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bladebender -> WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/9/2003 1:24:31 AM)
IS ANY BODY FLYING ONE GIVE ME SOME INPUT, MOTORS SET UP, HOW DO THEY FLY .HAS ANY BODY PUT A GAS MOTOR IN ONE RICH

treees -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/18/2003 9:06:31 PM)
[;)]Great Flyer. Mine has a BME50CC. Came out 17 lbs with 1lb on the nose. The linkage on the elevator is pretty difficult to put in

Roll On 60 -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/19/2003 2:35:27 AM)
Mine has the recommended OS 160 for power and required 2 pounds of weight. It flies great and I really like it but it does have some problems. The retracts are the pits and the hold down plates and blocks are glued in with hot glue. I replaced the entire mess with Robart air and the hold down plate and blocks and glued in with epoxy. The contraption for the elevator is terrible, throw in the trash and use two carbon fiber push rods from 2 servos. Keep all weight as close to the front as possible. You can get a realistic pilot from Hanger 9 and paint it. The one that comes with the kit is a joke. If you use air retracts, you don't have to cut the hole in the TOP of the wing which IMHO is bad.The tires that come with the plane are very hard, replace them with good tires. Replaced the motor mount that the 160 fit. Replaced the decals with vinyl and that look a lot better.

whstlngdeath -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/19/2003 3:53:40 AM)
Man, for the money that they're asking for, that's a lot of replacing! Jesse

Meschmidt -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/19/2003 3:55:35 AM)
Powered mine with BME 2.7 (44cc) 19x10 menz ultra. 1-3/4 lb nose weight. Servos in tail (mistake!). Great flyer! Will put in Spring Airs and struts this winter. Did a lot of weathering and rivets with paint detail. Makes big difference on looks. Have been asked if it is a Ziroli Zero many times. Email for pictures. Paul

Ruskmn -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/19/2003 6:12:25 AM)
I fly mine with a G-38 and smoke. Love it! True, it does have a few weaknesses like the landing gear legs and tires, and the pilot. But unlike the other posters, I did not have any trouble with the elevator linkage and rather liked the whole set up. I did treat the pilot with some sandpaper and a paint job and got him looking a bit better. The best thing is how it flies and looks in the air. I figure it is a pretty cheap way to get into giant scale and it only took me a week to get it in the air.

whstlngdeath -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/20/2003 1:07:12 AM)
Can you guys post some pics of your Zeros? I am very interested in this model in spite of the little drawbacks with it. Does it come with a cockpit kit? Jesse

Roll On 60 -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/20/2003 2:23:14 AM)
No cockpit kit but a decal for the instrument panel. I added leather and some paint in the cockpit area in addition to the pilot I mentioned before. Helped the looks very much. I forgot to mention, use the silicone gromments that come with the canopy or you will be replacing it soon.

treees -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/20/2003 3:14:47 PM)
Here is a picture of mine[;)]

whstlngdeath -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/20/2003 10:59:23 PM)
Nice shot, treees. How does it fly? Any tip-stalling tendencies? Does it tend to snap when it stalls? Also, does it need some speed when landing? I have a Supertigre G4500 that needs a plane, would 2-stroke glow be a good choice? Thanks, Jesse

kidkadet -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/21/2003 5:42:35 PM)
Here is a picture of pauls zero at our recent fly in

treees -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/25/2003 8:36:01 PM)
Sorry for the delay. It flies verrrry slow. I could not get it stall. Everyone was afraid I would put it in. No bad tendencies except the landing gear. I stripped one of the servos out on a crosswind landing. No damage to the plane. I am putting in Spring Airs right now. Should fly again this weekend if the weather cooperates. I also replaced the pilot with one from GI Joe. I had to cut off the waist and legs but looks good. I will send pictures.

bladebender -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/30/2003 1:22:05 PM)
would like to here more about this plane started to work on mine this weekend .please let me know more about what retracts to get . If you have one with a gas motor please tell me more would love to see a picture of one with a bme or zdz 50. looked at mine pretty close and was wondering if I go with gas will this glass fuse hold together and do have to cut up this motor box much RICH

Roll On 60 -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (11/30/2003 3:04:40 PM)
Bladebender: The Zero is a very fine flying plane but there are several improvements that you may need to do. The retracts are glued in with hot glue and need to be cut out and glued properly. Replace the retracts with Robart air. The pilot is the pits but you can get one from Hanger 9 that is a Japanese pilot and it works well and looks correct. The spinner is also bad and can be replaced with a Tru Turn or equal. The hardware should be thrown in the trash and replaced with good stuff. The rig for the elevator is a master piece of junk and can be replaced with two carbon fiber rods from two servos. Make sure you use the silicone grommets on the cowl and the canopy. The canopy will break if you don't. The connections for the cowl is a really neat way to attach a cowl and should be followed. This plane flys very good on the OS 160 it was designed for but will take 2 pounds of weight to balance. This doesn't seem to affect the way it flies or lands. This is one of the best landing planes I have ever owned. Hope this helps.

plane crazy 2 -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (1/11/2004 4:21:18 PM)
Bladebender can you tell me what the part number for the robo struts? I'm changing the gear also. I put in a quadra 52, balanced out perfect. The weight came in at 17 and a half pounds so far and I'm going to add smoke to it too.

ebradlow -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (1/28/2004 12:50:43 PM)
i have a poulan 46cc conversion in mine swinging 22/8 dynathrust 30lbs pull from this prop plane 17lbs had to add 1lbs to the nose flys with athority lands like a cub love it if want pict would have to send them to you thrue email

Carlos Murphy -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (1/29/2004 4:49:07 AM)
My club prez fly's one with a Zen G 38 and smoke, great combo.

ticketec -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (1/29/2004 12:33:45 PM)
hey Meschmidt, What paint did you use for the detail? I've got the world models smaller cousin 60" span and want to add retail but suspect that paint will not stick well to the plastic it's covered with. The retracts in the 60" Zero are crap as well, as is the pilot which goes to show that sometimes they don't learn from their mistakes. Does the big cousin wag it's tail in turns? can't figure out why mine does, suspect overpowering... OS91 pumper

bonsia -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (1/31/2004 12:06:33 PM)
Buy some fiberglass resin,reinforce formers on fuse to strengthen.I have FUJI 50 for mine no nose weight needed.ROLL ON 60, which model Robaarts did you use?

Roll On 60 -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (1/31/2004 12:39:51 PM)
I used 630's with extra length struts. Really help the looks of the plene and do the job.

bonsia -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (1/31/2004 12:49:30 PM)
Thanks alot appreciate the info!!! bonsia

pettit -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (2/9/2004 2:51:07 PM)
In the March 2004 issue of Model Airplane News, the author forgot to update the weight as stated in the World Models web site. MAN seems to have just copied the wingspan, length and wing area values verbatim from the website, but the weight given by World Models is now 17 pounds. It used to be listed at 15.5 pounds, like what the MAN review says. Also noted was that no lead was needed to balance the Zero, and the retracts are not mentioned at all, good or bad. They're also not shown in any of the photos. I wonder why?

Roll On 60 -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (2/9/2004 4:04:33 PM)
They didn't mention the problems for the same reason other reviewers don't, money. The retracts are the pits and the method of hook up is terrible with a hole in the TOP of the wing for hook up. As stated before, the retract hold down plate and tri stock is glued in using hot glue. What a shame for this to happen to such a great looking plane. The weight is 17 pounds because of the two pounds of weight required if you use the engine the plane was designed for. This could have been avoided by entending the mounting box out another inch or so. This is what happens when you have poor quality control and testing is not done at the point of origin. To read the review, which I did, makes one want to run out and buy one NOW but thats the way reviews are.

pettit -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (2/9/2004 4:24:09 PM)
Give us a month or so. My WM Zero is supposed to be on the way now. I plan to use a G-38 and Century Jet Retracts, if necessary. The review will follow along in several months in our magazine.

Roll On 60 -> RE: WORLD MODELS 80in. ZERO (2/9/2004 7:14:48 PM)
I await your review. However, the plane was not built for a gas engine but for the OS 160 and of course the gasser is much heavier.

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