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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/9/2002 11:58:03 PM   
wbrian



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Status: offline 		I love this forum and believe that Marc has provided an incredible service for RC enthusiasts. I also understand that the threads must be monitored and locked when they get out of hand. Locking threads however has happened in my opinion all to often as of late. Perhaps it’s necessary and I’m just missing to obvious. Just wanted to get some thoughts.


[COLOR=blue]Lord Acton - Power tends to corrupt; and absolute power corrupts absolutely[/COLOR]
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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 12:11:20 AM   
sideshow



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Status: offline 		I think, as of late, that the threads locked were done rightly so. Without mentioning names, a few posters are stirring up the pot so that the thread no longer serves the purpose it was started for. I, myself, have been known to post the "occasional" emotional response.....I know, I know, hard to believe. I find it difficult to sit and not respond to absurd and non-sensical arguments. Generally when the thread is closed everyone settles down and other threads of substance are started. Letting threads go on usually just results in excellent examples of cat fights, which are easy to do on the internet because people are sitting behind their computers and not face-to-face. Fights people would never dream of starting are started here because there is no chance someone will get their ass kicked because they are acting like an ass, as happens in the real world occassionally. There is still an incredible amount of ACTUAL knowledge here. I have been reading the jet forum for months and my knowledge level is all the way up to "knows next to nothing"....thats up from "more money than brains". Anyway just enjoy.

Bob

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 12:24:23 AM   
stevezero



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Status: offline 		<--------will admit to letting poor judgement get the better of me earlier today, and for that I will apologize. I just hate seeing someone try to publicly tear a new one to a person who, even though has a vested interest for commercial gain, takes the time to offer input. I try to treat everyone on here with the respect they deserve, and its unfortunate that some deserve less than others. I have been the first to admit that I do not know it all, and like you bob, I have learned a massive amount of correct information from here. I think I am firmly at "knows enough to be realllllllllly dangerous", but am not sure if that is up or down from "more money than brains" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Maybe we could create and publish those knowledge levels, and it could be appended to our information LOLOL


<---Taking a lithium pill and calming down now (chanting "Serenity Now, Serenity Now over and over again )

Steve

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 12:27:20 AM   
robert


 

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Status: offline 		In response to a thread recently closed, I think that it should have been deleted, as there was no need in publicly insulting tose people.
They should be locked, as it has a domino effect. People join sides, it gets bigger and bigger, then splits the community. Its good to get it at its roots before it has a chance to grow. Anyway, we should all go back and check out the thousands of other threads unchecked, (in a friendly manner).
Robert.

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 12:38:27 AM   
wbrian



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Status: offline 		Speaking of that last locked post

In fear of making myself a piñata I don’t see how INJUN_EAR started personal attacks (perhaps I’m missing a deleted post). He’s certainly guilty of going against the grain of conventional thought with almost a bullish disregard for feelings but he did stop short of personal attacks.

What am I missing?


Where’s the line now? It’s like trying to hit a moving target!!

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 1:15:07 AM   
INJUN_EAR


 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by wbrian
Speaking of that last locked post

In fear of making myself a piñata I don’t see how INJUN_EAR started personal attacks (perhaps I’m missing a deleted post). He’s certainly guilty of going against the grain of conventional thought with almost a bullish disregard for feelings but he did stop short of personal attacks.

What am I missing?


Where’s the line now? It’s like trying to hit a moving target!! [/QUOTE]

I will be the first to admit that I'm, er...to the point. I don't resort to personal attacks to get my point of view across.
I do enjoy a good debate, and am a well decorated veteran of the "PCM vs. PPM" wars, and admittedley don't have the level of tolerance I once had.

In perusing this thread, I see the lock down didn't really do as intended..... did it?

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 1:15:53 AM   
RCadmin



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Status: offline 		Listen...NOBODY wants my job...I'm in the position and so are the moderators of trying to keep this a fun and informative place. I've seen other sites go down the dark path and it spelled their demise..nobody wants to see this place take a similar fate.

These calls are never taken lightly and I'll never make everyone happy...sometimes a thread is put out while the fire is burning bright and perhaps should have been done earlier...other times maybe too soon while it's just smoldering a bit....I'll admit I won't get it right every time and neither will the moderators but our intentions are good and our goal is to just keep this place useful and fun for everyone. If we ever do something you may disagree with and it's likely at times this will happen please understand the interests of the users are taken to heart...it is the only reason the site is here for you all.

Was that thread horrible? No but a gut feeling told me it wasn't going to head into Disneyland anytime soon and not much useful info was going to be added...could I be wrong about that though? Sure but again I just try to make a judgment call for the benefit of everyone here and so do the moderators.

Hope you all understand a little bit of what I'm trying to convey.

thanks

can I close this one ???

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 1:19:00 AM   
T28pilot



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Status: offline 		I'll take your job......you take mine....

I clean up after the circus elephants!!!!

J/K keep up the good work marc

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 1:44:48 AM   
wbrian



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Status: offline 		Robert you’re warning me to be careful implies that I have said something offensive. Threatening me that this thread might also be locked despite nothing offensive being said further illustrates my original point. Despite what you might assume am not an apologist for people who might otherwise abuse this great forum. I simply posted a question challenging conventional opinions on when a thread should be closed.

BTW- both Bob and Steve made great points as to where to draw the line. Why couldn’t you have just offered yours?

Again-Power tends to corrupt; and absolute power corrupts absolutely

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 1:55:19 AM   
stevezero



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Status: offline 		Guys,

Let's just let this slide on by and move along. There is no sense in dredging up stuff just to satisfy curiosity. What happened happened, and as Marc said, its done. Let's try to keep it on a higher level than it sunk to before.

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 1:55:26 AM   
wbrian



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Status: offline 		Marc,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I have great respect for your judgment. Your not deleting this thread at first glance speaks volumes about your tolerance.

P.S. enough said by me, I will now get back to RC topics.

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 3:22:44 AM   
RCadmin



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Status: offline 		Thanks guys...one thing I keep in mind is the vast majority of emails and message I get praising the site for it's abundance of RC related topics, questions and posts. This seems to be a common theme among many compliments the site receives. This feedback helps guide me as to what the users like you are looking for...sure there will be those guys that want to come here and either talk off topic or troll for arguments but we deal with that as it comes. I only got into this back in December and learned quickly what most of you are looking for...if we let too much off topic stuff go on or attacks the sites value diminishes greatly.

Think of it this way...you never have been to an RC site before...you have been flying for say 5 years and you decide you want to buy, sell or discuss RC one day. You ask a flying buddy where to go for all this and he tells you RCU. Now imagine what you would expect and want to see once your mouse clicks its way here? Off topic posts, non RC stuff, quarreling, flame wars, trolls, attacks, etc...OR would you rather see RC stuff? That's what it's all about...

There are plenty of sites for the other stuff, the flames, the heated debates, personal attacks and such but the 8000+ and growing member base here has made it clear that they like the no nonsense RC content that RCU provides. This is the formula that has been working so we stick with it.

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Nice Post Marc - 5/10/2002 3:43:26 AM   
T28pilot



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Status: offline 		Nice Post Marc.......

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 4:08:21 AM   
sideshow



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Status: offline 		Yes Marc, well said....especially about trolls.

I don't really know where "more money than brains" fits in to the scale....I guess it depends on how much money you have!



< Message edited by sideshow -- May 10 2002 2:34AM >

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Why oh why must all good threads die - 5/10/2002 12:34:12 PM   
dgrant



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Status: offline 		What I can tell you is first off, we have an excellent leader in Marc, and he's done electronic wonders in building this place I've really come to know as my online club. We all have input here, all of us. There is not one person here that won't get his input heard, EVERYONE has a voice, from the newest member to...well...the first member(would that be Marc?Sure why not ).

Anyways, there are always discussions that take place before action is taken on any thread, the communication of staff is such that we know what's going on at the opposite end of site most of the time. It's very good, Marc has designed this thing so it works, and does well.

The meaning here is the staff really works as one, and although we all have our personalities, we have one goal and that is to have FUN here, and keep it FUN for ALL.
As always, things sometimes go in waves, and as there are well over 8000 members now, when you think about it, the lock/deletion rate is really very good. We like to let people have a say, and good debate brings excellent ideas.
I wouldn't say it's a matter of more threads being locked though, I would say it's a matter of more threads "period". I would bet statistically, percentage wise, there are no more threads locked now then when the site newer.

It takes alot to lock a thread, it's not something we take lightly and we go as long as we can with ALL of them, as I said EVERYONE has a say, threads are how they say it.

Thanks for listening.

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