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Math question - 11/1/2003 10:09:47 PM   
remten2001


 

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Status: offline 		Ok i bought a oil bottle its 16 oz and i have a gaz container wich is 1 imperial gallon and is 4.7 litres........

To mix the oil in gas to have 24 to 1 it takes the whole 16oz bottle and 12 litres of gas

How much oz of oil will it take to fill the 4.7 litre container?

I need it to be 25 to 1

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RE: Math question - 11/2/2003 12:06:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wizen,

In Europe we are not familiar with oz and gallons but if 16 oz on 12 litres of gas is 1 to 24, then 6,27 oz should be enough for 4,7 litres to get a 1 to 24 mixture. These engines run on a mixture from 1 to 25 - 1 to 30

so everything from 6,00 oz till 6,25 oz should be fine to get a good mixture.

Ron

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RE: Math question - 11/2/2003 2:09:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks thats what we all figured out cause i asked on like 5 different forums to make sure lol...So my buggy will have proper mix oil but i am not sure if the oil quality is up to the task here......Its says on it that its TC W something aprooved or somthing like that....i guess i will have try it and see...its the only descent oil i could find in this city that i live in......the brand is quakerstate don't know if will be good enough but accoring to there web site it is suppose to be good....Nothing extra....

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RE: Math question - 11/2/2003 4:16:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		I came up with 6.67oz for 4.7 Liters for a 25:1 mixture

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RE: Math question - 11/2/2003 9:28:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Real important is that the oil is fully synthetic..... You can use f.e. Castrol TTS or the stock FG oil.

6,67 oz is too much oil. If 6,27 oz is a 1 to 24 mixture you have to mix less oil to get a 1 to 25 mixture.

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RE: Math question - 11/2/2003 2:39:00 PM   
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Real important is that the oil is fully synthetic


well mine is not and there is absolulity nothing saying its a fully synthetic oil.....So what do i do?It says on there web site that there oil will make small engines such as weed wackers engine perfrom at there peak performance.....I am cluesless....So what do i do with this oil ?

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RE: Math question - 11/2/2003 7:34:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I'm not sure, isn't there anyone who knows what kind of oil to use. I'm sure there has be some oil wich is fully sysnthetic and is available in almost any kind of autoshop.

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RE: Math question - 11/2/2003 7:47:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		in FG's catalogue there is no where that its written that there own oil is synthetic....Its just says that there oil is for model engine.....So i am tired of sicking money into it and i am sure the FG distributor will ask 10 dollars for his little FG oil bottle so i am going to go and use the oil i have if the engine blows up well it will be a lesson learned....

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RE: Math question - 11/2/2003 8:20:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I raced motorcross for years. I had full sponsorship, so all the work was done for me. One thing my mechanic stressed was the oil. We used a semi sinthetic. Mineral based with addetives. Castrol A747 was what he swore by. Each bike ran a full season before being replaced & we never tore the barrel of any one of them. On the other side, guys using full synthetics such as Bell-Ray, were doing rebuilds about twice a season.
It was a good enough test for me, so all my boats & cars run Castrol A747.
Never had a problem. I run 20:1 in all the small motors. Fairley high, but with a good oil the motor runs cooler, no loss of HP & no fowling of the plug.
I read a dyno report on the PUM & they found that even as high as 15:1 there was no loss of HP. Their findings were the same as mine in that the motor also ran cooler.
Not trying to say that 1 point is better than the other, just sharing my experience.

Paul.

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RE: Math question - 11/2/2003 8:47:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		rest assure i have read about the castrol A747 but none of the bike shops sells them here where i live.... I ecen checked on canada's castrol web site and they don't show it.....But they show it on the american castrol web site.....

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RE: Math question - 11/4/2003 8:59:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wizen - Can you get Klotz oil? the R50 is also a great oil.
Other oils to look for are Cool Power blue synthetic, Bel-Ray MC1 & Mercury Quicksilver.
Whatever you use, make sure that it is a good oil - don't skimp.
A castor base oil will gum up the plug at low revs. That's why people are recommending full synthetic for cars. Boats are a different storey because the are generally running at high RPM most of the time which burns off any castor gum.
Try not to mix any leaner than 25:1 - 40ml per L (I like 20:1 - 50ml per L) & whatever oil you start with - stick to it. If you change oils after break in you will have all sorts of trouble. Stay with the 1 oil & you have a motor good for the long haul.
Everyone has their own ideas. Ask as many questions as you can & then make your decission on what you are comfortable with.
Hope this gives you a little more insight.

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RE: Math question - 11/4/2003 10:20:55 PM   
remten2001


 

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Status: offline 		Well today i wen to the bike shop and grab one gallon of AMSOIL synthetic oil....not cheap oil.....Good quality...I have seen testing results from different oil manufacturers and they measure the parts for wear and the parts with the less wear on in was the one that was running AMSOIL synthetic oil in it.....

But now i have another freaking problem with the mixing....On the back it show the mixing for 50 to 1 use 2.5 ounces of oil for one US gallon.....For a 25 to 1 ratio is it 1.25 ounces for 1 us gallon?

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RE: Math question - 11/5/2003 1:15:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		stop!!! you would need to double the oil amount. 5.12 fliud oz per 1 US gallon will be 25:1

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RE: Math question - 11/5/2003 2:40:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've noticed that some of the 2-cycle oil, such as Lucas High Temp Racing Oil (semi-synthetic low ash), has a chart on the back of the bottle with "ounce" measurment markings on the side. Opti-2 has measurements in both US gallons and liters. There is also a "mix mizer" by FloTool which looks like a hypo needle with liter measurement markings. And there is also a cone measurement device that you can poor oil into to get the right mix per gallon/liter. No math involved, only a little reading--at the gas pump (1 gallon) and on the bottle (choose your gasoline-to-oil ratio).

One bottle I have has the following:
1 gallon of gasoline -
16:1 = 8 oz. of oil.
24:1 = 5 oz.
32:1 = 4 oz.
40:1 = 3 oz.
50:1 = 2.75 oz.

BTW, I use Red Line synthetic oil, ATF, gear lube, and Water Wetter in my vette. The second link compares lots of oils including Red Line and Mobil 1.
http://www.redlineoil.com/
http://www.vtr.org/maintain/lubricants-redline.html

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RE: Math question - 11/5/2003 2:54:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		go here and print it out. its a oil mixture chart.

Mixture Chart

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RE: Math question - 11/5/2003 3:05:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		That chart would have been helpful from the very beginning. Thanks.

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RE: Math question - 11/5/2003 3:27:32 PM