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T.F. Nobler ARF... - 11/23/2003 6:45:05 AM   
proptop



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Status: online 		Anybody got one? I've got a Fox .35 stunt that's just about broken in if I want to go the "classic" route. Or, maybe an O.S. .46LA if that wouldn't make it nose heavy...What do ya all think? I've got a Walker U-Reely, but I need lines, where's the best place to get 'em? I started modelling in the early 70's w/ C/L and always wanted a Nobler, but then I went to R/C, now, when I look at that arf Nobler, I get hunger pangs for one...And to all you "old timers" I also have a Fox .29 w/ 4 head bolts that looks like a very early one (quite rough, by modern standards, casting and very thick and shallow head fins) when do you suppose that one was made, maybe late 40's?
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RE: T.F. Nobler ARF... - 11/23/2003 4:38:58 PM   
gcb



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Status: offline 		proptop,
There have been some very extensive threads about the Nobler ARF over on Stuka Stunt Works. Some are flying them with OSFP .25's up to the .40. I think you are correct about the .46 being too heavy.
I would not recommend the U-Reely. I have one for nostalgia but would not use it. I just can't get the "feel" of the plane when using one. Perhaps you can. Lines can be purchased from SIG or Brodak as well as some of the mail order houses. For engines up to the .40 you can use .015 diameter and start with 60 ft. length. For the .46 you need .018 diameter lines.
I believe the Fox .29 you have is referred to as a "sand cast" model. Your time frame is correct.
Welcome back to CL. Many folks on these forums follow multiple disciplines.

George

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RE: T.F. Nobler ARF... - 11/24/2003 1:09:10 PM   
littlefly



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From: Crawfordville, FL, USA
Status: offline 		Hey there!

Don't let it bug ya. I learned on a Ureely and used one for 15 years. Never had line problems; when I gave my stuff to my friends, the original 7 strand Sullivan .018 lines were still on it in pristine condition. Never saw need to use any other handle. Flew stunt and the old 5man combat with it. Sullivan Products, if they are still with us, will have 'em. Stick with the braided stainless, forget the kevlar ones.

The Nobler was the premier stunter in the 50s and 60s. A real project, if you loved kit building. Bob Palmer's Thunderbird series of planes were also. Shoot, for practice, throw yourself together a Flite Streak and hone up your skills while breaking in that Fox 35 Stunt engine. Then transfer it to the Nobler. It's ALL GOOD!!!!

Got out, went R/c, came back with both 1/2a and full size control line. That spot that nothing else will touch......


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RE: T.F. Nobler ARF... - 11/24/2003 4:29:31 PM   
proptop



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Status: online 		Thanks guys...I used to use a Thimble Drome clear handle, wind 'em up style (similar to a U reely) and when my old friend gave me the U reely, I thought I'd use it. Think I'll get a regular style handle too, and experiment...My brother's got an O.S. 35FP, w/muffler that I can use... I wonder what I'd rather do? Listen to that ole inverted un-muffled Fox stack pointin' right at me, or use the muffled O.S.??? I'd kinda like the raw blat of the Fox, or ya think muff. press. is ness.? I used to like the feel of .015 x 60' lines (multi strand is all I ever used) and w/ the . 35 that ought to be O.K. I flew a PDQ "Super Clown" (given to me by a friend, built in the '50's) w/ a McCoy .29 and a Goldberg Shoestring stunter, back in the early-mid 70's that I taught myself to fly. Still have the Clown, bro cracked-up the 'shoe...I ask about muffler press. cuz I've never flown anything besides profiles, and I'm wondering what type of tank might be in it. I've heard of a "uniflow" but never used one. Wonder if the stock tank is O.K.? This is cool, gettin' back to my "roots", so to speak. Wonder if any of the other guys in our club might get re-turned (bad pun) to C/L with me???

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RE: T.F. Nobler ARF... - 11/24/2003 11:38:35 PM   
gcb



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From: Port Ewen, NY, USA
Status: offline 		I don't understand the part about the unmuffled Fox. Even if it is an old one without muffler "ears" you can get a strap-on for it. Many use tongue mufflers for less weight and less back pressure on the Fox.
Either engine would work well. Your choice.
Good luck with it.

George

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