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This statement alone proves to me you are a troll.

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ORIGINAL: the troll

Sport_Pilot

FWIW I see your point and it is a valid point at that. It seems that there are a few small minded parrots here that will "play" the "troll card" or the "anonymity card" to deflect points made made others and attempt to polarize others to follow suit. I for one would appreciate a audible stall warning or airspeed indication device. It seems that the advent of such a device would be of a much better benefit than a speed limiter or fuel capacity restrictions. BTW that is my belief so there is no way I can be wrong!

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ORIGINAL: Jim Branaum

Nothing personal but some observations that are fairly negative to this idea. The idea probably will not work for a number of reasons.

First, there has to be some way to 'drive' the noisemaker you suggest so the required battery pack would add to the load. The mechanical system most GA planes use probably would not be very effective at the speeds some of these guys move around the sky with. You know, less than 10 knots.

Another issue is how far away you want to hear the noise and does that mean you get to ground others with loud planes so you can hear yours? That one can be a real show stopper at most flying fields making that type of modeler even less welcome. Not my idea of the right way to do things, but I could be wrong again.

Lastly, and probably most importantly is that ALL stall warning devices are airframe (design and build) SPECIFIC! This means SOMEONE would have to do a lot of math and testing for the noisemaker FOR EACH SPECIFIC model since we all build differently. That is unless you just wanted it to holler at uncontrolled times (VBG).

There are other reasons this probably is not high on the possible solution list, but I think by now you have gotten the idea.

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ORIGINAL: Jim Branaum

Bill,

You need to lower your level of paranoia as I am not attacking you but pointing out what I happen to see as flaws in your approach. I don't always allow 'merit' to sell what I believe are stupid ideas. Sorry if that offends you.

A GOOD pilot can tell you when his model has stalled by the control responsiveness changes. Recall earlier remarks about hand and eye coordination? All I have been trying to tell you is that the environment we have at the pilot's station is significantly different that the one from the pilot's seat of ANY rider scale bird. If you wish to throw lots of money away trying to solve a difficult problem that really does not need a solution, I am NOT going to stop you.

Most gyros respond to things other than airframe specific air loads which happens to be what stall warning devices address directly. I don't think your idea of a gain control will work for setting up a remote stall warning indicator, nor do I think many modelers who might need this weak crutch will have the ability necessary to make the correct adjustments as the device is moved from airframe to airframe. I view that issue as the show stopper, but you are clearly more intelligent than everyone else so go for it.

In other words, it is YOUR idea, so use your money and make it happen! You have defined the parameters of operation and the resources needed to make it work, so all the problems have been solved. Now, just go build and sell it!

When you build your wonderful solve all problems whiz bang, make sure that I can still hear my stall warning when Frank Flightpack is doing a low pass with his nitro piped Patriot and that I can move it from my pocket rocket over powered P-51 to my aerobatic birds without having to get another college education or help from some outside resource in setting it up. Figure out a way to do that and have me still welcome at the fields I visit and fly at, or expect to loose lots of money.

Those types of issues (how it can work for ALL everywhere) that most on the AMA EC try to address when the alleged 'battles' have occurred. That is why this IS germane to the thread.