline     		Wow thanks LDM, I am going to buy mine after Christmas and I have decided to pop for the CJ retracts and 3/8 struts because I want something with a little Cush. I am going to do the electric conversion with a motor thats brushless and geared and will swing a 14x10 3 blade prop or even larger and will swing an 18x10 APC 2 blade prop I am going to have enough power to take off and go vertical and the new Lithium Polymer batteries I will use will give me 30 minutes of flight time on one charge. But I still cant help but want to install a 91 Surpass in it. I am putting a new 91 Surpass II with a Pump in my NIB Original EZ ARF Dago Red that has the original NIP Supra Mechanical retracts the good ones with the aluminum blocks, no play at all and no longer made. Its going to haul ass. And next year I am getting a 150 P51 and installing a Saito 2.0 V Twin. Maybe I will convert a 60 size Mustang to electric. See I fly both but most of my electrics are brushless powered Jets and are fast. I also have some small brushless power prop planes but nothing about 40 size with retracts. I have two EDF Jets with retracts and flaps that I am building. But I think the Corsair should get a Pumper Surpass II also what do you think?
    Thanks VIper

    PS: You have awesome self control by not starting the Corsair. That's how I get into these dilemmas and also having too many planes

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    RE: Hangar 9 60 size corsair arf - 12/20/2003 10:50:46 PM   
    Hellcat716



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    Status: offline     		I would recommend the next time you but any ARF that you spend some time on strengthing the firewall. Every ARF I purchase, I spend the time doing this and I have never had a firewall problem. With all the information that has been on this forum, I am surprised that you have not heard of this recommendation. The Hangar 9 P-51 and AT-6 Texan have all had this happen to them and I have both and have not had any problems with either of them. Even though they say you can fly these planes in fifteen to twenty hours of work, I spend at least fifty hours to get them in the condition I feel that they will be ready and SAFE to fly. Remember you are the pilot in command and the responsibility is in your hands.
    It says in the front of the manuel if the buyer is not prepared to accept the liability associated with the use of this product, the buyer is advised to return this kit immediatley in new and unused condition to the place of purchase.

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    RE: Hangar 9 60 size corsair arf - 12/21/2003 1:56:20 AM   
    LDM


     

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    Status: online     		hey Viper your arsenal of planes sounds great . On engines i am going to make everyone cringe on this comment. I have used magnum engines for the past five years , I tried them on simple cost reason only.To my surprise the quality and relaiabilty have been great , many modelers fall into the marketing traps of the mags . All you see is OS in engines, Robart in retracts , Futaba in Radios(recently JR) . If you stray outside the line you will find HITec is great , Magnum is great and cheap, Century is best and reasonable . So for my H9corsair its a magnum 91, Bob Divey interior, full bodied pilot by Offers and Gentleman, may even paint it the three tone version of Existing Blue, White , and light Blue .panle lines and one flat spary cote to dull it up . Viper your choice of engines is also great and you cant go wrong with the pumper surpass II. I am curious on your electric conversion . I was going to convert a Sportsman Spit with a Jeti engine and Batteries . Total cost of the engine and speed control was about $250 . Not including the batteries. In FLY RC they did a conversion with a Hacker and Hecells , the batteries alone were $375 a piece -wow is that high -but they did fly a 12lb plane . I woudl love to try electric WW2 but the conversions seen so costly , any advice , keep me posted . I am also working on a p40 that is why i have the patience to not open the h9

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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/21/2003 3:44:16 PM   
    ziggy99


     

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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Richard L.

    quote:

    What makes the Century Retracts woth $230? What is included with them and what else will I have to buy to get them working?

    Everything is included with Century Jet Retracts. However, you will need to get a variable air control valve to slow down the retract operation. Otherwise, the wheels will get slammed into the wing before they have a chance to rotate completely.


    Ok, I now know everything come with them, but what makes the worth $230? Will they hold up to the pounding of grass? Will I have to buy the struts seperate?

    Please supply more info.
    Thanks,
    Mike

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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/21/2003 4:36:37 PM   
    rcalbuquerque


     

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    Status: offline     		I have put 12 flights on my Hanger 9 Corsair and so far the landing gear is holding up very well.All of my landings have been pretty smooth with an couple of bouncy landings also.I did dead stick once which resulted in over shooting the runway and rolling out in a dirt field about 60 ft with no damage. I am running a YS120SF which is about 33 oz motor and 16oz fuel tank.I also reinforced the firewall with epoxy.This plane fly's excellent and lands great with no bad habbits. I would love to install the Century retracts but have over spent on rc gear this year and will have to wait.I feel that these retracts will hold up but time will tell .Great airplane


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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/21/2003 7:08:05 PM   
    skate5290


     

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    Status: offline     		is the corsair easy to fly because i am a beginner just about to get off of using my trainer. sounds like the corsair is a very nice plane.

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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/21/2003 9:56:58 PM   
    Ilikebipes



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    Status: offline     		skate5290;
    I strongly urge you to master at least one low wing aircraft with speeds comparable to a super sportster first. In the meantime, you could purchase the corsair, assemble it, and fly it with an instructer untill proficient.


    Would anyone be willing to get me one for Christmas this year?

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    RE: Hits and Misses of H-9 Corsair - 12/21/2003 10:12:13 PM   
    rcalbuquerque


     

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