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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 11/26/2003 3:02:31 PM   
Kurt P


 

Posts: 83
Joined: 7/25/2003
From: Aarschot, , BELGIUM
Status: offline 		My first crash, mmm about 15 years ago.
After a few months flying with my Progo ( Robbe ), I could fly very well--I thought!
So I can in for a landing, to high, so I decided to fly over and make a few rolls. Then it happened, I had one of the first bad interference between my brain and fingers. I didn't know what to do anymore, it kept rolling into the ground. Well after wards: it's only natural that a planes keeps rolling when the pilots keeps the stick in the corner !

Another thing now. When I read this post, I must say that there are unbelievable good pilots everywhere. One month or two flying, and these pilots are flying inverted at one feet, cuban 8, snap-rolls, rolling circles...
In the 15 year that I'm flying, I had a lot of students. And I must say, if a student can fly completely save on his own after 1 or 2 months, these is a big success. And than I'm only talking about taking off, flying around and a safe landing. I wish I had sometimes such a super student!

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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 11/26/2003 8:03:18 PM   
multicasting



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Joined: 9/22/2003
From: Dallas, TX, USA
Status: offline 		My first crash came on my second plane. No one really knows what that plane was. I bought it used. Some say it was a PT-40 but it had a 61 on the nose so I still don't know. Anyway, I am flying this thing all over the sky, I have been really getting the feel for it. Everything seems nice and routine. I was showing the capabilities tome friend when, in a powered dive, I pulled up hard at about 80 feet. There was this funny noise, and then the wing ejected from the fuselage. My friend just said "Oh Lordy". I couldn't stop laughing at what he said as I calmly shut down the engine and attempted to guide the dart to the grass with elevator and rudder.

We dug up the engine and now it is on it's third aircraft (since I bought it). Nice soft ground, and a full fuel tank acting as shock absorber (it popped) saved the radio and engine to fly another day.

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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 11/27/2003 2:48:42 AM   
Himoto Racing Canada



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Joined: 11/21/2002
From: Noyan, QC, CANADA
Status: offline 		Well i just done it last Sunday afternoon (23/11/2003) with my finally finshed and finally CG'ed correctly Skyward .40 trainer.

I live in an area that we cultivate lawn (turf) Lacolle Quebec Canada , and this is a very nice day at 8 deg celcieus , sunny almost no wind , and my flight instructor is not available !!!

I decide to go in my back yard and test fly my trainer question to see if my flight simulator training will pay off !

Get my plane started down the turf , 50 feet , 100 feet its up in the air woohoo my first take-off !!

Ok know after a good 500 ft of straight flying i got to turn cause their is some houses , nice gentle right hand turn and still climbing to about 250 ft high.

I start a descent and decide to pass in back of a really tall tree that is out in the middle of the field (it's a good 75 feet tall) and i cant judge to well if my plane is in front or in back of the tree ... it passes in back of the tree and the plane starts acting funny !!

I have a look at my radio .... damm my antenna is still in (btw i am a good 500 ft from my plane at this point) i rush to pull out the antenna in a desperate move to save my bird. When i let go of the controls my plane was still in a bankin turn. Darn it not enough time to gain control again and smack my left wing tip hit's the ground and then does a side cart wheel.

Here are some photo's of the damage ... it's going to be re-built and solidified.

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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 11/27/2003 6:16:28 AM   
Jimmbbo



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Joined: 10/1/2003
From: Fresno, CA, USA
Status: offline 		Have two categories of "first crash" - RC Sailplanes and RC Powered.

I flew RC sailplanes happily for a couple of years, causing more damage getting them to and from the flying field than flying.

My first sailplane crash was with a Soarcraft Libelle, a state of the art kit in the late '70s... Had spend a LOT of time building it and finishing it, and was extremely proud of it. Simultaneously, I built my own hi-start with a length of surgical tubing and nylon cord. Went to the park where we flew, and staked down the hi-start, took the slack out of it and handed it to a friend while I got the radio on and checked the glider.

Everything was fine, so told my buddy Steve to stretch the hi-start 20 paces, where I'd hook up the glider and launch. As he was walking back, Steve said "You know, this is feeling pretty tight", but I discounted his input because he had never pulled a hi-start, and 20 paces was a normal short pull.

I hooked on the glider and launched it. Well, it was a glider for only for the first three or four seconds, whereupon it became two wings and a fuselage flying in not-too-close formation - the wings fluttered uselslessy to the ground while the fuelage followed a 150 yard ballistic trajectory, bouncing for another 20 yards for a total flight of 170 yards. Seems the rubber I bought for the hi-start was about 1/32 thicker in wall thickness than the rubber I had used before.... Steve was right....


For my first powered crash, a full size flight student of mine who worked at the LHS and was a highly experienced RC pilot, convinced me to try a powered airplane. I agreed, with the condition he select an appropriate airplane and help me learn to fly it.

Tim chose a .19 powered first generation "Pilot" Japanese foam with shelf covering ARF. After a week's work, had the airplane ready. Took it to the local field, and Tim took the airplane up, flew it, tweaked it, flew it again and pronounced it airworthy...

Experiencing more anxiety than I had expected, I taxied the airplane out and advanced the throttle for takeoff and lifted off rather smoothly, IMHO

To get the feel of the airplane, I took it out a ways and bumbled around till I thought I could control it, and returned for a low pass traffic pattern. I entered a right downwind, turned base and maneuvered the airplane successfully (if not too smoothly) onto final when I caught sight of another airplane out of the corner of my eye flying the opposite direction FAST. Unfortunately, my full size airplane instincts took over and without thinking, I rolled right and pulled back, avoiding the oncoming traffic and completing the prettiest half split-S you ever saw, terminating nearly vertical at ground level... Needless to say there was little remaining of the mostly foam airplane...

I was more than a little ticked, mostly at my gross newby overreaction, when Tim came over, put his hand on my shoulder and asked "Should I get the Hobby Rake or do you just want to leave it buried?"

Jim

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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 11/27/2003 6:58:13 AM   
Rumva



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Joined: 4/17/2003
From: Pleasant Hill, IA, USA
Status: offline 		hmm first crash... electric - one of those HobbyZone’s Firebird Commander - just starting out...learned that a wall of railroad ties, wind over 5mph and this eplane dont mix - hehehe - was easier to get new one than to see about fixing...

then was my 1st solo on superstar rtf 40 - didnt have enough speed and climbed to quickly at end of strip - basically stalled and i over compensated..not much damage - had to repair front of fuse and replace motor mount..other than that been good to me for the last 2 years.

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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 11/27/2003 7:22:21 AM   
MikeEast



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Joined: 10/18/2003
From: Nederland, TX, USA
Status: offline 		My 1st crash was 2 days ago. 2nd plane,

U CAN DO .60 about 5 days old. DANG I am still frustrated about this, such a freak thing.

Made my 6th flight with this plane, been flying for 2 months total.

Absolutley perfect flight takeoff to landing. Then the trouble started. Made a 180 in the runway and taxied back to the middle of the runway. Reached over the throttle stick to hit the kill/trainer switch on my 9C and accidentally bumped the throttle. Plane lept forward about 10' and drilled the PVC protective barrier about 1' from the end of the right wing. The impact caved in 2 ribs from the leading edge to the 1st spar. The torque, which I found odd, sheared off the wing bolt on the opposie side and flexed the fuselage so much it popped open the sheeting on the fuselage in 3 places beneath the canopy. Broke loose some of the framework in the fuselage from the firewall to the back of the canopy. Fortunately things broke in place so I just realigned them and epoxied all of the breaks. Pushed the fuse sheeting back in place and gave it a little CA to hold it in place. Replaced the ribs that were broken in the wing by the collision and am ready to recover everything tomorrow. Looks like I got lucky, and if I do a good job of recovering, no one will ever be able to tell it happened. Im just surprised that the damage was so widesweeping across the airframe. The plane wasnt going fast at all.

The only thing I can figure is that the wing damage was wrapped around the pvc pipe and when the prop caught in the plastic fencing it sortof pulled the nose of the plane and the tip of the right wing towards each other enough to bend the fuselage and pop everything loose?? I dunno, as I said in another forum. I hope I dont miss any hidden critical damage.

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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 12/3/2003 8:52:33 PM   
antman450


 

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Joined: 11/20/2003
From: Aliso Viejo, CA,
Status: offline 		My first crash was on Saturday of last week.

I just bought my first plane. It was a Worlds Star 40 and the only other time i flew was 12 years ago on a buddy box for like 30 minutes. I finished building the Worldstar on Thanksgiving and went to the field on Friday. Asked for some help, which I got plenty of and within 15 minutes I learned how to take off and land and was soloing. I continued to do touch and goes all day long with no incident.

Come Saturday morning on my second flight of the day, i got overconfident and was flying too low when the plane got away from me and dove straight into the ground. A huge thud and a big puff of dirt later and the plane was in peices. So that day I bought a used big stik 60 from a guy at the field, including motor.

Next day, i flew all day with no problems and started doing some moves in the air, then at the end of the day.....dead stick. Tried to bring it in, but it tip stalled and broke the wings and the tail pretty bad. Both planes are getting fixed right now,

I bought a 3rd plane yesterday. An ultra stik 60 and will be flying it Saturday. I am putting hte TT 60 in there and man i hope my luck changes a bit.

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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 12/3/2003 9:45:21 PM   
MTT



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Joined: 1/18/2002
From: West Chester, OH, USA
Status: offline 		My first crash ? Man, that's too long ago....... Can't remember....


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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 12/27/2003 9:54:36 AM   
planebuilder66



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Joined: 11/6/2003
From: Mystic, CT, USA
Status: offline 		About 14 years ago, I was flying my eagle II and I had been at it all day. It was getting late and I looked at the almost empty gallon jug on the ground and said "just enough for one last flight ", so I fuel up the remaining 10 ozs. of fuel and fire it up, taxi out, think of all the touch and go's I'll be doing and hit the throttle! The plane takes off so smooth and looks so good!; but one problem, I have nothing! She made the most beautiful arc I've ever seen and then it flew full throttle right into the ground, all I can say is it was a balsa mushroom cloud with bits flying across the service road like shrapnel. Later I found out that I had flown the rx battery dead and used all the remaining juice on take off. My only question for you guys is how many times have you crashed right after saying " Just enough time for one more flight! "

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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 12/27/2003 10:42:55 PM   
Balsa



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Joined: 1/4/2003
From: Carlisle, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline 		It was about 2 years ago, in the middle of the F&M Crisis , a bloke who worked for DEFRA was in the area overseeing the slaughter of cattle in the local area, and was at CDMAC every week for little over a month.
I was learing to fly at the time and offered the tranny over to him, after a couple of circuits to get used to the aircraft i asked him to do, some aero's which he duly did, then, all of a sudden, the aircraft went into a spiral dive and....CRACK! that was the last of that, the aircraft had gone in hard enough to snap the alloy engine bearers.
Luckily the crash was niether the man from DEFRA nor my fault, as it turned out that the wal charger was infact at fault, and that my TX NiCad had effectively not been charged for weeks.

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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 12/28/2003 1:22:56 AM   
Ozprey


 

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From: WollongongNSW, AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		My first crash was with my alphabet(rundder ,elevator ,motor controls) trainer,given to me, as i doubted my wallet(well, not mine, my parents). it was powered by a S400 motor running through a mini olympus gearbox(2:3.3). it was about my 5th flight,before this time i'd been working one stick at a time, and my instructor said "here" and handed me the whole set. well, i freaked a bit but he said i did well. after ther BEC cut in, steve(my instrctor) landed, and i went and charged the flight pack. Steve got the plane up again, and handed over the set. just as i was building up my confidence, i accidentaly overcorrected for the rudder and she stalled and went into a bit of i dive. i handed back to steve, who pulled back on the elevator, and then with an almighty crack, the spar on one side of the wing gave up the ghost, and a spectacular wing fold resulted in my dear little trainer nose diving into a blackberry bush. all i could get working again was the gaerbox and one GWS naro max servo. the plane was rebuildable, but i was told that a simmilar amount of time/effort could be spent biulding another one. so that took up 3 months. and now the weather is awful, but my original(lou) tutor has reuned from a holiday in Italy, and i am flying when the weather permits. here is a pic of me with the new trainer and a pic of me with my tutor(steve)[image][/image]

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RE: Your first crash? I want to hear about it... - 12/28/2003 1:50:27 AM   
O2man



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Joined: 4/5/2003
From: Selah, WA, USA
Status: offline 		First crash? I was 10 and my father had been promising to help me get my new Cox U/C Cub in the air. He kept putting me off, so I took the bull by the horns and got my buddy to help. Got it into the air for about 3-4 linear feet and possibly a whole 6-8 feet in the air before stalling it in on it's nose. I caught what for from my father because I think he was expecting to give me lots of demonstration flights, meaning he wanted to fly it himself. l never flew it again.

Second crash? I was 50 and my Son-in-law to be had been flying RC fow 10 years and got quite good at it. We went to the flying field with some friends where he took his favorite bird up. This was his own design (he's a mechanical engineer) and he had built it three separate times, this being the lightest and best performing version of what he calls the K(inetic) E(nergy). While he started flying, I got my bird set up. When I turned on my reciever I was puzzled by the action of the control surfaces of by Aircore 40 Trainer. They seemed to all be trembling or spastic or something. Being a very focused person and wanting to solve something for myself for a change, I decided to turn on my transmitter. This seemed to help, but ju