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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/26/2004 1:27 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Brent,
Thanks for your input. I was not aware of the button theory.
I agree 1000% if we keep our batteries at peak and don't try to operate too far away, we should not have any problems no matter which way we point our antenna.

I do know that from sailing the high seas, that when our sailboat was healing with rails in the water, we could not transmit as far. Of course VHF Radiotelephone is basically line of site. When we motored straight up our transmit range was greatly increased.

Thanks again Brent.
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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/26/2004 5:48 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		afineman and Randy, Thanks for the excellent information on the transmitter and its antenna. I was looking at my Accipiter Badius transmitter today and it has a little red light on the left that is always staying on and there is a little green light on the right that is always staying on. The little green light does have the word batt. written under neath it. My manual says that if the little red light on the left is blinking and is making an intermittenit beeping sound, that the batteries are getting weak. I was wondering if my manual explained this right about those lights and what both lights being on means for the transmitter and its batteries.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/26/2004 1:13 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Hi Ray,
Sorry, I don't have my instruction manual for the transmitter, but on my Futaba, when the red light on the left comes on that means the battery is weak. That's what happen to me once upon landing and I lost control 3 feet off the ground. I first thouight something was broken, but then I saw the red lght on and recharged the battery. All was well again.

I bought a Great Planes charger to charge all my batteries, but I would have to bypass the internal diode in the transmitter in order to cycle them. I'm not sure if the Badius transmiter has this diode.

I just remembered the Badius does not come with batteries for the Transmitter. What type of batteries did you put in it?
If they are not rechargable, then throw them out and replace. I remember I was carrying a spare set with me when I went to the field.

Hope this helps,
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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/26/2004 4:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where can I buy the Poly Wings for The A/Badius ,I to am a begginer i have not broke any wings yet but have nose dived several times and killed my receiver, and the fuse looks like and accordian any help would be appreciated.



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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/26/2004 7:30 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		The poly wings or as Raidentech calls them "Bent" can be ordered from www.raidentech.com
They list two, a (straight or flat) and Bent. The bent one is the Poly wing.
I would suggest ordering a new fusalage if your is like an accordian. Make sure you balance the plane at 8 7/8" back from the tip of the nose cone.

I would suggest that you read back through all the posts on the Badius and you will most likley find answers to many of your questions. If you have a question that is not answered, then by all means ask.

As a newbie, if help is available in your area, I would suggest that you let an experianced pilot get you plane up and trimmed out and then you take the controls. It is hard to learn if something is out of wack and you don't know it.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/27/2004 12:19 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Paaarr6, Make sure to check the plug in connections where the servo's and ESC wires plug into the reciever. When you crash the plane, sometimes the connections will come loose and can cause a control or non running problem. ALSO, the reciever can pop apart from a hard nose crash into the ground like the way it happened to me. I noticed when putting the reciever back together that it is designed to be taken apart, I guess it designed this way so as be able to check the antenna's soldered wire connection. I would suggest taping the reciever closed to prevent it from ever poping open again.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/27/2004 11:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		could Anybody tell me what kind of radio ,receiver, speedcontrol, i would need for my A/Badius
i crashed ,replaced everything and my radio wont work have all fresh batteries dont know what is wrong
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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/28/2004 12:25 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Hey Paul,
First off I would check the receiver and see if the antenna has come disconnected inside the reciever. I have heard of this happening often after a crash. The receiver can be openen and you can see if the antenna is still soldered. Most times you can just solder it abck and you are good to go again. If this is the case then nothing would work including the speed control.

If all else fails you can buy replacement parts from www.raidentech.com
If you want to upgrade, I went to the Futaba 4YF radio with mini servos and use a Great Planes C-10 speed control.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/28/2004 2:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Capt Randy, After the Crash i put all new stuff in her and it still wont work , checked antenna and batteries all that is ok , iam not sure what happened, but i think I might upgrade could you tell me what servos you used, I know you said mini but being new to the sport I could use some part Names Thank You and all who give me advise


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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/28/2004 3:26 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Hey Paul,
Sounds funny that you put all new gear in her and it still doesn't work. I think I would have to pin point why, before I moved on to new gear.

I can tell you that I only had the original Badius gear in my plane for the first flight and then I upgraded. The main reason I did this was that I did not want to learn on the two stick radio that came with the plane as it is not the norm for flying. I wanted to fly mode 2 like everyone else.

That is throttle and rudder left stick and elevator/ailerons right stick.
With a three channel plane like the Badius, you just use the aileron channel for rudder so that to are still steering with your right stick.
No rudder on left stick, just throttle.

I bought the Futaba 4YF Micro R114F with two S3108 Servos from Tower Hobbies. I did not use the 3108 servos in the Badius. I used the servos that came with the Badius as they fit and worked fine with the new Futaba receiver. I saved them to use in a different plane.

I installed a Great Planes C-30 speed control only because I wanted something large enough to upgrade to a bigger plane down the road.
It was $39.00 from Tower Hobbies.

I still use the original batteries that came with the Badius and I charge them all with a Great Planes Triton charger.

You could use the S3108 servos that come with the Futaba 4YF, but if the original servos still work, just use them till they give out.

Are you trying to learn with the flat or Poly wing?

Hope this helps,
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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/28/2004 4:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a few questions

did you replace the battery pack?
after you charge it do you have a meter to check the voltage?
if you have new battries, reviever, speed control and it doesn't work lets talk about the TX.

are both LEDs on?
when you turn the power on to the TX then the plane does anything happen?did you remove and reseat the crystal on both the TX and RX?

Turn the power on to the plane and wakl near RF sources, computer, CB raido if you have one, a running car with the hood up, any thing that couls make RF noise.

Let me know what happens and I may be able to give you some more direction

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/28/2004 6:03 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		paaarr6, I have found that like afineman was saying, make sure to check the tightness of the plugin crystals, they can be loose or not plugged all the way in correctly due to bent piece. I also would check the little prongs of the battery plug to make sure they are plugging in fully for proper contact. Another rare thing to watch out for and it that happened to me is that the transmitters on/off switch will catch on the transmitter housing slot and not fully move to the on position of which does'nt allows it to click into the on position. The Transmitters will beep when turned on and the green light must be on for the transmitter to work with the plane. Also make sure the plane's on/off switch is slide to the on position and that for the motor to run, you must hold in the reset button on the side of plane to have power to the motor for each flight. I know that I sure have put my plane and its parts to the test by crashing alot due to pilot error, but my plane luckily always runs the next time after a little re- straightening.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/28/2004 3:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Capt Randy, I am using The Flat wing that came with It.

Brent, I have 3 battery packs ,and have tryed all 3, both leds are on red on left green on right i put brand new batts in the radio, when i turn on the radio it beeps when you turn the plane on and push the reset nothing happens if you put your hand down by the recv, the servos move aroud crazy like, and if you put the ant of the radio down by the ant wire the motor will start stop servos going back and forth like crazy if you move away nothing happens. even if i walk up to my van while the hood is up and running nothing happens !!!!!!!! what do you think ??????????????????????


Ray, I have checked all of these things , could it be that maybe I just got a bad radio ??????

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/28/2004 5:35 PM  1 votes
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OK so it says things are still working ( reacting to the transmitter) but you have NO range.

when you replaced everything did you also replace the crystal? the things don't like a shock.
they will change frequency if dropped on a hard floor, I believe somewhere on this thread you will find someone had the same problem with their system after a hard crash.

if you did change the crystal the the only other thing it could be is the transmitter but that is unlikely unless you smashed the transmitter to the ground as a reaction to the crash.


let me know

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/29/2004 5:57 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		paaarr6, Your transmitter lights are lite the same as my transmitter when it works, so your at least getting power inside the transmitter it self. To me, it all most sounds like you got the ESC connector end pushed into one of the servo slots on the receiver instead of where it should be. I didn't think the ESC could be plugged into the wrong slot on the receiver, but I would check just to be sure. If I remember right, both servo connector plug ends are plugged in next to each other on the far right side of the receiver and the ESC connector plug end is plugged into left side of receiver just left of the servos plugs on the receiver. I can check on the wire positions to be 100 percent certain tomorrow, or maybe Capt. Randy, afineman, or NCQ3 can re-verify it before then just to be sure. Another thing to check for, is to make sure your antenna is screw in snuggly on top of your transmitter. The transmitter antenna is just screwed into a piece by its threaded stud inside the transmitter and should not be loose. There are also connector plugs inside the transmitter that could be loose, but I personally don't think the transmitter is the problem. If the plane ran until the crash, and you didn't have any hard hits on the transmitter after that, then the problem has to be the plane. I guess there is always a chance that you got a defective new receiver also. Let us know what you find out.

Hey Capt. Randy, I was wondering if you have been able to find and try a LI-POLYMER battery in your Accipiter Badius plane yet. I was just curious of how you made out trying to find them or if you just decided to wait awhile before trying them.

Thanks, Ray

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/29/2004 1:38 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Hi Ray,
Sorry i can't be of help with the badius receiver as I sold mine right from the start, but all your siggestions sound good. One more thing, I don't remember all the posts, but did his new receiver ever work. If not maybe he got the wrong frequency.

I have not tried lipo battery as the small place on the Badius does not look like the lipo packs would fit well. I have been doing better with the thermaling, so I will just leave it as is for now.

I have been looking into geting a bigger glider, like the Great Planes Spectra or something.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/29/2004 5:40 PM   
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I am 99.9% sure that my problem is in the chip set i say this because my son flys the P-51d mustang, he is on channel 4 my A/B is on 8 , my TX will operate his so i ordered a new chip set for her
Thank You Very Much i never thought about the crystal changing on impact THANK YOU THANK YOU Paul



Capt Randy, I ordered the poly wings or folded what ever the correct term is for it THANK YOU TO for helping me Paul

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/29/2004 6:53 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Your welcome Paul, You will be very happy with the Poly wing, I'm sure.

I never heard of a crystal changing frequency on impact, but if you replaced the receiver and did not specify the freq. , maybe they sent you a different one than your transmitter. If your radio operates another plane on a different freq. then that is the ptroblem for sure.

Both the receiver and the transmitter should be marked with the freq.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/30/2004 6:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Its good to hear paaarr6 that you may of found your problem. Also paaarr6, when you get your Accipiter Badius back to flying, you will really like having the polyhedral wing on your plane for it makes the plane fly great. Capt. Randy advised me to put a polyhedral on my plane and I could not believe how much better my plane flys now. My plane is much easier to control on take off, has strong lift capability (my plane will still take off and climb even with 50 percent of battery power used up), handles strong breeze's well, and can maintain same heigth circle flying even with the motor just at lowest throttle setting without an updraft. I really like my plane now.
Hey Capt. Randy or anyone, I was wondering what technique are you using when your bringing in your plane to try to get a smooth landing with the motor off. I seem to have a problem gaging the landing when circling down with the motor off. It seems that as I get within 20 feet of the ground that I am usually 1/2 of a circle off and end up landing about 100 feet off course into high weeds most of the time. It seems that as I get within 20 feet of the ground, I tend to come in much too fast and drop too quickly and with too much speed. Then at the last couple of seconds I will panick and pull up to easy the too high speed landing and I tend to over shoot the landing and end up going around 1/2 circle too much. What do you suggest I should do to slow down my aproach speed a little. Maybe my 150 foot wide circling towards the end is too tight or something. I am trying to land on a hay field that is on a grade and maybe that has something to do with it. Also Capt. Randy, I was checking out those new Omei 2000 EP gliders with motor at Raiden Tech.. I was wondering what you thought about those new large glider planes with a 75"wing span.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/30/2004 9:28 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Thankyou Capt Randy for your advice - I didn't mean to send you a private message - wondered why it didnt appear.. apologies for that (cant even control a forum!).
I will see if I can get the poly wing over here - although being in rip off Britain it will be 3 x the price! Tried a signal test last night (on freshly charged batteries). the motor started to stutter and tailplane jittered at about 100 ft - may have that aerial problem that everyone talks about.

I will beat this thing!

cheers again
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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/30/2004 12:39 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Alan,
Silly question, BUT, did you have your antenna extended all the way?
I did that once and I did not even noticed until after I flew two different planes. After thinking both planes had a problem, I looked at my transmitter and the antenna was all the way down.
It does happen to the best of us. Better than holding on to the plane and throwing the Transmitter. LOL
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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/30/2004 2:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pretty sure it was fully extended - and given the abuse the poor thing has had, I wouldn't be surprised if I had dislodged something. Another theory I have is interference. I flew (tried to!) at the Essex University field which has quite a few radio & sat comms stations on campus, so maybe that didn't help matters!


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ps Are your 'flat' wings angled up slightly?

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/31/2004 2:29 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Al, The radio stations etc, should not be a problem unless they are close to the 27mgz. which is doubtful.

The flat as they call them are not really flat. They have a degree of upward angle and that is the dihedral angle.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/31/2004 3:19 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Hi Guys,
I had a thought last night about the speed control that I am using in my Badius.
I am using the Great Planes C-30 speed control and it is rated for 30 amps 5-10 cells. It works great and the weight is minimal. It fits right in on the little shelf just under the leading edge.

I like the great planes charger as it uses a safe start system where you have to give it full throttle for a few seconds and then back to idle to energize the circuit. Now she is ready to go.
A little light flashes on the charger to let you know. I did not like the push button on the Badius speed control, in fact my speed control stopped working properly after the first crash and the crash was not bad.

Here is how it reacted: I would turn on plane and press the little button to start speed control, I would have throttle control. Then if I idled her down and tried to give it throttle again, it would not respond. I would have to push the button again. This is very hard to do at 500 ft.
That is why I scrapped the speed control and went to the Great Planes C-30.

Now I did mention in a previous post that you could probably use the Great Planes C-10 speed control in the Badius, but I am not sure about that. The C-10 is rated for 12 amps and 5-8 cells.
Although we are using the 7 cell packs that came with the Badius, I don't own a watt meter (yet)
so I don't really know how many amps we are pulling. I guess it would be less than 12, but I don't want anyone to try it and have it not work.

Maybe if I get a moment I will investigate this and get a definite answer. I am sure the electric moderator of this forum would know. Maybe I will shot him a question, so we will know for sure.

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RE: Does anybody fly Accipiter Badius in here? - 7/31/2004 3:57 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Hi Ray,

I wish I could help on the precise landing subject. I think we are learning to master that part of flying. I have mastered the flying part with this plane at least and I can bring her in on her belly pretty darn good most of the time. Exactly where I want to is another story. I fly in two different Places. One is my club field, with a definite runway right if front of me with lots of professional spectators to cheer you on, especially when they know you are a newbie, I just love it when I put it down right in front of me on the field and just have to take a few steps to pick it up. and the other is a gigantic wide open field, so every landing is right where I want it, LOL

When at the Big field, I try to gage the approach so that I can land right at my feet (well almost at my feet) and then two giant steps to pick it up. It doesn't always happen that way for sure.

I try to get the most out of the batteries, so sometimes I wind up down the field and not enough power to bring her back close. It's good exercise though.

Ray, I think it is just a matter of Practice, Practice, Practice. We are all newbies and I can tell you that I have seen seasoned pilots not land all that good, so it is a never ending learning experience. I think gliders are unique as we are most all the time coming in Dead Stick.

Luckily the practice part is FUN!

About those Omei Planes, I just took a quick look and they seem pretty nice for the price, but I did see them on eBay also. Sometimes you can get a better deal on eBay and then again sometimes they get bid up to as high as you can buy from Raidentech.

I think the flatter wing with ailerons would be harder for all of us right now.

I was looking at a larger plane like the Great Planes Spectra, as it has Polyhedral, large wing span and rudder control vs ailerons. Our Badius preforms well with rudder as long as you have the throw set up to give you more control. You must have some speed up for any of these controls to work properly. I see some make such a sharp turn and then their airspeed is so low that they tip stall and then dive to gain speed and then pull up too hard and stall all over again.

I put up a post about the Great Planes speed controls. Take a look.

Anyway, keep practicing and have fun.

Capt. Randy

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