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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 5:27:53 AM   
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I assume from the lack of your usual lighting fast responses to anything I post you are having a problem with the validity portion of your hypothetical. That’s OK this time, you stirred up enough garbage that we need to look at the real world portion of your hypothetical.


No you d^%b@$s! You are wrong again. I happen to have a hobby... I was out flying and spending the evening with some buds.

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Back to the Cow. Simple physics would lead us to believe that a cow born on Earth, rather than Krypton, will be unable to exert the forces necessary to propel itself over the moon.


Nothing to say to that except you are an idiot
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In your hypothetical, you ignore basic facts that are just as important. First, ANY attorney that is going to file this type of action is going to take everyone in site, including, but, not limited to the landlord. Now, what do we know about the landlord’s coverage provided by the AMA? Well, it is not the same as that provided to either individuals or clubs. It does not have the exclusions, real or imagined, that the individual or club are subject to. We now have a lawsuit where the landlord has been named. What else do we know, that you are either unaware of? We know that the AMA will defend the club.. period. NO if’s, and’s or but’s. This is set forth in the By-Laws of the AMA in Article III, Section 2. It is not subject to the insurance, or anything else.


Where do I make mention that this club has exclusive use convyed by a "landlord"? Again JR another d@@b#$s ASSumtion on your part. Also where have I said that AMA would not defend the club? Once again Another d22b66s ASSumption!

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So.. now we have the AMA defending the club and the landlord. The ultimate outcome of the trial becomes moot. If the widow wins, the club officers are protected and have been defended at no cost to themselves or the club.


SEE ABOVE


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The entire substance of your hypothetical is hooey. It is lacking in both validity (I suppose I could get amazed and find that you have found some documentation) and in real world facts.

JR


HMMM... Get off the fence boy either it is hooey or could there be real life case that parrallels this hooey. Take a stand. Trying to have your cake and it too...WHAT A WHIMP.
WISHY WASHY JR

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 5:31:53 AM   
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I didn't miss it. I just don't think it makes any difference. To be valid the rule would need to be documented in the club bylaws or field rules. If Elmer didn't bother to make himself aware of the rules, shame on him. As the saying goes, ignorance of the law is no excuse.

If the rules are not documented then there would be no way to prove in court that they existed.

You can worry about all the "what if" scenarios in life to the point that you're afraid to leave your house. Personally, common sense precautions are enough to make me sleep well at night.


Why worry then.

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 5:33:07 AM   
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As VP of my club, you got my attention with this thread.


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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 5:36:03 AM   
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Which is another case of the appearance being at odd to reality....Much like the irresponsibility of the title of this thread. Obviously, 13-triple-x works for a newspaper-the headline has no relationship to the content, and is merely intended to attract attention and deceive.

Attention yes deception NO. Again I have made no assertion of fact. Just trying to get responses to strategies other clubs use.

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 5:39:26 AM   
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Very much as 12DDD appears to have two gray cells to rub together if viewed at the correct angle. Hmmm. I wonder if the tilt-a-whirl is the proper viewing area?


If I had a single brain cell it would exceed your count. And as for as the tilt-a-whirl perspective you should know since you have never been off it and on stable ground. You need to go see Sandy.

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 5:52:47 AM   
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Now the question. Can you document one single instance where the AMA insurance has denied a claim based on the exclusions in the Safety Code? Just one will do.



JR


You missed the point JR... This discussion is not about exclusions in the Safety Code but exclusions caused by the club rules. I know you would have probably said that the club rules have become by extension part of the safety code but that IS the point of contention here.

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 6:06:57 AM   
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Doesn't really matter. My club purchases liability insurance for the board. It's only right. These guys put in a lot of time and effort into the club, and it's not right they should be paid back with a law suit, no matter how unjustified. We live in a society dominated by litigation and insurance. It's something we need to address as a society, but I don't want my board members to be pawns in the battle.

It seems that there are those that think AMA may fall short

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 6:17:28 AM   
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Just wondering


Does anyone here know of a case where action was taken against a club directly or a board member of a club. It seems there is many that are afraid of the "great what if" but so far those that I have talked to, that have expressed concerns, could not give an account of a single case to justifies their concerns.


Sounds like I pursued the very response in post #6 JR has asked of me in post#19.HMMM JR you are an Idiot that can't read.

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 7:08:52 AM   
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Next time he pulls it, don't take the bait

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 10:45:01 AM   
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Why worry then.


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As VP of my club, you got my attention with this thread.


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I'm not worried. I said you got my attention, which you did with your original post, but the hypothetical situation that you subsequently described is imo unrealistic and not a cause for concern.

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 3:41:58 PM   
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I hope all of you have realized that 12DDD is no more than a troll

Next time he pulls it, don't take the bait



I have I2DDD on ignore so I don't know what he has said except for the bits and pieces quoted in others posts, but your right which is the reason I have him on ignore.

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 4:01:07 PM   
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I'm not worried. I said you got my attention, which you did with your original post, but the hypothetical situation that you subsequently described is imo unrealistic and not a cause for concern.


Can you tell me why it is so unrealistic?

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/17/2003 7:39:34 PM   
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[Can you tell me why it is so unrealistic?



I think thats been covered by some of the above posts by JR and others.

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/18/2003 2:15:07 AM   
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[Can you tell me why it is so unrealistic?



I think thats been covered by some of the above posts by JR and others.

Actually no one in this thread has indicated why the hypothetical is unrealistic...Actually a hypothetical is not real and only a d^#b$$s like JR would call any hypothetical unrealistic...maybe improbable, highly unlikely or even next to impossible but the term unrealistic just doesn't apply...that is the nature of hypothetical...they are not real but I guess JR has you some of you guys brainwashed and can only parrot him, as he does others, and are incapable of an original thought.

SO… with the hypothetical given, even if poorly worded or constructed, or any other more probable hypothetical you may have, does the chance for the club to be sued increase? Decrease? Stay the same? I am not asking whether AMA will provide any defense for the club or if the AMA might contribute to a settlement BUT only if the probability for litigation involving the club in question increases or not.


OH by the way … OF COURSE ANY ONE CAN SUE SOMEONE. This was such a revelation to us all it was worth reiterating… NOT

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/18/2003 2:45:39 AM   
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You really do have a problem. You don't seem to realize when someone was trying to be nice to you.

Nav8tor describe this troll you porduced as unrealistic... quite polite of him... I think.

I prefer my terms for it; silly, garbage, and hooey.

JR

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RE: Club board members sued! - 10/18/2003 2:51:36 AM   
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Since you ARE into silliness, ponder this. It shouldn't take you more than a week or so.

If the hare had not stopped along the way, would he have beaten the tortoise?

JR

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