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    BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/25/2003 12:51:32 PM   
    Mike Wiz


     

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    Status: offline     		Last Wednesday or Thursday my BTE Delta Vortex kit arrived and I told people in another thread that I'd post some progress photos. Here are those photos.

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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/25/2003 12:57:51 PM   
    Mike Wiz


     

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    Status: offline     		Here are some more. The last one was taken last night after I finnished a ton of sanding..... You shoulda seen the mess!

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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/25/2003 1:08:32 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Mike,
    Thanks for starting this thread. The DV looks super and a fast build. Have you done anything different yet or are you building it stock ? Take care, Pete


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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/25/2003 1:34:19 PM   
    Mike Wiz


     

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    Status: offline     		Pete,

    I may invert the engine and cowl it in on top. I haven't decided that yet. When I get the motor box built, I'll have a look at what's involved and how I think it will look. Then I'll make my decision.

    Say, did you see in the 91 2-cycle thread that Webra has a new .91 comming out? I think one of those would be perfect on this plane. Humm.....Now I'm not sure about that Saito 100 I bought for it...... I hate how I always second guess myself on things like this.

    BTW......Yeah, It's a pretty fast build, but I'm a slow builder. I've really been putting in a lot of time on it since it arrived.

    Wiz

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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/25/2003 2:58:00 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Mike,
    I went to the German Webra site and I agree the 91 looks like a winner with the TNII carb. My 32 is sweet and the TNII carb on it is great. I did not see a price or ordering info... I would keep the fixed gear if your inverting the engine as the damage to the engine and firewall would be significant of the retracts malfunctioned and you had to belly it in. Pete


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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/25/2003 6:41:51 PM   
    Mike Wiz


     

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    Status: offline     		As to the engine, I think I'm going to sit tight with the Saito 1.00. No sense in switching to a new and as of yet unproven engine. That said, I'm sure the Webra would have been great. I think the MVVS .91 is probably a good choice too.

    The other idea I've been toying with is a big electric power system. (Actually, this was my first choice.) The problem there is the small fortune in Lithium Polymer batteries that would be required.

    As to the retracts, I had decided not to do retracts early on it the construction process.

    Cheers,

    Wiz

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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/25/2003 8:26:47 PM   
    BillHarris



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    Status: offline     		I think that the DV would electrify easily. Light wing loading and humungous interior volume would make it easy to carry batteries. The initial expense would be a toad-kicker, but it would be a neat project.

    Another idea would be a glow-powered Ducted Fan unit mounted topside between the fins.

    I'm planning a DV once I get a 3-plane backlog taken care of....

    --Bill

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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/25/2003 9:54:03 PM   
    Mike Wiz


     

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    Status: offline     		The one drawback to electrifying the DV besides cost is the gear length. Sure I can bend up some music wire to make longer gear, but you can only make wire so long before it begins to get too flexable. I believe it's doable, but it's right on the edge with gear long enough to clear a 16" prop.

    Still, I've been looking hard at those big AXI motors you see in the Hobby Lobby ads here at RCU......along with the pricy Hacker and Actro altertnatives. Basically, Id want 2 packs of 8S4P lipos at $600 a pop. That battery price is all that's holding me back from going with electric power.

    Wiz

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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/27/2003 10:29:01 AM   
    SALMONBUG



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    Status: online     		thanks for nice pics and coments, mine will arrive soon I hope, it apear from your pics that it can be build on a table smaller than the overhall dimensions of the plane. I was concerned by that. delta's one piece airframe are somethime diificult to frame up on conventional building boards

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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/28/2003 3:19:28 PM   
    Mike Wiz


     

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    Status: offline     		I built it up on a 30" door. As you saw in the photos the tip hangs over the edge....No big deal. This is issue mentioned in the manual.

    I put the motor box on it yeaterday while I was waiting for turkey. Also bolted up the gear and mounted the engine and wheels so I could get a feel for what the finnished plane will look like. I likes what I sees.....

    I'll try to get some more pics up in a day or two. Then it's on to covering. Still haven't come up with a color scheme yet. I'm thinking maybe a grey military jet like look on top with a bright red bottom with some more military looking markings. We'll see.....


    Cheers,

    Wiz

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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 11/28/2003 3:23:01 PM   
    SALMONBUG



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    Status: online     		would be nice with a jet style canopy

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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 12/5/2003 3:29:06 PM   
    DAZZ_2003


     

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    Status: offline     		It's my winter project:

    1. http://flymodel.narod.ru/su_profile.htm

    2. http://flymodel.narod.ru/delta_dog.htm


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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 12/24/2003 11:44:12 PM   
    SALMONBUG



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    Status: online     		I received mine, I started the subassemblies and I started to think about my retract instalation.
    As I said earlier I'll go with a 120 surpass.
    My first idea was to make a side or upside down instalation for cosmetic reason, but i think i'll change my mind and install the engine upright.
    reasons for this are

    1) there is a big portion of the wing to cut in case of side instalation (i plan to shorten the engine box one inche for balance consideration)
    2) side or inverted instalation mean that the exhaust will be on the bottom, and will blast oil and exhaust residues on the servos and in the weel well

    one last consideration. When you know that Bruce work with bandsaw and conventional tools to cut the kits, this guy make an incredibly accurate job, he really has laser eyes

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    RE: BTE Delta Vortex Construction Photos - 12/26/2003 5:27:49 PM   
    SALMONBUG



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