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MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 11/19/2003 3:29:24 AM   
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I've been looking for a good charger for batteries anywhere from 270ma NiCad to 1600MA NiMH with a discharge built in. Also would like to charge two batteries at once. I have been using a Hobbico Accu-Cycle, not exactly what I would rate as a professional series. The MRC looked promising, any feedback?
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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 11/19/2003 10:20:41 AM   
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Suggest you get in touch with Red S. at this address: redscho@aol.com in regards to your question........

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 11/20/2003 2:41:06 AM   
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I got a failed mail with the above address.

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 11/20/2003 9:22:17 AM   
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Ick;

Sorry..try this one redscho@bellsouth.net this one should get there...



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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 11/22/2003 3:36:21 AM   
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Thanks, obviously not a good choice.

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 11/22/2003 5:19:32 AM   
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Yes, this charger kicks butt. I was looking for chargers for a while and I tested this one versus the Integy Indi 16X4 Pro and this one is better. You can charge 2 separate batteries simultaneously, or discharge one while charging another. It can charge all your ni-cads, nimh, glow ignitors, lead acid 12v batteries, flight packs, etc. Really worth it!

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 11/22/2003 6:05:36 AM   
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Works GREAT!

- I use it at home and the field (being AC/DC is the bomb!)

- You can adjust settings to charge as fast or slow as you want - OR just plug in your packs (different voltages ok), push start and the 969 figures out the cell count (voltage) and does a fast multi-peak charge with no further input. Peak is followed by trickle for a period of time.

Only two (small) improvements I would suggest to MRC: 1) offer discharge on both circuits and 2) offer cycling function where you can have charge begin automatically after discharge. Also note that you are limited to 8 cells (12V) - which is no problem me, and most likely most people.

Highly recommend it.

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 11/24/2003 2:39:28 AM   
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the general opinion is it is a ok charger, just NEVER charge li-po batts with it, much too dangerous.

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 11/24/2003 6:50:30 PM   
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This charger will not charge Li-po batteries in an unknown state of charge. As far as I can tell, that means if you discharge them fully prior to charging and do not charge them to more than the rated capacity (or leave them unattended), you can charge your Li-po batteries with this charger.

And the AC power supply it comes with supplies no more than 5 amps which can be split between the two outputs in any combination.

It charges no more than 8 cells at a time.

Other than those limitations, I think it is a good charger. It is the one I own.

Regards.

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 1/4/2004 6:59:56 AM   
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Mike,

Have you had any problems with the 969 charging new (out of the package ) 4.8 V RX packs? I had two JR 800 mA packs and charged them at .5C as per the manual (for new packs) and they peaked at approx 300 mA. I cycled them about three times and the capacity didn't improve. I also set the peak sensitivity to 40 mV to ensure the charger didn't receive a false peak. After losing some faith in the charger, I charged one pack on my Accu-cycle charger at a timed charge of 125 mA for 9 hours and it charged to 750 mA. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the Super Brain because I also had the 959 and liked the features; I'm just not convinced that it likes to break-in new packs. Thoughts?

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 1/6/2004 7:55:03 PM   
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Hi,

New packs can be a problem with any charger. I cycle mine a couple of times very slowly, low amps on both discharge and charge. Also, you could have done a timed charge on the 969.

I, too, set the sensitivity higher than 5mv/cell to avoid early peaking. Usually 45mv for a 7 cell pack.

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 1/7/2004 5:19:13 PM   
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I just got this charger last night from the LHS... It was either this or the Triton. The only difference I can tell is this does 2 packs at the same time, as the Triton has one output. Also the Triton does up to 24 cells (like I'll ever need more than 8) and this one only does up to 8 cells. no biggie. Also the 969 has AC AND DC power (gotta love that!)

Anyway, whats the story on the Li-Po. It will charge them correct?

Haven't had a chance to play with mine...got planes to get finished...

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 1/8/2004 3:28:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: *Crash*Johnson*

Anyway, whats the story on the Li-Po. It will charge them correct?

The 969 will not charge them in a safe manner. Do not try it. Check out Red Scholefield's "Product Alert" which gives all the info you need.

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RE: MRC Super Brain 969 Pro any good? - 1/8/2004 9:52:16 PM   
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Model Rectifier Super Brain 969
Reviewer: C. Scholefield – Red’s R/C Battery Clinic.

This charger has an ability to deliver 4.5 amps per channel* when using DC input. The Supplied AC adapter does not have the capability of charging at these rates.
*See operating manual for limits.
You can charge two batteries of different voltages or types simultaneously, or charge one battery while discharging another. The 969 has a variety of charge settings.
· AC/DC delta peak charger. With AC Adapter combine charge current cannot be greater than 5 amps.
· Dual independent outputs for added versatility. Discharge on channel A only.
· LCD screen shows: battery voltage, charge rate, peak threshold, capacity, number of cells in pack & elapsed time. Screen may be toggled between channels.
· Charges NiCd, NiMH, Li & Pb batteries. WARNING – Lithium charging is uncontrolled constant current – NO VOLTAGE LIMIT – Unattended charging of lithium battery can result in explosion and/or fire!
· Lead Acid charging is also constant current with no voltage clamp. Charging rates must be no greater than C/20 if the charger is operated unattended or the battery can suffer considerable damage.
· For 1~8 cells (Ni-Cd & Ni-MH) Note: Per the instruction manual; to charge 7 or 8 cells a higher voltage than the 12 Volt DC input is required as there is no up converter capability in the charger. The upper voltage limit for charging 7 & 8 cell packs is not specified.
· Selectable charge rate with 0.1 amp increments
· Selectable delta peak voltage thresholds in 5mV increments.
· Selectable maximum Charge Input. Default 1700 mAh – must be reset each time charger is connected to power source if different charge inputs are desired.
· Selectable maximum Charge Time. Default 40 minutes – must be reset each time charger is connected to power source if different charge times are desired.
· Cooling fan – automatic.
· 12-bit Analog-to-Digital converter.
· Digital Signal Processing.
· Accuracy of voltage/current settings is adequate for this type of device.

Price $119.95 Discounted to $99.99 includes AC adapter.
The unit appears well constructed in a black metal case. Connections to the power source are via a non standard connector to the charger and alligator clips for connecting to a DC source other than the supplied AC adapter. Connections to the battery are provided by banana jacks for channel A and a pig tail with Tamia type connector for channel B. Note: The unit received for test from an independent source may have had this added.


One must unplug the unit to reset the charge or discharge parameters. The unit defaults to 3.0 amp charge/discharge and must be reset if other rates are desired.

Discharge display is lost if stop button is pressed.

AC Power adapter provided seems to go inactive if it is plugged into the unit at the same time a battery is connected. It resets after some time. The unit also works from a 12-volt DC source.

Other annoying feature is that the defaults that must be reset each time by first disconnecting the power source as well as the battery under test. It terminates charge after 1700 mAh are input or upon peak, whichever occurs first. Likewise it terminates charge after 40 minutes or upon detecting a peak, again which ever occurs first. When the charge current is set to a lower rate the time and charge input must also be changed to accommodate this.

If the power to the MRC 969 is disconnected (or happens to go off when using the AC adapter) the unit puts a load on any battery connected to it such that it discharges the battery and possibly reversing some cells if allowed to continue.

After reading the Safety Cautions and Warnings provided in the front of the Manual one has to ask if this charger is a viable product for the modeler.

SAFETY CAUTIONS & WARNINGS

1. Never leave the charger unattended when in use.

2. Do not connect the unit to the DC power supply while there is a
battery attached to the unit. You should disconnect the battery first
and then connect the unit to DC power supply.

3. Do not leave the battery inside any product while charging.

4. Place the charger and battery on a solid uncarpeted surface with
good ventilation.

5. Do not charge the battery inside the full-size automobile as
damage to interior can result.

6. Battery damage can occur if the charge current (Amps) rate is set
too high. Different capacity batteries may require a higher or lower
charge rate. Follow the “Notes on Charging Batteries” in addition to
battery manufacturer’s instructions.

7. If the battery or the charger becomes extremely hot, immediately
disconnect the charger from the power source and allow the
battery and charger to cool.

8. The charger is designed to charge 1~8 cells nickel cadmium or
nickel metal hydride batteries. It will also charge Lithium, lead-acid/
gel cell batteries. Because of the volatile nature of Lithium
batteries, great care must be taken when charging these cells. If
improperly or over charged, there is the risk that the battery will