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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/13/2003 3:37:40 PM   
    Deandome



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    For the $300 price difference between the Maxx & the ofna Twin Tiatn, you could equip your max with all new RPM stuff (arms, towers, knuckles), a set of AL bulkheads AND steel CVDs. And twin mills sounds like a royal pain. It's hard enough keeping ONE nitro engine running & in tune, two would be a nightmare, as would rebuilding them after they wear out.

    All this talk about "thousands of $$$" of upgrades being needed is ridiculous. I will only be upgrading AS NEEDED, and after 2 gallons, the only things getting really beat up are the body & body mounts. I can see how some nice $60-70 shocks would be nice, especially after I get my jumping honed a bit more.

    And per the post with all the mag quotes....OFNA has at LEAST double the ad page count of Traxxas in every mag, so whhy aren't they sucking up to them? And Traxxas DOES have amazing instructions, both the manual and the DVD. This is a huge plus.

    The whole "T-Maxx breaks if you blow on it" crap that's spewed here is getting old. It can take a beating, maybe not as well as the bigger, slower trucks, but it's a well designed truck, shich is why aftermarket companies like UE use that design. Why not just engineer a new truck? Because the suspension design is GREAT, that's why!

    Dean

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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/13/2003 7:35:00 PM   
    Threat2U


     

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    Not to mention Traxxas has had their "Twin Titans" out for years.

    Oh! Don't believe me, go look under the hood of any E-maxx.

    It's RTR for $319. Quite the saving. Ofna couldn't even think up an original name.
    They must be trying to capitalize on all that Traxxas hype.. LOL.

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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/13/2003 10:11:33 PM   
    The Boss



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    SOME, LOL of you guys can sit there and just justify the t maxx to yourselfs ALL you want lol, (spin, twist, change the facts all you want to make yourselfs feel better) but!. The FACT is the industry/products have changed and now there are MUCH BETTER PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET.

    The point was... to try and turn a t maxx into a 8scale machine VS just buying one, so WHATS YOUR BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK! DOH!

    ANYONE!, that comes into this hobby thinking, "I only want to spend $400.00 and not/never a cent more... should NOT BE IN THIS HOBBY! DOH!!! LOL, hobbys cost money!!!, AGAIN... the issue is how do you get the most bang for your buck and value for your money!.

    I said before... "I like the new t-maxx and I think it is a good beginers entry level truck for some one that is just getting into the hobby"... BUT!,BUT!,BUT!,... you know what!!!... with new RTR kits like the SAVAGE .25 for basicly the same cost!!! as a t maxx, it makes it VERY hard to say..."the t maxx is a good beginers truck"... BECAUSE (bang for the buck wise or value for your money wise), the .25 RTR SAVAGE is a far BETTER DEAL!!! then any t maxx... and ALL YOU guys that MUST have upgrades...can upgrade the SAVAGE to your harts content because there is also a TON of stuff for this kit too.

    For those of you guys that are still saying / justifying to yourselfs that a t maxx is better then having a .25 rtr Savage $415.00, Titan Deluxe $475.00, and the TWin Titan RTR for $715.00 http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFJB9&P=7 ...OK lol

    I really love this pic and I don't think I could say it any better then this lol j/k

    T MAXX IS THE BEST...T MAXX IS THE BEST


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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/13/2003 10:51:52 PM   
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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/13/2003 11:21:04 PM   
    bubbafien


     

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    look, seriously, i am totally unbiased. ask anyone that was here before RCU made thier change, i did not like the savage and they swore by it. so i bought a savage so that i was not simply arguing for the sake of arguing. my point is this, before i make an opinion i do some research and TRY and get some EXPERIENCE of what i am talking about.

    rc solutions is not better than UE
    rpm is not better than UE
    acncm is not better than UE...

    they are very good companies and i respect that but i am facing the facts. UE is simply better. BUT if you are looking for a stock plastic replacement then rpm is good. if al. their UE their widetrack kit is $170. it includes (all out of 7075) shock towers, arms, titanium turnbuckles, HD rodends, and fasteners. that is better than any company out.

    this is the last you will here from me as this is a never ending argument

    bubbafien

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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/13/2003 11:32:19 PM   
    The Boss



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    You know bubba, some of you remind me of guys that still have 8track stereos lol or those cell phones that you had to carry around with a suite case for them to work lol or model T fords lol, or Atari video game systems lol or Xerox Alto computers lol or Record players lol, or cloth diapers... things change, move on... or get left behind lol.

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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/14/2003 12:20:45 AM   
    tjmaxx


     

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    You guys sound like babies saying the T-maxx is the worst mt ever. I dont see how you guys get that. I have like 1200 dollars into my T-maxx but most of it is because I wanted to upgrade not cause I had to. The only things I had to do was I had to get a new engine head on it when I was running the 2.5 my fault stripped the stock one. I also cracked a bulkhead brace. I had to get a new engine because my 2.5 went my fault cause I ran it to lean. So really all I had to put into it was 10 dollars. I bash my T-maxx pretty hard so I know how strong they are. I like the Savage and I have no doubt that it is a strong mt, but I have seen them break to and not take to much to break them. It all matters how cold or how hard you hit somethin. If you are a good driver you should be fine. My friend has a Savage and has put more money into it than I have put into my T-maxx not because he had to, some of the things he might of had to, but mostly because he wanted to and I think he would have done it with any truck. I woulda upgraded any truck I got because I think it is fun.

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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/14/2003 12:37:10 AM   
    The Boss



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    quote:

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    I have like 1200 dollars into my T-maxx



    Do you think your $1200.00 .15 engined t maxx will beat a factory built $700.00 TWIN .26 engined TITAN???. What do you think you will get for your .15 engined $1200.00 t maxx if you (TRY) to sell it... considering you can buy BRAND NEW RTR TWIN .26engined TITAN for $700.00 ???... KNOCK,KNOCK... ANYBODY HOME???

    Or is this to much for you to think about??? lol

    http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFJB9&P=7

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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/14/2003 1:24:52 AM   
    G1GY


     

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    Realy original pic Threat2U! Where did you come up with that great idea?

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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/14/2003 1:42:37 AM   
    G1GY


     

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    To "TheMachine":
    You said: " You still don`t get it do you ! The one main point that you choose to overlook is that when people want to run thier t-max hard they MUST buy upgrades, because it will continually break....its not a "choice" it IS a "Requirement". "

    No I don't believe you, it is not a requirement. If that were true T-maxx would have died like the Terra Crusher.
    Also if reliability was an issue I think that any one of the below listed articles might have pointed it out instead of praised the little rtr truck.
    Also, I did not "choose" to overlook your "point", its just not there to be seen because it simply not correct.

    ....

    “Traxxas redefined the world of nitro-powered monster trucks with the introduction of the T-Maxx.” - R/C Car Action Magazine, November 2002

    “…one of the most significant vehicles in the history of the R/C hobby, the T-Maxx 2.5!” - R/C Car Magazine, December 2002

    “The Traxxas box claims that the truck will hit 40-plus mph. They were being modest.” - R/C Car Magazine, December 2002

    “Without exaggerating, I say this Traxxas engine has the most linear throttle action I have ever run-period. It’s powerband seems limitless and it spools effortlessly to a top speed of nearly 45mph.” - R/C Nitro Magazine, December 2002

    "The new TRX 2.5 engine is everything it is hyped-up to be and then some. Once the general public gets to see just how fast the new truck is, they will quickly forget about wishing for a big block .21." - R/C Car Magazine, December 2002

    “As the leader in ready-to-run nitro, Traxxas also aimed for maximum convenience with an all-new goof proof electric starting system and a comprehensive manual that sets a new standard for RTRs.” - R/C Nitro Magazine, December 2002

    “The TRX 2.5 T-Maxx manual deserves recognition for being the best in the industry. The term 'manual' doesn't really do it justice; it's more like a 'getting started in nitro' book!” - R/C Car Action Magazine, September 2003

    “…the T-Maxx’s new full-color, amply illustrated instruction book is a vital part of the performance package. The manual also includes a glossary of terms, to help nitro newcomers speak the “language.” Of course, the instructions also precisely cover even the simplest steps required to get the new Maxx from the box to the backyard, so even the complete novice can feel confident about his first run.” - R/C Car Action Magazine, November 2002

    “The T-Maxx instructions have to be the best we have ever laid eyes on.” - R/C Nitro Magazine, April 2003

    “Traxxas now includes a DVD with each of its 2.5-powered vehicles. Kit videos have been done before but the Traxxas vid is by far the best in terms of production and depth of information. Watching this DVD endures that even a rank beginner will be successful the first time out.” - R/C Car Action Magazine, February 2003

    “Every RTR should be as easy as the new T-Maxx to get running.” - R/C Car Magazine, December 2002

    “The first thing you’ll notice is how smoothly the drivetrain operates.” - R/C Car Action Magazine, February 2003

    “The truck has spawned more than 130 fan websites and at least 70 aftermarket companies that create accessories for it. It even has its own racing class!” - R/C Car Action Magazine, November 2002

    “The TRX 2.5 and its all-new support hardware are the focal points of the next generation T-Maxx. This engine smashes the mold of the typical RTR engine, using high quality components to produce incredible power and speed. It's a total package that is unique and likely rivals even the highest performance small blocks." - R/C Car Action Magazine, November 2002

    “The T-Maxx consistently launched itself like a caged animal with its front wheels raised, and it accelerated at an impressive rate. The high-revving engine and tall gearing got it to the finish line first every time.” - R/C Nitro Magazine, April 2003

    “The incredible TRX 2.5 engine...pumps out enough power to shame many "sport" big-block engines. The R/C Nitro dyno-test confirmed more than 1hp (1.33 to be exact) from the mighty mill, and it has no trouble pushing the T-Maxx past 40mph - and that's with electric starting!"- R/C Car Action Magazine, September 2003


    “The TRX 2.5 is an all new design from the ground up. It is intended to produce Maximum power from a small block platform and for a reasonable price. Starting with a clean slate allowed Traxxas to incorporate numerous performance-enhancing features to ratchet the power output up beyond most other small blocks. It’s simply a superior all-around engine that will be tough to beat, even with certain big blocks.”

    “There’s no other way to say this: The TRX 2.5 rocks- plain and simple. It makes world-class power and I’d install it in any race car… It’s a combination of all the right ingredients and superior engineering and is sure to be attractive to the power hungry.”

    “The TRX 2.5 blows away every other small block engine we’ve tested.”

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    gaytor8: Only one thing, your POS combo mill lathe drill is on castors. (Ask a machinist to explain that to you).


    Threat2U

    I detect the kind of glaring logical inconsistencies in your 'reasoning' that only botched frontal lobotomy patients with crisscrossed shoelace scars on their sloped foreheads are capable of making.


    Have any idea who has spent most of their advertising dollars in these mag's? Do you realy think that a mag is going to say their main advertiser's product is a POS? Do you think these magazines are bibles and the words are written by prophit's or something? No ! they are written by guy's just like you. (And just maybe some even a little more stunned....just maybe.)

    BTW the milling machine/Lathe combo machine has levelling legs under it tard! (The castors are just for moving it from point A - B.)

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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/18/2003 7:43:01 PM   
    WS7er


     

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    I'll back you up babba. I love ue products. The strongest out there. I started out with a t-maxx. I ran it stock for 2 years and had absolutly no problems with it. The best part of the t-maxx is you can turn it into anything you want. A racemaxx, basher, road raccer, ect. The fun of the hobby is inproving stuff and upgrading. It would be boring havin the same exact truck for a year. Also, with all ofna RTR's, you have to replace the engine and radio systen because they are junk. I have a hyper 7 and I know for fact the hyper .21 and the force .25 is junk. They have airleaks, run horrably, and arn't fast and ton't have much torque. The stock radio system with the RTR ofna trucks are junk. I'v had 3 runaways with it already and you have to replace all the servos. I had to spend over $700 to make my buggy close to the performance of anyothe truck or buggy.(the t-maxxes were going faster than it with the stock engine) With the dom, after like a gallon with a good engine(to make it perform somewhat close to a t-maxx), the cvds snap like twigs, the diffs start blowing. Also to add, can your dom. jump 50+ feet without breaking?

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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/19/2003 1:09:22 AM   
    The Boss



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    I'll back you up babba. I love ue products. The strongest out there. I started out with a t-maxx. I ran it stock for 2 years and had absolutly no problems with it. The best part of the t-maxx is you can turn it into anything you want. A racemaxx, basher, road raccer, ect. The fun of the hobby is inproving stuff and upgrading. It would be boring havin the same exact truck for a year. Also, with all ofna RTR's, you have to replace the engine and radio systen because they are junk. I have a hyper 7 and I know for fact the hyper .21 and the force .25 is junk. They have airleaks, run horrably, and arn't fast and ton't have much torque. The stock radio system with the RTR ofna trucks are junk. I'v had 3 runaways with it already and you have to replace all the servos. I had to spend over $700 to make my buggy close to the performance of anyothe truck or buggy.(the t-maxxes were going faster than it with the stock engine) With the dom, after like a gallon with a good engine(to make it perform somewhat close to a t-maxx), the cvds snap like twigs, the diffs start blowing. Also to add, can your dom. jump 50+ feet without breaking?


    Well your post makes about as much sence as bubba's LOL . I don't think you have been in the hobby for very long lol . Force engine's come in many diffrent rtr and kits from many diffrent companys and they are one of the most popular engines, so if there was any truth to your fantasy most guys would not be running there kits. As far as the radio's go LOL What are you saying... that the factory t maxx radio is better that a brand name radio system LOL. the factory Radio shack radio system that comes with the Traxxass kit is a the bottom of the pile as far as any type of quality radio system is concerned lol.

    I can GAURENTEE that no matter how far a DOM can jump, it can jump farther thhan a t maxx and even... STAY IN ONE PEICE... unlike a t maxx lol

    The sad thing that I am finding is that the people that seem to defend this t maxx product the most, seem to be the people that know very little (the least) about other R/C products or R/C's for that matter, the worst thing a person could do is take advise from a person that does not know the facts/products.

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    RE: TO T MAXX OR NOT TO T MAXX...that is the question - 11/19/2003 1:55:16 AM   
    bubbafien


     

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    the worst thing a person could do is take advise from a person that does not know the facts/products. said by gaytor...

    so then why do people listen to you...

    the 'fien
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