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Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/17/2003 6:21:09 PM   
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Well - I picked up the Reflex Yesterday. I will post some photos of the build process in the upcoming days. Taking my time, since I wont be getting the engine header and pipe for another 2 weeks.

So far I have assembled the front and rear diffs, as well as the optional front one way diff. I have also completed all four hub carries, pillow ball setups, and CVD's.

Only time will tell if this is a better kit than the NTC3 for racing, but so far I have noticed several things that impress me.

-The gear diffs vice ball diffs are much more fluid and well built
-The CVD's are titanium
-so are all the tierods
-4mm chassis compared to 2.5mm on the tc3
-carbon fibre shock towers, and upper chassis brace

there are other things too, and like i said, not sure if any of these features will show an improvment over the ntc3, but they do seem to be a lil better quality.

Another thing i have noticed is that Trinity's favour for style has crossed over into this kit. silly things like crome pulleys, two tone cvds pillow balls and the like, they spend alot of time on eye candy as well as performance. AE abides by the form follows function theory. The eye candy doesnt had any performance aspect to the vehicle, but it is nice to look at.

well, thats about it - as i said, i will post some pics in the next few days of the build process. still havnt decided between the 3 engines i listed in the forum Earlier. any ideas would be helpful

Day 3

the photo below shows the completed pillow balls and knuckles as well as the titanium CVD's. also, in the background, u can see the servo saver with attached titanium turnbuckles.



below is the completed front suspension. u can begin to see the quality and structural integrity of the suspension. one of my beefs with the ntc3 was that the front shock tower was attached to the front diff. during races, this would become damaged and make the car undrivable due to the top shock tower stripping out of the top diff. After racing the NTC3's for a year, i have more lower front diff cases than i know what to do with, since they come in pairs. the suspension setup of the reflex eliminates this.



the picture below shows the now completed rear suspension, and brake assembly. as u can see, trinty has chosen to use aluminium and carbon fiber extensivly throughout the car. If anyone else choses to build this car make sure that you not only file down some of the edges, where the carbon meets belts, ect... but use CA all around the outside to prevent pealing in the event of a crash.



Day 5

here is a photo of the hardest thing i had to work on during the entire build process. My cat.



everytime i would walk away for a minute, she would try to get up on the table and either bat the pieces around, or eat them. needless to say, im glad i had some spare bolts. I caught her sneaking up to the table when i took this pic.

The next photo shows just how committed trinity is to detail. this is a pic of the shock shafts and plunger assemblies. as u can see, even they are aluminium. amazing.



here are two more photos with the shocks installed and the carbon fibre top plate on. still have a ways to go. have decided to use the new Sirio .12TRP to power rthe vehicle. Installing a hitec 311 servo for throttle and a 635 for steering.



Well - thats it for now. I still need to install the electronics, batts engine and pipe, as well as some other minor accessories.

I have picked up the trinity 1100ma cell for the rcvr, and am going with another novak synth rcvr to use with my Hitec Lynx 3D TX. The engine and pipe are on order, but wont be here for another week or so. Please post any questions or replys.

I will post more photos of the final completion stages, as well as break in and how it does at its first race.

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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/17/2003 7:24:41 PM   
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Nitroaddict - congrats on the reflex. IMHO, it will be a better racer that the ntc3. More flexible in chassi setup, non-existense chassi flex, many parts interchange with the kyosho v1r and with some mods, you can convert it to the kyosho v1rr evolution.

BTW, it you have not already picked up an engine, get one with an sg shaft and then get a kawahara centax for it. The centax will be a good addition to the setup.

Which reflex did you get? Is it the team version?

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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/17/2003 7:35:13 PM   
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dg - i looked at the team only, but chose against it, due to the overt cost factor.

I replaced one of my NTC3's with a centax clutch, and noticed only a minor difference. since i dont really need the adjustability, i will probably save that cost for a while. the std clutch in this kit is a double 3 shoe system, so it should grab pretty well.

I purchased the optional one way front diff, but am not going to install it at this time.

Havnt purchased an engine yet - however, am almost certain that i will pick up the Sirio SR12TRP.

Going with the factory trinity one piece pipe and header. I will have some pictures posted of the build process this weekend

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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/17/2003 7:44:08 PM   
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My son is running the non-team reflex nt. He have a front one way, using the OS TR engine with the 3 shoe clutch, and using the one-piece rd logics turbo (roar legal) pipe. The clutch does grab properly as it is and the car does well out of the box.

I am still playing with his setup. I will drop it in the hudy this weekend and set it up to mimic (exactly like) my v1r setup. It will be at the track on Sunday so I can share with you the setup if it is any good. The track is medium size but is a technical track so I might have to play with gearing too.

Good luck. Looking forward for some good pics of your ride.

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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/17/2003 7:47:48 PM   
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Thanks. setup tips would be appreciated. To help u judge, here are the two local tracks i race at:

smaller track:



Larger track:


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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/17/2003 8:00:51 PM   
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I wish I had access to a track.The closest one to me is 4 hours away.I've been trying to get my LHS to set one up but they want to build an Off road track.I have a few in door tracks but I can't run nitro in them.

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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/17/2003 8:13:22 PM   
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Rex - it you can make it to the tracks once, you will be amazed on how well a car runs on a prep track. Lots of fun.

Nitro - those tracks looks great and technical. Do you know the measurements (width and length) and also do you have pics of the other half showing straight aways? This way, I can see if the track I/we run on is almost the same and the setups will be a good starting point.


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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/17/2003 8:26:44 PM   
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click below for my photo gallery. u will find several pics of both tracks.

http://www.rcnitrotalk.com/gallery/showgallery.php?ppuser=595&cat=500&thumb=1

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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/28/2003 6:05:50 PM   
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Nitro - I finally got my son's Reflex to react properly on a track as if the car is on rails. The track layout looks similar to those tracks you posted.

Here are the setups (used Hudy board and gauges):
FRONT
diff: 40K
spring: ae reds
shock oil: 60 wt
toe: -1.5
ride height: 6mm
droop: +2

REAR
diff: 10K
spring: ae reds
shock oil: 60wt
toe: -2
ride height: 6:5mm
droop: -1

No sways. Trinity shock oil used.

Can't recall the tires for sure but I believe we tried 35 shores all around and also Yoks med/med all around.




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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/28/2003 6:19:25 PM   
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thanks for the heads up, similar to my setup now. cept im running 40,000 in the front.

6mm ride hight? wow thats tall

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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/28/2003 9:27:33 PM   
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thanks for the heads up, similar to my setup now. cept im running 40,000 in the front.

6mm ride hight? wow thats tall


Thanks for noticing. My mistake. Let me correct the ride heights.

Front: 4mm
Rear: 4.5mm

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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 10/28/2003 9:47:38 PM   
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whew! scared me there for a minute

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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 11/14/2003 8:03:42 PM   
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well - the car is complete. only waiting on the engine, pipe and header. after completing it - i noticed that the belts are really tight. if u push it, it doesnt roll very far. not sure if this is normal. anyone with a belt drive kit - can u give me some insight?

i have decided on the RB Concepts RODY V12 for an engine. should be potent enough i think. will be picking it up on friday along with the trinity one piece pipe and header.

here are some photos of the completed car.








i will post some photos of the engine when it comes in, as well as the final pics of the car, engine and everything together.

once it is broken in, i will post some comments about the engine performance, as well as the chassis itself

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RE: Trinity Reflex Build Project - Pic Intensive - 11/16/2003 2:37:02 AM