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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/9/2004 4:07:14 AM   
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did you mean 40 gallon compressor? I have a crafstmen 3HP 15 gallon and it's only rated at 4.9 scfm at 40 psi? Have you been using the Sata mini jetIII for a while? I'm on the fence between the Sata or the devilbiss.

marty.

P.S. Did you get the mounting bolt for your RCV engine in that Bipe? (Now wondering........ who the heck is this?)


marty

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/9/2004 12:51:55 PM   
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Nope it is a 4 gallon, 3 HP, 8 scfm at 40psi. Checked the plate on the air compressor before the original response. I have had the gun and the compressor a little over a year (Santa brought it to me) and both work well. I also use a Paasche airbrush. I have only sprayed with Nelson Paint so far. I have no experience with the Devilbiss gun or any other gun for that matter. After purchasing my Sata over the net I found a local source for parts and accessories. Having someone local for help should figure, if not decide, your decision.

Yes, I found a replacement bolt for my RCV. Once I found out the size I ordered some from RTL fasteners. I reassembled the engine with a more generous use of loctite. Then the bolt holding the throttle barrel backed out on me. That is another story.

And why would you wonder about me? Just a middle age guy back in the hobby a few years after a 23 year absence. I also learned a long time ago that if you buy good stuff, take care of it, it lasts a long time. Remember, I didn't say the most expensive ... I said good ... try and find value and good customer service.

Where is Moseley, VA? Do you fly with the Richmond Area Radio Control Club?

Jim

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/9/2004 3:56:22 PM   
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Ok on the compressor specs. The numbers just did'nt add up in my head. Of course if I can get the cobwebs out of there, maybe things would seem clearer. I'm probably going to get the sata even though my minimal artistic talent will never be able to exploit it's full capabilities. I've also learned over the years that "buy cheap, buy twice" usually holds true especially for tools. It does'nt have to be the most expensive of it's type to get good quality but if it's the cheapest(can you say Yugo), it's probably not going to last too long or even work out of the box.


I've been living in "Moseley" for about a year now. What's funny is that even the native Virginians don't know where it is. So then I tell them, I'm right over the border of Midlothian by the resevoir and then they say, "oh I know where that is". Yes, I'm a member of RARC. I was at the field that day when you realized the engine was loose due to the missing bolt.

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/9/2004 9:44:32 PM   
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If you would like to do a try before you buy you are welcome to come over to my shop and give the gun a whirl.

Jim

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/9/2004 10:05:23 PM   
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That's a generous offer on your part but I'm somewhat tied down at home as of late except when I escape to the flying field. Besides, I'm kind of a mail order junky and enjoy the anticipation of getting something new from the brown truck. I do however have one question if you can. I read that the top feed hvlp guns are easy to clean. How does it compare to the paasche vl. I have the paasche also and sometimes I end up using a paint brush because I dread the disassembly procedure with the paasche.

thanks
marty

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/10/2004 12:34:10 AM   
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The Sata is much easier to clean. I think it has 3 parts (cup, tip, nozzle) Then there is the body. No springs, small tips, nor a push button that you can never seem to get back in the hole. I have done the VL a million times. It is amazing I haven't lost a part.

Auto Paint Supply Co, Inc in Richmond carry the Sata, Binks, and Devilbiss. Their Web site is
http://www.autopaint.com/Auto%20Paint%20Supply,%20Richmond.htm

You might want to give them a call and see what kind of deal they can give you. They also carry the fine paint filters, tape, fillers, and other goodies. You will need to strain the paint before spraying. 804-321-6177

Jim

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/10/2004 4:11:11 AM   
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Thanks for the good info on cleaning and the local supplier.

See you at the field.

marty

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/25/2004 7:15:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		After reading what guys had to say about the Sata Mini-Jet 3 I had to have one. Very nice gun and what was said about it is true but here is where I differ, I don't think it's worth the big money. The one thing I do like over my cheaper ( $50 ) gun is I can control the air so I don't get a lot of overspray. Is that worth the extra money, not really. The Sata is easier to clean. I use cup liners so I don't even worry about cleaning the cup. Like someone said, the most expensive gun doesn't make you an expert painter but having quality equipment does help. So I would say, if you can afford it, go with the Sata but you can get good results with a cheaper gun, just practice.
Larry

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/25/2004 9:00:35 PM   
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Since I am in need of a HVLP gun, this thread was a g-d send. Your recommendations for the Walcom STM, Sata Minijet 3 SR and Devilbis SRI625G yielded the follwing results:

Walcom $150.00
Sata $200.00
Devilbis $200.00

This does not include the regulator, water separator, etc. I guess another $100 would cover the miscellaneous details.

Based upon the price mark, I will probably purchase the Sata Minijet 3 SR.

Thanks,
Lew

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/25/2004 9:08:08 PM   
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I purchased mine here: http://www.spraygunworld.com/ I bought the sata but I have'nt had a chance to use it. They carry the other brands also. This was the best price I found. I got it the day after they shipped it. They have a few distribution points around country. Good luck.

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/26/2004 5:32:58 PM   
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I have not used guns of this sort before, only smaller Badgers and Paasches.

Basd upon your knowledge, what other components would I need in order to gurarantee good results. i.e. Pressure regulators, water separators, etc.

thanks,
Lew

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/26/2004 6:02:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know if its just me or what but talking about $200-300 paint guns for painting a toy seems ludicrous. I am NOT speaking from experience here but as a total newb in the painting field (still building my TF FG-1D so I'm just collecting info. I did buy a cheapo $40 touchup gun from Home Depot though so I did make the decision to buy the Chev. Just so you know I did put my $ where my mouth is).

It seems like you are saying

"buy the Lexus. The Chev is ok but the Lexus is so much nicer."

Yes, I'm sure it is but the Chev will get me there too.

This isn't meant to be a thread crapper or flame-generator or anything. It just seems that the $50 job from Harbor Freight is so much more practical. Man, I could buy two more planes (to build) for what the gun costs. And still have the gun to paint with.

Just wondering. That's all.

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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/26/2004 6:03:34 PM   
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RE: Sprayguns...HVLP? - 3/26/2004 7:14:19 PM   
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My experience is limited to airbrushing also. I did'nt mean to sound like an expert. Just wanted to let you know where I purchased mine for what I think was a good price compared to other sites. I know that you definetely want to keep the moisture out so a seperator is good to have. I bought an inline regulator because the ones that come on the compressor are'nt usually to accurate but you can probably get away with it to save some money.

I'd also like to respond to voyagers post. I would agree with you that less expensive equipment can yield great results and in the hands of an experienced painter you might not notice the difference between the equipment used. Then you might question why would they spend the extra money on the "lexus"? Because they have something that you and I don't. Experience. They've used the lower end and the upper end. They've been through the trials and tribulations of both ends of the spectrum and when they recommend a particular brand or model it comes from that experience. I've bought cheaper tools in the past and many times you end up spending more because you have to go out and buy the same tool again except a better brand or model because the first one was a piece of junk, but it was cheap. I also plan to use this gun in my other hobby which is woodworking so I had more of an excuse to spend the money. The bottom line is that you can buy less expensive equipment but you have to know what to look out for with the particular tool. I have no experience with HVLP guns so I went with the experience of others and based my decision on that. This way, I have one variable out of the way when I start spraying. The only problems will be my abilities, the settings on the gun, the material being sprayed and probably fifty other things that can affect the quality of the job except the gun itself unless it has a defect

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