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DONT OVER THINK IT!!! - 11/18/2003 5:55:13 PM   
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Guys,

I'm not a frequent reader of this forum, but I pop in now and then 'cause I have a SPA3D. I'm reading a lot of posts asking if it is okay to do this or that,what about the weight penalty, will this work, blah, blah, blah...

These planes are SPAD's...dont over think them. If you want to try something, by all means do it. If it does not work, take it off and try something else. It is not like you have to do major sugery on a stick built airframe on a giant scale warbird that is overweight and has a high wing loading that has to be flown at the same speed as the full scale version.

If you want 2 servos in the wing for flaperons, cut a hole in the wing and put the servos in. screw them down and hook your linkages up and fly. If you dont like the results, take the servos out, tape over the hole and try something else.

I don't mean to rant, but geeze...keep in mind what SPAD means, especially the first letter...SIMPLE (Plastic Airplane Design).

Now, go fly.

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RE: DONT OVER THINK IT!!! - 11/18/2003 6:05:16 PM   
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I won't over think it if you wont over-react to a faily SIMPLE question...


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RE: DONT OVER THINK IT!!! - 11/18/2003 6:21:08 PM   
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Big Daddy,

I did not mean to offend anyone, I just wanted to reinterate that these are not Top Gun scale models. Experiment and have fun

Jon


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RE: DONT OVER THINK IT!!! - 11/18/2003 7:27:07 PM   
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LMAO at XtremeAerosport-RCU ....
I feel like a great weight has been lifted off of my back.

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RE: DONT OVER THINK IT!!! - 11/18/2003 8:20:47 PM   
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If it's any consulatiuon, Kraut and I have built hundreds of Spads...a lot more than have made it to the web page...we tend to fly first and think later...it's a lot more fun that way. A drill, exacto, duct tape and zip-ties are always in the car at the field

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RE: DONT OVER THINK IT!!! - 11/18/2003 8:49:16 PM   
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Its funny...because it seems like when I first started in this hobby some 28ish years ago....even 18 years ago...it seemed to be more like that. I tend to get in and out as I get bored easily.

Now, the radios are so complicated. Everyone is an expert and theres only one way to do anything and only one kind of product works. It certainly is refreshing to get back to basics....

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But what if you just want to go fly? - 11/18/2003 8:50:26 PM   
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If you are a regular SPAD reader (like me), you will know that
many of those who do NOT stick to the plans, will often post:
"What's wrong with my SPA3D (QHOR etc)"?

If a person is not overly interested in experimentation,
and actually wants to end up with a good flying plane on his
first try, he will stick to the plans as much as he can.

BUT, if he has been reading all those "What's wrong" postings,
he might want to check with others before making ANY
changes to the basic designs.
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For me, an interesting element of this hobby is the
brainstorming and on-line research that comes
before making that first Coroplas cut.

5/32 wire landing gear isn't in the standard SPA3D plans.
I stole 2 or 3 neat ideas from other SPADers to create
my own wire landing gear that doesn't require any extra
nuts, bolts etc. How did I do it? (one might ask)

I posted questions: "How did you mount that 5/32 LG?"
a few times and no one said "Just do it", they just showed
me how they did it. I used a combination of their ideas
to make mine. (IMHO, mine is totally cool)! LOL

Anyway, that's what I thought these forums were for.
Am I wrong?

< Message edited by rlt55 -- 11/18/2003 9:18:44 PM >


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RE: But what if you just want to go fly? - 11/18/2003 9:09:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rlt55

5/32 wire landing gear isn't in the standard SPA3D plans.
I stole 2 or 3 neat ideas from other SPADers to create
my own wire landing gear that doesn't require any extra
nuts, bolts etc. How did I do it? (one might ask)



Ok, so post how you did it...

I've not crossed that creek yet, but I thought the idea I was thinking about was going to be the best. But, mine does require screws so maybe it isn't....lol

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RE: But what if you just want to go fly? - 11/18/2003 9:18:22 PM   
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Now, the radios are so complicated.


Boy do I agree!!! I still have a VCR from the early 90's I've never figured out! BTW, I don't even own a computer radio (Sassy has a couple though) and all my Spadding is done with Hitech Focus 4 radios. I own one Lazer 6, but have yet to use the 5th or 6th channel.

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It certainly is refreshing to get back to basics....



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RE: But what if you just want to go fly? - 11/18/2003 10:45:46 PM   
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Keep it simple stupid.

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RE: DONT OVER THINK IT!!! - 11/18/2003 10:46:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: XtremeAerosport-RCU
These planes are SPAD's...dont over think them.


And this is a discussion forum. Don't over analyze why people post stuff.

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RE: But what if you just want to go fly? - 11/18/2003 10:51:56 PM   
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The new radios arnt complicated (at least the major name brands arnt). Take the book with you to the can and read it. You can do some amazing stuff with just a little reading. Also I agree with the original poster. Just try stuff, I bet thats how SPAD started. I doubt the forefathers of SPAD sat down with advanced formulas for success. I have made a lot of changes. Some of them no so good but some of them were great. If your afraid to try anything then we will never discover anything new.

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RE: But what if you just want to go fly? - 11/18/2003 11:10:29 PM   
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Another good read about Spadding, posted by Ross Kean on spadworld.

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I originally posted this on the RCCA forum, but I thought it might be useful for new SPADers visiting here. Slightly edited, but essentially the same information.

Newbies

Welcome to the SPAD forum. Here, you will find a friendly bunch who are willing to help you with your projects and with almost anything else RC related! We listen and make recommendations based upon what has worked for us and based upon what we have read. Please remember that we have gained this knowledge over the years from many different sources - it doesn't happen overnight and we all know that an appropriate word at the right time from a more experienced builder/flier etc can save a lot of time, trouble, heartache, and expense.

We are a resource, but don't assume that our ways are the only ones that are effective. (Don't assume that our opinions are even necessarily correct.) I would suggest that if you have a question or need information about a building related topic, USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION on the forum. At the time of this writing, this forum is relatively new and there is not (yet) a lot of information here. On the RCCA forum, there have been thousands of posts on almost every conceivable topic for over a year. I am willing to bet you might have some difficulty in finding an RC topic that hasn't been touched. The RCCA forum (linked from the SpadWorld index page) is also searchable.

Read what's been written here first and go to other Internet sites for more information. We have posted many links to some really fabulous resources out there. Get familiar with www.spadtothebone.com , in particular.

Once you have a little understanding of the topic, but need some further insight, ask away! As you may have noticed, you will get lots of prompt answers. Not all will agree with each other but there are many different viewpoints and seeing different sides is part of the learning process.

I am only now getting to the point of this thread. TRY STUFF!!! When it comes to building SPADS, there is no "right way" to do things. Think outside the box and give it a go. Nobody here went to SPAD school and we aren't all design engineers. The real fun of this kind of building is CREATIVITY. Nothing provides a nicer feeling than discovering a new technique or developing your own airplane design or modification. This is a very expensive and time-consuming proposition for balsa builders, but is very do-able for SPADS. The more you do on your own, the more you will learn and the more fun you will have. Solve a problem by yourself and share your experience with the rest of us! There's nothing like a new idea to spark discussion and get the creative juices flowing.

SPAD is our name and TLAR is our mantra. (That Looks About Right)

This is all about fun, fellowship and learning. Go out there and ENJOY!

Ross


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RE: But what if you just want to go fly? - 11/19/2003 12:17:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 2MuchThrow

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ORIGINAL: rlt55

5/32 wire landing gear isn't in the standard SPA3D plans.
I stole 2 or 3 neat ideas from other SPADers to create
my own wire landing gear that doesn't require any extra
nuts, bolts etc. How did I do it? (one might ask)



Ok, so post how you did it...

I've not crossed that creek yet, but I thought the idea I was thinking about was going to be the best. But, mine does require screws so maybe it isn't....lol



Check out the SPA32D folder at
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/nj1a
You should get the idea.
The hard part is routing a 5/32 channel
between the two wire holes.
Push the hairpin into the holes, mount the
channel and bend the wires out with
short section of AL tube. Use a vice to
put on the wheel bends. Simple and light.

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RE: But what if you just want to go fly? - 11/19/2003 12:35:04 AM   
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rlt55 -- followed the link but the only pictures I saw under SPA3D (no SAP32D there) were of a flat Al gear.

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