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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 6/2/2004 1:05 AM

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Read post below. Thanks

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 6/2/2004 1:06 AM

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Has anyone added ailerons to the badius with the flat wing? I have both wings and have only flown with the poly wing. I want to try to fly her soon with the flatter wing and see how she goes. I plan to add ailerons and eliminate the rudder control servo for weight.
Any thoughts on this?
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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 6/17/2004 1:12 AM

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Does anybody still have the instructions for the Accipiter Badius?
I just got one off of ebay and there weren't any with it.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 6/17/2004 1:48 AM

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WOW! I thought this thread was dead!

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 6/17/2004 9:47 PM

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the instructions are not very good - pidgeon chinese english. i suggest you put the wings and tail on, charge the battery and aviate !! don't forget to put some tape on over the wing joining holes and leading edge if you're going to be doing some crashing and put some superglue around the holes where the wing goes into the fuselage as this tends to rip. good luck

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 6/18/2004 12:59 AM

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Send me your email address and I'll send BMP copies of the instructions.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 6/18/2004 1:02 AM

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I flew this plane and crashed it and broke the wing a long time ago. This was way before I got good at flying with my slow stick. Is this plane worth buying a new wing for it and fixing the tail?

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 6/18/2004 1:11 AM

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I crashed mine too before i learned to fly. it sat for months while i flew my aerobird. I bought a new wing and tail for it and tried again. This time it flew really well. It was a really good flyer and it could glide forever but, its not meant for aerobatics.
it would be worth it to get new wings for it.. Mine is in permannent retirement.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 6/18/2004 1:13 AM

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im thinking about geting a 3D flyer?? Is that the best of elextric flying? a brushless 3d setup?

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 6/30/2004 5:20 PM

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hey y'all. ive had my accipiter for a few months and it has been a ride. when i first got it, i had NO experience. i flew it alright, had a few minor crashes breaking the wings, then got better. then i came to this forum and read about how it helps to tape the wings and cutting the elevator and rudder and taping them back. that worked amazingly well. then i began to want something more out of the plane so i decided to make alierons. i cut the back of the wings and taped them back like the rudder and elevator, and moved the servos around back of the wings and on top. then i extended the servo arm with a paper clip to make it have a larger moving area. then i made some control rods for the wings, attached them and flew. first time it was back heavy. i put my mini cam on it, making its COG move forward, and it works good now, turning is unbelievable! only problem is it is under powered now. im gonna get a new motor from ebay and install that and hopefully ill have a he-- of a plane. im thinking the 400 size. do you think that will be strong enough? i think everyone should make these mods. heres some pics of my beauty.... the hole behind the servos is for a smoke bomb. they are pretty cool when you do loops and stuff.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/1/2004 1:04 AM

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wow. very interesting. looks great.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/1/2004 11:28 PM

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Greetings to all!!
I am a begginer in RC Planes and all my "experience" resumes in a few minutes with a gas-powered "old" plane borrowed from a friend. I was very excited when found out about the electric planes and am very interested in buying one. That´s how I´ve found you.

As far as I can see, the "Accipiter Badius" seems to be an affordable plane for a begginer like me, easy to fly, simple to assemble (thanks in advance for the tips about the wings!), and with an attractive price.

The only doubt I have is about buying via Internet. I´ve found a site ("www.egrabdbuy.com") which advertises the AB at US$ 82,00. The problem is that in the same page I see other models (more expensive), but with the same contents in text and pictures.

Does anyone knows "egrandbuy"? Can I order the plane and be sure I will receive what I have ordered? I live in Brasil and have a brother in Canada. He is coming to visit us next month, so I was planning to buy the plane on the Internet, have it delivered to his home address (no shipping fees) and make him bring it to me. The shipping fee to Brasil exceeds US$ 50,00!!!

I´ve tried to contact "egrandbuy" but they seem to be not so friendly... Answers with few words, without the confirmation that what they advertise is really what they sell...

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
I´m lloking forward to learn to fly this plane and have many moments of fun...
Bets regards to all,
Rubens

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/2/2004 2:07 AM

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check out rc expert in hong kong. they sell the badius for about $84 + postage is only $20 anywhere in the world. quite quick too. i bought my first badius from raidentech and it was a few dollars cheaper, but the postage (i live in japan) was over $60. raidentech have a good line in spares, very cheap, but again the postage is a rip off. rc expert also have a good line in spares, but a bit more expensive. happy aviating !!

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/2/2004 4:43 AM

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Egrandbuy is fine

. If I remember right, they also sell on Ebay and have a good record but maybe charge a bit high for shipping (lately a lot of sellers are selling at reasonable prices but you've got to watch shipping charges - with $20-25 being charged where actual postage is more like $5-8).

Ebay is a great place to get a Badius (that's where I got mine for about $55 + $20 shipping). Why not have your brother see what he can do there, have it shipped to him as you suggested. If he stays away from the high shipping charges, he may get you a really good deal.

P.S. - sure the Badius is what you want ? As a beginner I'd take a look at some of the GWS planes/systems. They produce inexpensive planes and several are specific for beginners (like the Etrainer - a bit more difficult to assemble than the Badius. Or the SlowStick - very easy to build and fly). You would have to buy the radio system separate from the plane but they have a radio package called the Dream Starter which is also relatively cheap. Overall cost might be a bit higher but the poer train and radio gear you'll get is much better than what comes with the Badius.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/2/2004 10:56 PM

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Thanks a lot for your answer. I was kind of scared if egrandbuy was an "unknown" company. What really made get "a flea under my ear" was the advertising of a white Accipiter Badius for US$ 82 (pivtures of a white plane, in the box) and another yellow AB, for US$ 85,00, but when entering the link... The same pictures of the white AB in the box... ??? And US$ 3,00 in difference...

Is the Accipiter equipped with any kind of landing gear or is it just a "landing glider"? I also liked the hint about taping the wings, to strenghten its "structure"... Will do.

Those other links show some really good-looking planes, and the prices were very good also! But unfortunatelly the shipping fees, combined with the kit, exceeds by far the US$ 82,00 proposed by egrandbuy... I really liked the Piper Cub and the Air Strike models, but... $$$$

Anyway, I have seen some homemade changes to the AB, like the ailerons implemented, with the servos out of the plane´s body, so I believe I could implement some kind of landing gear, with a small "steering wheel" at the rudder.

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Rubens

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Egrandbuy is fine . If I remember right, they also sell on Ebay and have a good record but maybe charge a bit high for shipping (lately a lot of sellers are selling at reasonable prices but you've got to watch shipping charges - with $20-25 being charged where actual postage is more like $5-8).

Ebay is a great place to get a Badius (that's where I got mine for about $55 + $20 shipping). Why not have your brother see what he can do there, have it shipped to him as you suggested. If he stays away from the high shipping charges, he may get you a really good deal.

P.S. - sure the Badius is what you want ? As a beginner I'd take a look at some of the GWS planes/systems. They produce inexpensive planes and several are specific for beginners (like the Etrainer - a bit more difficult to assemble than the Badius. Or the SlowStick - very easy to build and fly). You would have to buy the radio system separate from the plane but they have a radio package called the Dream Starter which is also relatively cheap. Overall cost might be a bit higher but the poer train and radio gear you'll get is much better than what comes with the Badius.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/3/2004 3:30 AM

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Sounds like you've made up your mind

So run with it !

You still might try eBay to get the best price

Since the Badius is a glider, light weight is desireable and taping up the wings defeats this to an extent but for a newby, I'd say tape them. The added strength is probably well worth the slight increase in weight. Ailerons sounds good but it's added weight again - maybe you could eliminate the rudder and use that servo for the ailerons (?).

There is no landing gear, again that was apparently sacrificed to reduce weight. A folding prop is provided to reduce broken props when landing (altough I understand it's still a high mortality item). So adding a tail wheel ........... ??? There is also a problem with the plane being a bit tail heavy and a tail wheel would aggravate the problem. See the notes in some of the forums on adding nose weights to compensate.

Although I have mine and it is built, I'm going to tape my wings (I'm not too proficient as a pilot

) before I put it in the air. I've busted enough trainers on the first flight to still play it a little safe.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/3/2004 6:38 AM

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My Badius has over 40 successful flights but I have learned some things:

The control surfaces had to be cut/taped, you want as much throw as you can, especially when the motor cuts out. Don't worry about down elevator though, mine never needs much except to level out the climb into a strong wind.

The CG was very tail-heavy, I run a wireless video system onboard and found the 9 volt battery taped in place over the main battery works great. A bit heavy though for the wing area and lack of power.

I always wait for a 5 mph wind minimum for launch. Without it you will always eat ground with any added weight.

I have two battery packs, I have about 6 minute full power flights on 3 hour charges. They do get hot, never leave them unattended...

I have also experienced the motor cut-off problem on occasion, it sputs a little here and there, could be loose ant. cable, but I have never lost radio signal even when the plane is a tiny spec straight up. It hasn't caused a crash yet.

Only serious crash was the radio signal got hit by a CB possibly. at 100 ft. it went into a dive, pretty much no control. Luckily straight into a soft grassy field. Nothing a little packing tape couldn't fix. I wish these radios were running 72 mhz...

One more thing, be careful not to pull any G's, the main wing will fold just like the prop...

Overall, great buy and value for the money, but it took my past experience in gas-powered RC to make the changes.

Have Fun!!!

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/4/2004 2:37 AM

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I have been flying my Badius for a few months now and I have many flights on her with no crashes to speak of. The first thing I did was remove all the radio gear that it came with and sold it all on ebay for $25. I then installed a real radio and receiver, by that I mean a mode 2 set-up, which is rudder and elevator on the right stick and the throttle on the left. This way you are learning the correct way. When you move up to a plane with ailerons, you will already be used to steering & elevator with your right thumb. just switch the rudder to ailerons and move the rudder to the left stick along with the throttle. This is the way everyone flies, so you could get help at a local club if you need it.
Now the best way to buy one of these beauties is from www.raidentech.com
but just buy the parts. Body $10, wing$7.00, rudder & elevator $4.00, Prop $5.00, motor $5.00
Batterys $10.00 each. I bought three.
Total $41.00 and then buy a real 4 channel radio and electronic speed control ( I bought the Great Palnes C-10 for $25) Order the Polyheadral wing and you will fly for sure. The flat wing is much harder to learn on. It is a great little trainer plane if you start out right. No need for all the cutting, taping and modifying. It flies great if set up properly. I get 10 minute flights on the stock battery.
You can buy some spare parts when you order your plane or wait till you see what you need.
I only needed one prop after many flights, and that was because I hit the blacktop just before the grass.
If you have any questions shoot me an email captainrandys@bellsouth.net
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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/8/2004 12:33 AM

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i have a accipiter badius and really love it,it seems pretty sturdy because i have had some good crashes it likes to crash on the wings so taping them helps,the only problem i have is the plane doesent seem to turn like it should any advice would help thanks,

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/8/2004 10:32 PM

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Some ideas...
As I can see, all of the owners of the AB agree that taping the wings is a good idea to reinforce them against crashes. Most use masking tape, duct tape, silver tape and others... I have very little experience in flying, but when I had a gas powered plane, as I could fly it far away from me, sometimes it got a little difficult to see whether the plane was "going" or "coming" (the plane was white), so I taped one wing red and the other yellow. It looks strange, but it was fine to see the side the plane was pointing...

Other owners comment that the gravity center of the plane is not well defined, so they added some extra weight inside the plane's nose (coins). I was thinking of adding a landing gear, with the "common" two-wheels in the middle of the plane and a "steerable" wheel at the nose. All I need is to use the rudder servo, with another rod attached, going to the front wheel pin. I wonder if that would work... Is there enough room in the plane's nose?

What is the experience of landing Accipiters? As far as I can see, the "original pack" does hot have any landing gear, so I assume you have to "belly-land" or catch it in your hands... In fact, what is the "official" way of landing this plane?

Also, I would like some advice abou the batteries... The RC unit user regular AA batteries, right? But what about the plane's batteries? Can I use the "regular" rechargeable batteries found in the market and "build" another pack? Or the batteries have a specific charge and amps? To buy an extra pack of bateries, all the way from Brasil, would be very expensive. I was planning to build two or three "extra" packs with the common rechargeable batteries...

I am planning to buy my first AB around next week, and would like to know if I am doing a good deal. All I see is good comments about the plane, so I am very excited about it.

Best regards from Brasil,
Rubens

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/8/2004 11:54 PM

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See my post #118 above. I stsrted out flying the AB with the controls set to the minimum throw, so as to not over control, but now I have switched to the middle position on the rudder and there is much more turning control. I was trying it out today for the first time and wow! does she turn, It is amazing what one hole in the horn will do. I am in the middle hole position on the rudder and outer most hole on the elevator. She does turm and fly much better with the poly wing. I am in the process of adding ailerons to the flat wing and will have a test flight real soon. I will post my findings here. Good luck with you AB and have fun. Randy

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/9/2004 3:00 PM

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thanks randy i will make that adjusment and post my findings is the poly wing the stock wing or is it something else ? thanks in advance

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/9/2004 11:48 PM

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yOU CAN BUY THE pOLY WING seperate. IT DOES NOT COME WITH THE bADIUS! as for batteries you can use any bateries up to 8 volts uinless you upgrade your motor which is not a bad idea! that might solve the tail heavy problem!. again this is a sail plane. like sailplanes you will ruin the aerodynamics with wheels.. I would not recomend it as a first plane but a second plane, after you learn fundementals of flying. I would only recomend this plane if you fly with some you know with experiance to help set its CG correctly. otherwise it is great cheap plane!!!!! dont expect to do stunts like loops as I said its a sail plane wings will flex. this is a slope sail plane! I had my last plane blow up in some power lines. I ordered a new fuse and as I already have many spare poly wings and tail. I will be using my Futaba 6xa transmitter so i will get gitch freeI will solve tail heavy problem by using pico size servo's and lighter control rods. I also tried the wing dragon wings from another plane and works great!!!! Has anyone used brushless on the badius?

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/10/2004 1:30 AM

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My Badius came with the poly wing and I also ordered a spare and it came poly. I actually wanted the flat, as shown in all the photos, but it came poly. I email raidentech.com and they sent me a flat wing No Charge. So far I have not been able to hurt this plane and it is my first.
I do loops No Problem, I just dive it a bit and then pull back on stick and around she goes. I have never broke a wing yet. Best deal on parts and plane are on www.raidentech.com
I agree with NO Landing gear. It is a slope glider and lands beautifully on the grass. You don't want the extra drag of gear. I have been practicing and I am no able to land it at my feet. Next is to try and fly it right at myself and catch it. I have seen this done with huge gliders in Hawaii.
Keep flying.
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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/11/2004 6:29 PM

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Just an update on my experiment with adding ailerons to the Badius. I have flown this plane mostly with the Polyhedral wing that I received with the plane and it flys great. I had one of the flat wings that the planes are now coming with and had only flown it once. It flew ok I guess, but I had to experiment with adding ailerons. I cut the wing and added a Hitec-55 servo under the wing and used small push rods with ball clevis type do dads. I just finished three successful flights with her and she flew really good. Nice bank turns just like I wanted. I was also able to get her inverted and fly upside down. Wow! that was cool, I was a little low when I tried this and when I pulled up to complete the loop, I was a little too close to the ground for me, but it was ok. After my heart stopped pounding, I tried it again and it was better. I wouldn't nessesaraly
recommend adding ailerons, it was just something I wanted to try. What I did notice was that I didn't have as long a flight time as I did with the poly wings. The plane is actually a bit lighter with the smaller servo for the ailerons. I removed the ruddrer servo and just removed the connecting rod to the rudder. The rudder just stayed in it's neutral position. I think the fact that this flat wing penetrates the air better, but does not glide as well as the Poly wing is the reason for the shorter flights. I had to have power on for longer times than with the poly wing.
Flight times only about 8 minutes vs 12 with Poly. I think my nextstep is to try the Li-Po batteries. I am including a couple of photo's of my aileron install. Hope you all enjoy as I enjoy reading others adventures and postings.[/image]

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