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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/21/2003 7:19 PM   
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I'm sorry your right,Zinger wasn't where I saw the adjustable prop,it was at WWW.clarkindustries.com.here is another site you might like to look at,check this engine out,it actually runs,http://dynamotive.netfirms.com/merlin

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/21/2003 8:27 PM   
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Very interesting.
Museum grade ... doesn't look like the prop is available yet ... not on price list.

I saw a four blade ( 2 & 3 also I believe) adjustable pitch prop at Toledo last year for around $125.00 ... but can't remember the manufactures name. The pitch was adjusted by turning the hub to the correct pitch number. Maybe I'll run into them again this year.

The Merlin Engine looks fantastic. Wish I were a machinist and had $5000.00 to spare. But then I would be afraid to fly the thing. I would need to just run it and listen.

Easydog1

I'm not doing the BBD scheme. In fact I'm making up my own from many photos I have. I will not enter in any contest, so I decided to do a scheme that I might have as a WWII pilot. The name on the plane will be SANDRA JEAN ... after my wife of course. Yellow/Black/Aluminum/White markings with panel lines and dark green on the top of the nose (sun shield) and maybe a "black" instead of red rearing Mustang Horse.. Thats what I'm planning at this time anyway. Getting graphics done at a local sign shop that caters to us RC'ers. I'm preparing the plane now for covering. Finishing up the air actuated inner gear doors and associated servo/air system(s). A lot of work ... hope it last for awhile before I dork it !

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/21/2003 9:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well for the first time ever I decided to try painting something with spray cans and following the directions on the can. It came out beautiful. I was going to get my $178.00 Tru-Turn 5”spinner painted at an auto body shop; then I decided it was just ridiculous to spend another $100 on painting. So I went to Pep Boys and purchased a can of Krylon primer, white, black and clear paint. I sanded the spinner with 400 grit, primed it, taped off one side with low stick painter’s tape and painted it white. Taped off the other side and painted it black, then painted over the entire spinner with clear. It came out beautiful and only cost me about $12.

As you can see from the latest pictures I have also added two antennas - the rigid vertical antenna behind the canopy and the wire antenna that runs up to the vertical stabilizer. The fuselage sheeting behind the canopy is a good ¼” or more thick so it was very easy to CA in the antenna. I did a quick fix on the wire antenna. Later I am going to make it more scale and run it through the canopy and all the way down to the radio on the turtledeck behind the pilots seat. The stabilzer end is attached just as on the real P-51, with a small spring.

My final step is to add the gear doors.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/21/2003 9:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I also found a little known picture of the “Doll” when Col Landers’ squadron was flying secret missions over the Carpatheian Mountains in support of Resistance operations. Due to the terrible weather and visibility during the Winter of 1944 and the high chance of mid-air collisions they had to paint visibility strips on the tops of the wings. I duplicated this color scheme and it came out really sharp looking.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/21/2003 9:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Way to go Splais

Your having fun ... aren't you.

Nice to hear you tried something(s) new and succeeded ! Paint and everything looks good.

Still working on the Kit Version (started two winters ago) !

You have given me some spark to finish ! Wish the ARF was available when I ordered ... I'd have been flying already !

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/21/2003 11:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice job, that spinner looks great. This is the one I'm doing. http://www.p51.mustangsmustangs.com/survivors/p51/45-11391.shtml The guy is close to me, as a mater of fact I fly touch and gos there all the time. So I'm planing to stop and take some pictures soon.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/22/2003 5:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		the company that makes the adjustable prop you saw in TOL is

http://www.soloprops.com/

super nice guy. he is working on a 4 blader for 04....thats the one i want

the clark industries prop i just emailed them about sizes, prices and availability.. we'll see what the response is

still working on mine


have a great weekend guys

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/22/2003 8:03 PM   
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Dear Sir:
I am still working on the reduction unit and will not have the adjustable prop assy's for sale until all the bugs are workied out of the reduction unit, as they are designed as a complete unit.
I will have 1/4 scale P-51 props at that time also but only in quarter scale.
No pricing as yet
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And my reduction drive and Scale Prop will not be sold until it is throughly tested and i know to the best of my ability it works. the drive is looking good, that prop is almost there

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ps, if i could figure out how to post a big (5MB) movie i made of my drive running, i'd do it here but i cannot.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/22/2003 8:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Joe, I have a Clark Spitfire that I'm building and have delt with John Clark for the last year or so. He is a very nice and interesting guy. His machining and prouducts are very nice. His timetable for getting things done is terrible. When I ordered my Spit in August He siad I would get it first of November, I finally got it end of April. I have had a scale prop on order for four months now. I am first in line for his reduction drive if it ever gets done. So there is the story, nice prouducts but who knows when you will get them. Don

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/22/2003 10:59 PM   
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Hey gang, Flew the Mustang today!!!!! Seven times no less. Believe it or not, I made no trim changes. The ZDZ40 is more than enough power. Takes off at half throttle. Did most of my flying at half throttle. This bird flies like my larger Nosen Mustang. Very stable, and tracks very well. It was blowing around 10 to fifteen MPH all day. Penitration was excellent. Model was flow using a 20/8 Zinger pro prop. Plane needs more pitch. After motor breaks in will go to a 20/12 prop. The Seirra retracts worked flawlessly. I would recomend both the ZDZ40 engine and Darrell Tenneys retracts for this model. The plane will do large loops and emelmen turns with ease. Flies upside down with little down pressure. When I dropped the flaps, I expected the plane to balloon up, but it just slowed down. No attitude change due to flap deployment. Landings are very easy. Did not seam squirrely as the plane slowed down.
Have now mounted engine and tail surfaces to model number #2. Should have radio installed by next week. Then on to #3

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/23/2003 1:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Gary,

Sounds like these birds are pretty uniform. I had the same flight characteristics, including the flaps. I would be interested in how you attached your landing gear doors and whose you used. Close-up pick would be nice. Darrell says he has some neat brackets that are way better than the TF wood blocks. But I also think the kit doors are really cheesie looking up close. I haven't even tried to put them on yet.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/23/2003 6:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Will get you a picture asap. We used a piece of aluminum through the center of the door to stiffen the glass door. Used the wooden block with brass straps at bottom of strut with Sierra standoffs at middle and top of strut. Had to add wood to stand offs to get proper distance from door to strut. Nooooo problem yet.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/23/2003 7:17 PM   
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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/24/2003 2:24 PM   
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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/24/2003 7:20 PM   
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Great flight photo Dick, I have now built two of the four I am building for a couple of friends and myself. I found both so far to be only an 1/8th" difference from wingtip to tail,side to side on the wing. They must be very straight to need no trim.
This one belongs to a friend. So is the second one. I will then start on mine. Will have them all ready to fly by end of Jan. That is if I get the retracts and accessories in time.
Have a great Turkey day!!!!

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/24/2003 8:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, Gary, pretty smart. Build the others guys first, work out all the bugs, then do yours. PS: You haven't answered my PM yet.

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Pettit, love that low angle shot. going to have to get one of mine like that. Add the rear vertical and wire antennas, paint the spinner. You can't imagine how much it adds.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/25/2003 2:24 PM   
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Revisited the issue of the Moki 2.10 fitting in the cowl.
It fits without any cutting.

The only thing I must work on is the muffler. I purchased a J-Tec for inverted installation. It will be close ... maybe too close to the cowl. I'm afraid the heat from the close proximity may distort the cowl ... even though I added a thick layer of fiberglass. I may look for another muffler ... need something a little "thinner".

Also looked at two reviews of the Moki 2.10, a dyno test showed 4.8 HP at 8800 RPM. This is as much HP as my DA-50, although the DA-50 runs at the lower RPM of 6500.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/25/2003 2:49 PM   
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Your correct ... that is the adjustable prop I saw in Toledo.
I'll keep tabs on them for the 4-blade version. Looks like $175 to $200 will be the price.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/26/2003 2:18 AM   
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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/27/2003 9:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hay if any of you guys are interested I was doing a little surfing tonight and found a gear reduction unit,but its for a specific motor is the problem.actually he has two differnt units,one doesnt look to durable but one looks pretty tough.There at MICK REEVES website.The bigger of two is geared 1.75 to 1.Just though someone here might like to take a look see.
WWW.mrmodels.fsnet.co.uk look under Other Kits,page down to toward the bottom.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/27/2003 11:38 AM   
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Hay if any of you guys are interested I was doing a little surfing tonight and found a gear reduction unit,but its for a specific motor is the problem.actually he has two differnt units,one doesnt look to durable but one looks pretty tough.There at MICK REEVES website.The bigger of two is geared 1.75 to 1.Just though someone here might like to take a look see.
WWW.mrmodels.fsnet.co.uk look under Other Kits,page down to toward the bottom.

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RE: TF 1/5 Scale P-51 ARF Assembly Thread - 11/28/2003 4:04 AM   
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First Mishap - 11/28/2003 8:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, had my first mishap today. Stupid me tried to save a bad approach and I bounced her. On the second touchdown the left main gear just folded right up. Depending on your point of view the damage was minimal. Small scrap on wing tip. Left gear mount broken clear out.

I have the Sierra retracts held on with six screws that were suppose to pull out if you had a bad landing. Forget that, the gear is still perfectly attached to what is left of the wheel well mounting structure. It just snaped all that 1/4 inch ply right off. The good part is that it is nice and clean and I will have it fixed in a couple of days The gear is held in place by two wing ribs that are made of 1/4 inch ply. Then there is a support structure of 1/4 inch ply around the top. Stupid me forgot to take a picture before starting repairs. Anyway one of the ribs broke loose were it is notched for the wings center lengthwise rib.

It fit back together pretty clean. I epoxied the whole thing up and I will drill and put a 1/8 inch dowl were the wing rib was broken and some supporting ply a few other places. I am not worrying about those 6 screws holding the Sierra retracts on. It looks like they will be the last thing to pull out.

Aside from this little adventure, the motor is breaking in and the plane is flying great. It's actually quit easy to land and takeoff. This accident should never have happened. There was a contributing factor in my defence. We had a 10-12 mph quartering crosswind, but actually the plane hardly noticed it.

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RE: First Mishap - 11/28/2003 10:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		splais, I read where some people are mounting their retracts with nylon bolts with no problems. Maybe this could be the answer. They say they are durable and only shear off when they are supposed to.

Sorry to hear about your "incident". Hope the repairs turn out well.

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RE: First Mishap - 11/29/2003 4:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think nylon screws would hold it at all. There is another factor. The way the gear and mounting box is designed there is no way you can have the gear come loose without major structural damage. My repair has proven more complicated than expected. I have broken plywood in about three different places. Only time will tell if it holds. The design looks ok. It is just apparent that a 20# warbird is not designed for bad landings. I actually may have contributed to this busted gear by not fixing something before hand. The gear that gave way had just a hair to much inward bend (not straight up and down). But in order to fix it I needed to completely remove it. Well that problem is solved now.

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