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Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible with... - 11/23/2003 5:48:52 AM   
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Is the Perry skome valve compatible with methanol perhaps?

What are you guys using to shut your engines down if needed?
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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible ... - 11/23/2003 1:10:48 PM   
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If your plane just has a venturi with no carb control, set up a simple device that pinches off your fuel line in flight. We commonly run a piece of looped music wire through a tube, with the fuel line running through the loop. When you pull the throttle back, the wire pulls the fuel line into the tube pinching off the fuel supply and shutting the engine down.

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible ... - 11/23/2003 5:14:33 PM   
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I know I could make a fuel line pinch.

I just assumed you pylon pro's were using something more professional.

On the other hand, a fuel line doesn't leak, and a valve of some sort might... so maybe it isn't so bad after all...

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible ... - 11/23/2003 5:25:50 PM   
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quote:

I just assumed you pylon pro's were using something more professional



Pylon racers are very simple people. We do not bog ourselves down with gadgets. There is nothing more professional than something that costs virtually nothing, is very simple to construct, requires no maintenance and works every time.

A piece of tubing and a wire loop, can't beat it.

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible ... - 11/24/2003 12:48:07 PM   
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Even simpler:
The fuel pickup in most club 20 racers is on the bottom. Just fly upside down

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible ... - 11/24/2003 3:05:18 PM   
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A fixed pickup will work also, and were commonly used in QM and early Quickee. I'm not a big fan of them because every time you do this to shut down, your putting a strain on your engine as it fights for fuel and starts sucking air at the same time causing a lean condition.

Also, I'm not sure how you could set up a fixed pick up with todays bladder tanks.

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible ... - 11/24/2003 5:47:20 PM   
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Yeah, I intend to use a bladder tank in this plane, so flying inverted to kill the engine is not an option...

Anyway, fuel line pinch it is then...

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible ... - 11/20/2005 3:03:29 AM   
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What about these guys

http://www.centralhobbies.com/Fuel/fittings.htm


Or this fuel-shut off valve supposedly from Dubro (although I can't find it on the net)

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible... - 11/20/2005 4:52:12 AM   
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Looks interesting, but also unneccesary, the pinch does this without the excess weight and additional fuel line as it loops back.

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible... - 11/20/2005 5:06:11 AM   
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Could someone pls draw-up the tube and loop for me? I have a picture of it in my head but its always better when you can see exactly what someone else is doing. I'm just getting into pylon racing and I'm looking to learn as much as i can.
I just brought a foam cutter and wing bagger. I enjoy reading all of the vets do's and dont's.

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible... - 11/20/2005 2:35:36 PM   
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Is this what you want? And yes, the tank is in backwards. A piece of aluminum tube is glued to the fuselage with a wire loop going through it.

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible... - 11/20/2005 3:31:48 PM   
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This shows the tube exit the front of the firewall. A simple plastic Bic Pen works good. Just cutoff a 3/4" piece and glue it into the firewall. Make sure there are no rough edges to damage the fuel line. The music wire that I use is .0032" and I use a simple easy connector on the servo. Use just enough throw on the servo (ATV) to pinch the line, you don't want to stall the servo. After the engine dies I immediate open the throttle back up before landing. This takes the strain off the servo, and also opens the line before I land so I can refill the tank. I've never been a big fan of the backwards tank, I like to see if my line is pinched, and I don't have to turn my radio back on to open it if I forget to do it before shutting off the plane. I have had smaller, cheaper (Hitec 85) type servos stall and fail with this hook up. I pretty much stick with either a Hitec 225, Expert SL 451, or the Futaba 3102 as pictured.

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible ... - 11/20/2005 5:59:30 PM   
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Ok, I'll bite. Whats the thinking behind the reverse fuel tank installation?

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible... - 11/20/2005 7:58:31 PM   
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Ok, I'll bite. Whats the thinking behind the reverse fuel tank installation


There is nothing to bite on. The thinking is this. What could be simpler than the installation shown. A short shut-off wire not having to go past the tank and through the firewall. No fuel lines looping in and out of the engine compartment like a tangle of spaghetti, the lines come from the tank, through the shut-off and straight to the engine. There is no need for a Popsicle stick strapped to the tank to prevent the tank from jerking forward and pinching the line. Every time the wing is removed the feed and pressure line can be inspected.

The reverse tank works only with the Tettra type tank, it will not work with a clunk tank.

Of the three shut-off pictures shown on this thread, which is the simplest to install, cheapest and most convenient?

ED S

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible... - 11/20/2005 10:28:22 PM   
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What keeps the music wire from cutting into the fuel tubing (and possibly severing it)?

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RE: Who makes a fuel shut off valve that is compatible... - 11/20/2005 11:08:58 PM   
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What keeps the music wire from cutting into the fuel tubing (and possibly severing it)?


The answer to that is: Try cutting fuel tubing with music wire.

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