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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/13/2003 1:35:55 AM   
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Mongo---Sorry about that...All these years Gordon had me believing otherwise....At least he never told me any different!! I guess I could have extracted this from him over a large pizza and a six pack. My local hobby shop didn't carry R/C Report until after you had stopped writing. Why did you stop???

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/13/2003 4:46:13 PM   
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lack of interest amoungst his subscriber base at the time. it was too soon for em.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/14/2003 1:04:43 AM   
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Hey Hossdung, alias Cain, if anyone has diarrhia of the mouth its you. And you still haven't answered the question of why you QUIT THE VP POSITION IN MIDSTREAM, talk about other people. You and Greene are P"o only because what I have asked you can't or won't answer. I don't know either Stillman or McNeill. So what I have not offered an opinion on either one. So where do you two remnants from the TELETUBBIES show get off calling inquisitive minds feces and such. Your ignorance is only second to your stupidity.
I haven't bad mouth either Stillman or McNeill I just asked questions. Whats he done?
And I'll ask it again Why did you resign "O gutless wonder" with a big mouth.
or maybe I'll call you Tinky-Winky.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/14/2003 1:16:56 AM   
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excaliber

Your posts have little to do with the McNiell thread. Please start a new one of your choice if you can't contribute anything meaningful to this one.

Red S.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/14/2003 1:48:05 AM   
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EX caliber: "And you still haven't answered the question of why you QUIT THE VP POSITION IN MIDSTREAM, talk about other people>>>"

That question has been answered many times. No BFD!

Tell me who you are and where you're from and I will repeat the story.

So whatever you call yourself, excaliber, easy tiger, whatever , I like "rooster-fish" better and in my vernacular the name has no relationship concerning Nematistius Pectoralis. It does however seem to fit your displayed personality very well.
Actually, I am surprised that you have yet to break the code.

So, rooster-fish, the ball is in YOUR court.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/14/2003 3:08:18 AM   
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Red, go back to the start of this thread. Troll asked a question and I followed. So far I still haven't seen any answers except to go to a web site. You insinuated I'm a McNeill supporter, I met him once. Does that make me a supporter of him. I did not start the feces, diarrhea thing. And I don't have to take his crap either. So HE can look up a word and translate it in latin.oh my I'm impressed.
As for the email. Its Ok for other prime individuals to jump on someone but retaliation is verbotin. If Hossfly cleans up his act So will I.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/14/2003 4:41:48 AM   
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Hossfly,
It is you who is in the wrong. You don't change opinions by flinging mud. You only strengthen their present opinion. Red seems to have learned that. Could you please try?

I think Mr. McNeil was into free flight models at one time. I don't have anything against that, but he doesn't seem intrested enought in models to learn that an Ultimate isn't a Klotz airplane. So I am in Mr. Stillmans camp. Oh. If you need radio service you can call him, he is very honest and direct.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/17/2003 2:29:18 AM   
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You can also read the latest issue of RCM concerning Tony Stillman.....Nothing but kudos for his involvement in managing the F3-A team. There's plenty of info already out there if you have a genuine couriosity for Tony Stillman. For me, or any one of us to just rehash all of this at whim of Excaliber, or anyone else like him, would be a waste of time. Excaliber, no one here is your mommy and needs to do anything for your here that you couldn't do on your own!!! Get busy searching, 'cause there's LOTS to read.

You still haven't answered my question concerning if you even reside in district V??? If not, then why do you even care??? Trust me...If there was a way for me to find out on my OWN I would have done so!!!!

As far as the TeleTubbies go.....My 2 1/2 year old son and I watch this show religiously every day---Sometimes we watch it SEVERAL times a day (You know how toddlers can be. ) . I've grown to like them.

Kevin

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/17/2003 3:05:43 AM   
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All this enlightening discussion about telletubbies aside (which I don't know a damn thing about) I have dealt with Tony Stillman in his store, and I have used him for radio repairs in the past. He was honest and helpfull. When the last election time rolled around I called him and asked him about several of the issues that I was conerned with. As an active jet pilot I am always interested in a candidates views about turbines, I am also interested in how a candidate views other crucial topics, such as insurance, frequency issues and other issues that might be facing our district, or hobby in general. I got clear concise answers, I also got some answers that I did not expect, Tony told me on one issue I asked in particular about that he did not know and had not even considered the issue. I do not remember what the issue was at the time but I was impressed by his answer. I have spoken with Jim McNeil on several occasions as well. Jim proceeded to tell me all about a scale jet that I modelled at the TN Jets event last summer, he took my picture with the airplane then proceeded to ask me what airplane it was....sorry folks but I could not help but laugh after I had just been given a dissertation about the virtues of my airplane in combat. I have called Jim and asked him about several issues as well and have had less than favorable answers. He does not seem to have a good grasp upon the real issues. I was involved in a conversation with him regarding the turbine regulations and several of us had to explain multiple times what we wanted to see accomplished. He did not understand until we repeated the conversation at least 10 times. I still don't know if he understood what we were trying to impress on him what our concerns were. I did find him to be a gentleman and willing to listen but in a conversation with him about a month ago he had his mind made up about an issue and would not even listen to what my concerns were as an active modeller. I have invited him to the Mississippi Afterburner jet event every year for the last 4 years and he rsponds via email, but never shows up, and then claims he did not know about it after the event is over. I don't expect to see my District VP at every event I attend in the district but I do expect him to listen to what I have to say, and at least be able to carry on an intelligent conversation with me even if his opinion differs from mine. Jim has formed some opinions with regard to the turbines yet has not taken the time to educate himself about them. He is not a current modeller and in my opinion can't adequetly represent modellers if he is not active. Tony Stillman on the other hand is an active modeller, is involved with the frequency comittee, and at least flies RC on a regular basis. I would not even care if Jim McNeil built free flight airplanes or even static models. He does not model at all.

Which do you really want representing you?

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/17/2003 3:33:54 AM   
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Thanks, David, for your thorough post!!!

My complaint with individuals such as Excaliber is that glowing support for Tony Stillman, like David's, has been written and rewritten SEVERAL times in these and other forums if a guy just has the want to learn. David, as well as many other individuals, has gone the extra mile to find out for himself just what a candidate stands for....

Again, David, thanks for the post!!!

Kevin

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/17/2003 4:13:46 AM   
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Well as suggested by some. I did get of my duff(cleaned up not to offend) and went searching for info on T Stillman. I found a few posts saying he is a nice guy, and helpfull.
Also read his campaign statement. And using that info I applied it to the qualifications of the Hall of Fame Award. #152 PDF documents www. modelaircraft.org.
Now according to his own statements from the campaign statement. out of 5 major parts and 24 sub parts he fits only a few
1) he is a competitor
2) he is a CD with many events local, national and USA
3) he has held offices in local and national areas (clubs & Nsrca )
4) he has his own business relating to the hobby business
5) he is a nice guy, no catagory for this on the form.
Now I have no other info to go by at this point. but the above seems awful light for being a Hall of Fame inductee considering the qualifications listed.
And like J_R mentioned, to have a background on a candidate for VP regardless of disrict would be, if nothing else informative.
Now I have satisfied my own question. ?????????????????????????????

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/17/2003 5:02:34 AM   
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Excaliber,

You need to get off of your duff just one more time...PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL HIM if your not satisfied with what you have read!!! SHEESH....I will ask you again since you have failed to answer...Are you a district V resident???

Kevin

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/17/2003 5:21:39 AM   
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Hmmm... Let's get something straight here. This is my thread and I will do the trolling round here. OK! Start your own thread if you want to troll BTW this thread is about McNeill not Stillman...there is a thread for him eleswhere.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/17/2003 2:44:19 PM   
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Kevin,
Strictly from a logical standpoint......all you points are valid except for asking if Excaliber is in District V. Other than your satisfying your curiosity it has no bearing on the validity of his arguement and if he is not would only lead to ad hominem retorts.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/17/2003 10:41:37 PM   
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Basin Bum,

I think that it is valid to ask Excaliber if he is a member of District V....Why??? What is his interest in this election if he is not a member of District V? Why should he even care?? His lack of response to this question leads me, and probably others, to believe that the only motive Excaliber has is to stir the pot up a little. As a full fledged member of District V I have a vested interest in the upcoming election. Re-read David Reid's post to see what we're up against!!!

Excaliber believes that Tony Stillman's resume is a little light...I don't believe so, but that's just a matter of opinion which both Excaliber and I are certainly entitled to. I ask, light compared to what---Jim McNeil???

I have nothing against Jim McNeil on a personal level. I do have a problem with a man that isn't an active modeler, is out of touch (technology wise) with his district's members, and has had others run "against" him to dilute a viable challenger's vote. If this is news to any of you then you need to do some digging for yourselves. Take a look at the latest issue of Model Aviation and FOCUS on Jim McNeil's column...Tell me---How many airplanes do you see in the photos??? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Jim is using M/A as a political tool, by rubbing elbows and trying to capture as many faces as he can as to garner votes...PATHETIC!!!

Anyway---All I'm doing is rehashing what others have written....It's all here..............

Kevin

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