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TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly (1ST MISHAP!!!) - 9/24/2003 4:40:22 PM   
splais


 

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There are a couple of TF 1/5 Scale P-51Arf threads running in different places. But I would like to see an assembly and setup thread dedicated to this plane so here goes. If you are working on yours please post away.

My construction will take some time because the retracts are on back order and I will not have the engine for about two weeks. However I can provide the following starting point.

My plane will be equipped with the Desert Aircraft 50R engine equipped with a Slimline wrap-around inverted muffler. All flight surface servos will be digital Hitec 5625’s because I had them. Will be using Hitec 225MG for the throttle and retracts. I’m using the recommended Robart 622-5 main retracts and the Robart 160 retractable tailwheel. I will probably end up spending another $150 to get their alumin hubbed scale P-51 wheels also.

Aileron and flap control rods are H9 titanium Pro-links with MK 2.5mm (red) BB adjusters (looks really sharp). I used the supplied control horns for the ailerons and flaps, but replaced the screws with neat button-head #4x1/2 screws.

Right now, while I wait for the Robart stuff and engine to arrive I am working on how I want to paint the guns, exhaust stacks and cockpit; and which scale WWII pilot to use. Also a couple dozen other little pre-assembly steps that soak up time. The attached picture is of my control rod setup.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/24/2003 6:56:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		My Mustang is also waiting for Robart Gear. I plan to install the Fuji 50cc engine possibly with soft mounts. Engine length is very good for the cowl and if mounted solid to the firewall with the long prop extension installed, the engine will need only a 1/4-inch ply shim plate against the firewall for the thrust washer to be properly located. 7 1/4 inches from firewall.

Radio will be the Futaba 9C with 60 oz. torque servos. Pilot will be a 1/6-scale full figure WWII pilot from bbi Elite Forces.

I do not intend to modify the model with the exception of the engine choice. If a Slimline muffler is availably for the Fuji, that's what I'll use.
GY

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/24/2003 8:17:12 PM   
splais


 

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Status: offline 		Great tip on the pilot. I have a thread running on the Scale forum and here you go answering my question. Is this the pilot you are using? The figures I found by bbi were 1/6 scale (12" which I think will fit nicely. I'm also working to get some pictures of the Century Jet Deluxe P-51 Cockpit also.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/24/2003 8:51:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I found a pilot (called P-51 on the box) at Toys-R-Us for $20.00 like the one displayed.

Bought two.
12" tall with all accessories.
Very nice.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/24/2003 8:52:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yep, that's the little sucker I was talking about! Actually, I plan to give the poor fellow a body transplant. Feeling like Dr. Frankenstein, I will remove his head and hands and replace the rest of his body with foam and a coat hangar armature to save on weight! The cloths and equipment are just fabulous! Also according to several photos in my "Mustang Survivors" book, Big Beautiful Doll is often flown by a pilot who has a modern jet-style helmet (black and white checkerboard) and wearing a green jump suit! So there are other possibilities for the properly dressed mustang flyer!
Cheers,
GY

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/24/2003 8:54:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am also thinking about adding droppable bombs. But that will come later after I work out the flying part of the project!
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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/25/2003 4:25:15 AM   
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Does it appear that the arfs full cowl would bolt on the kits firewall,there by doing away with the difficult shaping of the kits nose? If anybody's got both aircraft could you let us know?
I have a kit version thats on the back burner because I was unhappy with the assembly and shaping of the upper balsa blocks of the nose , I know its not impossible but this might be a easier option.
I have a zdz 50 with a heavily modified bcm muffler that is almost completely enclosed in the lower fiberglass cowl for the kit version which should provide plenty of power ( no 3d) without massive nose hackage i.e. muffler or carb hanging out. So if the dimensions are the same ,firewall to spinner backplate distance , width , etc , it should work ok. Thanks Jay

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Scale cockpit - Wow - 9/25/2003 7:15:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Boy, did I find a great item. A company called Dynamic Balsa makes mid and high level scale warbird cockpits. The will have a cockpit available for the TF 1/5 P-51 ARF in a couple of weeks. the website below is a sample of their work. I'm already on the list. If interested give them a call at (815)856-2272. It's about the neatest thing I've seen that will be out for this plane. I can just see my Elite Forces pilot sitting in it now. the attached pic is a sample.

http://www.dbalsa.com/

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RE: Scale cockpit - Wow - 9/25/2003 7:34:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I been pondering back & forth between the Hangar 9 & new topflite and p51's.I think I have finally narrowed it down to purchasing the H9 P51 cause the retracts are included.My question is that I am on the fence towards going gas or a moki210.Anyone know whether the moki210 will fit in neatly without butchering the cowl up?I had the WM P51 with a os160fx and she was fast.The WM mustang is bigger than the h9 so I think a Moki210 outta make the H9 zippp!Now I am also thinking about a gas engine for the h9 as well-thoughts on this-which ones may fit without again mutilating the cowl?I am planning to strip the plane down when I get it & recover it in chrome ultracoat-a very sweet illusion I think-complete with "brass tube" applied rivets!!This did the trick awesome on my BVM F86 sabre in skyblazers scheme-also covered with chrome ultracoat-bad to the bone!


thanks in advance, Steve

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/25/2003 8:19:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Steve, if you are talking about the 1.50 size H9 P-51, I think she will be to small for any of the 40-50cc size engines required to fly here well. I have some experience with the smaller gas engines like the MVVS/RCS. I had an MVVS 1.60 in a 14 pound PacAero GeeBeeY. Barely flew it, no vertical. I went with the TF because it is bigger than the H9. I have nothing against H9. I Just think the TF is a better plane for the gasoline engine. I am completely satisfied with the big TF AND it is about $30 cheaper than the H9. Also read the thread on that plane. A lot of people have had to replace the retracts it comes with.


PS: I have also found the cheapest, scale aluminum wheels for the P-51. Sold by Aerotech Models (612-721-1285, www.aerotechmodels.com) for $95/pr, they are cheaper by half of anything else I've found. Size is 4-7/8 x 1.5".

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/25/2003 11:41:10 PM   
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I checked out the aerotech website.Man their P51 is sweettttt but out of the question @ 2395.00 errr.I was wondering something tho,Being that their P51 & the top flite are the same size(within a 1/2 inch),I was thinking I bet with most likely no mods or very little that you could make their sliding canopy & gear doors work on the TF.I am now after more thoughtout research going with the TF.Let me know your thoughts on this Splais.That sliding canopy & those scale /riveted gear doors would be one sweet detail!!

thanks Steve

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/26/2003 4:08:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, I'm waiting to call them about the time you read this. I too saw that sliding canopy and thought hmmmm. I also thought there gear door, even the main door, was a lot nicer than the TF and would probably fit. The TF ones are a little chessy.

As a point of interest, the TF was obviously not meant to be a full-on scale airplane, but it has a lot of potential and since I could not get the custom job I wanted I am kind of in the middle of upgrading the TF as much as I can; things are looking good.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/26/2003 12:39:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes the Aerotech canopy and details will fit the TF Mustang and Thunderbolt. They used to say so on the website but I haven't been there in a while. Many use the canopy for the T'bolt as the TF kit one is off. Also the exhaust stacks for the Mustang have much greater detail.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 9/26/2003 12:42:08 PM