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RE: Building a runway - 2/8/2005 12:23:15 AM   
daveopam



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Status: offline 		I also would not use the spikes. we did use them because we didn't know any better but they are not needed. The staples we used are called "turf staples". They are 6" long and 2" across the crown. The staples around the edge are spaced about 4" and the seams are spaced 2". I will post a pic when I am home.

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RE: Building a runway - 2/8/2005 4:21:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		We have something extremely familiar, but it was free. I'm not quite sure where it came from, but I beleive it might be a paper mill that uses a woven fabric for their conveyor belt material. The stuff is very wide and long (don't know exact measurements) and we nailed it down with spikes and washers.

The factory that gave us the material was happy to do so; you should give a call in your area.

We also use it for both the pits and the runway. Ours lasted a very long time (10 years?) and we just now received more material since the current one is getting rather old.

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RE: Building a runway - 2/8/2005 11:46:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hee is a pic of one seem. The darker areas show how much overlap we used. The seam with the staples close together is the end joint. The other is of course the side to side. Our complete job used 7,000 staples. That is for a 45'x500 runway& a 12'x200 ramp with three 12'x50' taxi ways.



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RE: Building a runway - 2/15/2005 2:03:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		This fabric idea is awesome...typical brillian RC ingenuity. Anyway, do you guys think it would be any good for an "on-road" outdoor track for RC cars? Seems like you could cut the turns as needed and use lengths right off the roll for straights...

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RE: Building a runway - 2/15/2005 4:20:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think you would have a few problems. For one it is only as smooth as what's under it. It does stretch over the imperfections but can be bouncy at high speed. Second It is plastic. I don't know what kind of traction you will get. I don't have an RC car to try on ours or I would say for sure. Maybe somebody out there can do a test for you.


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RE: Building a runway - 2/15/2005 6:39:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did you guys just put the staples around the edges or did you put them in the field (middle) as well? If you put them in the mid, how often did you put them in (spacing)?

Also, I got a lot of different samples. Do you think the 2006 would work for the runway as well? It is a lot cheaper.

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RE: Building a runway - 2/15/2005 11:57:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		The picture I posted is one of the center seems. The material stretches so tightly the center seems are very important. You will get gaps if you dont use a good overlap with several staples.

We used two different grades mostly because of the UV(ultra violet) rating. I think the heavier stuff had a 90% UV and the lighter was 70%. We thought the sunlight was going to be the eventual end of the material. We are going on 5 years with no noticeable difference between the two so who knows. Also be sure to figure the price by the square foot. The lighter material is 12' wide and the other is 15' wide. There is still a price difference but it is not as great as it looks at first glance. Our runway is 43'x500'. Had we used the 2006 it would be 34'X500'. I would rather our runway be shorter than narrower. We rarley run off the end but some lands in the grass every time we fly.


David

Tom I have not forgoten you. I just have not been to the field.

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RE: Building a runway - 3/21/2005 8:34:31 PM   
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Thank you very much for a highly informative thread.

Our field is in northern Virginia and is located on land owned by the Boy Scouts of America. We run Aviation Merit Badge Clinics for the scouts and conduct training as a trade for the access and use of the land. The Boy Scout organization is upgrading the entire facility and will soon be relocating our flying site to a different part of the facility. As part of the deal, the contractor will do "some" (to be determined) of the field preparation - if we can get them the specifications of what we want.

Does anyone have any specifications that we can provide to the contractor regarding how to best prepare the site? What we are looking for is the "contractor lingo" that a contractor could use to grade, pack/roll, crown, etc. Anyone with some specific knowledge (that they would be willing to share) of what to tell a contractor how he needs to prep the dirt/to prepare a field would be greatly appreciated.

We think we would like to stay with grass, but that was before we found this site -- the Propex/Geotex material is awfully intriguing (we are having a hard time finding a replacement for our current field maintenance teamand the grass grows awfully fast in the Summer!). An asphalt or concrete runway is not an option as part of the charter that the Scouts have given us is that the land is to be able to be returned to a natural state." At least now we have an option to put a surfaced runway in place. Thanks again!

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RE: Building a runway - 3/22/2005 12:11:09 AM   
daveopam



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Status: offline 		Tom I wish I could give you the specific lingo. Our land is city owned. We told them we were going to put down pavement. This way we knew it would be packed and crowned correctly.
This matterial can be put down right on the grass. That is assuming the grass area is level and fairly smooth.


David

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RE: Building a runway - 3/22/2005 1:12:48 PM   
tomriddle



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Status: offline 		David,

Thank you. Actually, that may be a start - if we tell them that we want a road bed quality surface installed...there are certainly standards for that.

We got a nice write up in this month's AMA magazine about our Merit Badge Clinic program...if you are interested, look in the District Reports section for the Viginia District.

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