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Tree Hopper - 11/27/2003 3:07:30 PM   
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Has anyone built or flown the Tree Hopper by Mobile Airships Inc? RCM just did a review in the December issue. Any comments.
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RE: Tree Hopper - 1/31/2004 12:44:54 AM   
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I have just completed the tree hopper kit. The plans are O.K. , and the instructions aren't very clear. They point out the obvious. The laser cut parts are very nice and fit great. I am going to use a 26cc ryobi 4-stroke trimmer engine. I will post some pictures of the conversion when I begin machining the parts. I am going to use tricycle gear on it and am going to incorporate the nose gear into the engine mount. I also incorporated flaps on it. I want to build floats for it later on this spring and fly it off the Ohio River

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/11/2004 9:48:26 PM   
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How is progress on the floats for the Tree Hopper coming along? I think that it would make a wonderful float plane. Have you decided on the floats that you are going to use? I'm also interested in how the flap mod you made does. Any chance to fly it yet?

I have the kit which I hope to start on as soon as I get closer to finishing another project. I'm planning on a Zenoah G26.

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/15/2004 12:58:30 AM   
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I am considering this airplane to use with my US Engines 25cc engine ? How much does your plane weigh without the engine?

Thanks...Brian

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/15/2004 2:08:59 AM   
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Hi Guys,
I know they guy that designed that plane, i flew the prototype with a 21cc ryobi conversion, the us 25 and the zenoah 23 are perfect engine sfor the plane, the 26 might be a little much, they are very stable and very forgiving, Floats will be very nice on it.

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/18/2004 4:43:18 AM   
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Sorry I haven't been on for a while. I haven't gotten to fly the plane yet. I have just completed the 26cc Ryobi 4 stroke engine modification and started it tonight. I machined as much of the flywheel off as I could to reduce the weight. I still have some more machining to do on the spacer. The flywheel was quite unbalanced after I machined it and had to be balanced. I am going to talk with some friends who own a machine shop to find out if there is anyone who can computer balance the flywheel to get it perfect. I made the spacer from 2011 round stock and the engine mount is made of 6061. I may have seen the Jag mount . I am going to make another engine mount so the engine is farther away from the aluminum mounting plate (so the oil can be checked and changed) otherwise you have to take the engine off of the plane to check the oil. Also, on the next engine mount I am going to make provisions to attach the nose gear. I have also considered machining an oil pan out of a block of 6061, then you could put an oil drain plug in the bottom and an oil fill on the side. It would also be cool if the oil fill plug on the side had a sight glass.

About the floats......? does anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking of cutting my own and then covering them with something? If there are any good float kits that would hold up this plane. It weighs 6lbs 6.43oz without the landing gear and the servo for the nose wheel, and thats with the radio, battery, and 5 servos. Not sure what the engine weighs, but it is heavy.

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/22/2004 12:29:43 AM   
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I am going to order this airplane, I like the simple design with the engine hanging out in the breeze. Thanks for the weight data sands1926, I would also like to know what the little Ryobi 4C weighs if you get close to a scale. I am interested in trying a 4 stroke as you have. The only other one I have read about is the Honda and it is a little bit above my price limits. Harbor Freight has a reconditioned 4C Ryobi weed trimmer for $99. Good luck with yours!...Brian

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/22/2004 1:50:30 AM   
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Hey J-3 I will give you the 4c ryobi wt after I get it tuned up. It's running MUCH better after an hour of tinkering. There are some great recomendations for tuning the ryobi on this site. I E-Mailed DougT for information on what he had done to the Ryobi engine. He said to locktite all of the cylinder to crankcase bolts. I can see that this could be a problem because of the vibration. He also suggested using a lighter muffler. As far as modifications, I drilled out the main jet to .0160, as per Doug's findings. You can definately see the difference with the larger hole. Before the exhaust flames were a blue colour, now they are Orange- Yellow, but no smoke. I am planning on making a straight pipe for the exhaust, and will post the pictures when its done. Also, my engine was leaking like a 6-71 Detroit Diesel around the oil pan, and have ordered a new gasket from outdoor distributors. I understand that the engine that I am tinkering with is the generation II engine. Ryobi is producing a Generation III engine and from what I understand it is a better engine. I think the trimmer series is 1079r? I would try to get this one.

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/25/2004 10:19:35 PM   
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I ordered my Tree Hopper this afternoon. The guy I spoke with said the airplane weight was 14.5 pounds with the G26 engine installed. I am going to use my US 25cc which will require I put the servos and battery in the tail. I am hoping I can get it to balance without having to add ballast. This airplane should be a nice flying rig for the small gas engines....Brian

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/28/2004 2:32:35 AM   
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Hi Brian,

I've just started my Treehopper and have been working on the fuse. Notes so far:

1) In the kit I got, I had to trim former F2 1/4" at the bottom so that it would sit on top of the 1/4" ply landing gear plate.

2) I'm not sure why there is a joint adjacent to F2 in the fuselage side pieces;these are a butt joint and seemed to me to be a trouble spot. I added a 1/16" by 3/4" ply doubler along this joint (in front of F2) inside the fuse to beef it up (I hate to admit this but for possibly overkill, I also added some triangle stock on top of that).

3) I cut a new wider firewall (about 3/4" wider) to accommodate the back mounting plate of the (inverted) G26 I'm planning on using.

4) The connection between both elevator halves is two 1/8" ply plates glued together. I added some 1/8" wire between the two ply pieces to make it more rigid and durable (and a little heavier).

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/28/2004 5:18:17 PM   
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Hey TRoc, I have another project I am working on as well, but as soon as UPS delivers my Tree Hopper I am going to get started right away. Funny you should mention the joint in the fuse sides, that was the first thing I was conerned about when I saw the pictures of the side piece on their web page. If the fuselage side is two pieces, you would think there would be a doubler in this area. The wood list says there are 4 hard balsa fuselage longerons. Do the run the full length of the fuselage??

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/28/2004 9:04:34 PM   
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Hi J-3

Here is a pic of the F2 area (the 3/4" by 1/16" ply "doubler" that I mentioned previously is actually a tripler). Except for this joint by F2, I think the fuselage is VERY substantial, rugged and a piece of cake to build.

The 4 hard balsa fuselage longerons on the top run from just behind the wing to the tail and on the bottom run from just behind the ply landing gear plate to the tail. They provide a good surface to glue the 1/8" balsa top and bottom sheeting (instead of gluing the sheeting just to the end grain of the ply fuse sides).

I'm really looking forward to flying this thing.

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/29/2004 2:11:40 AM   
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Hi TRoc, Good photo, I see what you are saying about that joint. Looks like you have done a great job integrating the 1/16 ply. I am anxious to hear a few flight reports with the various engines being used. I should have my kit in another day or two...Brian

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RE: Tree Hopper - 3/29/2004 5:43:05 AM   
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How much do they cost, and where do you get in touch with them? I just googled the company name and came up empty.

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