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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/18/2003 8:39:48 PM   
Jim Branaum


 

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ORIGINAL: Hossfly

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ORIGINAL: J Harper

Boy does this kind of stuff sound familiar or what? Politics is on it's way to destroying our great country and now it is working on our hobby. Jeesh! Why don't some of you quit your arguing and go fly and relax a while. Now that's my $.02 so have a nice day.



Mr. J Harper, In my not-so-humble- opinion, YOU are what is destroying the country and the SPORT (hobby). Because, whenever things get hot, you and those like you run to whatever amuses you. It is NOT politics that ruins things, it is those that LACK the interest and intestinal fortitude to do something about what the politicians do to you that ruins things. Of course you simply perform as you are so well trained by the social elitists. That makes life easy for you as you are not required to think, or perform with responsibility.

Therefore IMO you have an AMA president that dotes more on his future in insurance rather than promoting model aviation as a worthwhile activity in education, hobby, recreation and sport.
Therefore you have an Executive VP that can/will only parrot the work performed by others, i.e. AMA's annual audit report, and never informs the membership about the future budget, what should be looked at, options, etc.
Therefore, being in Texas, you are stuck with the status quo VP that performs absolutely nothing of value for model aviation, other than using that ELECTED position to manage a small trade - show which brings attention to himself.

So go fly. It's the best you can do.



It never ceases to amaze me how little you seem to think of your fellow modeler. That is almost a odd as how much you enjoy publicly throwing rocks at everyone else who does not bow down to your obviously vastly superior intellect. I guess everyone needs a hobby, mine is modeling and flying.

For the New Year, why don't you sell your computer and take your own recommendation to Mr. Harper to heart for yourself. It might help your attitude, health, and friendships.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/18/2003 9:42:00 PM   
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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/18/2003 10:29:25 PM   
Mike in DC


 

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Status: offline 		Who the hell are the "social elitists" who have trained Harper and his fellow country-destroyers? How did they accomplish this feat? What will they train Harper to do next?

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/19/2003 12:45:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hossfly

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ORIGINAL: J Harper

Boy does this kind of stuff sound familiar or what? Politics is on it's way to destroying our great country and now it is working on our hobby. Jeesh! Why don't some of you quit your arguing and go fly and relax a while. Now that's my $.02 so have a nice day.



Mr. J Harper, In my not-so-humble- opinion, YOU are what is destroying the country and the SPORT (hobby). Because, whenever things get hot, you and those like you run to whatever amuses you. It is NOT politics that ruins things, it is those that LACK the interest and intestinal fortitude to do something about what the politicians do to you that ruins things. Of course you simply perform as you are so well trained by the social elitists. That makes life easy for you as you are not required to think, or perform with responsibility.

Therefore IMO you have an AMA president that dotes more on his future in insurance rather than promoting model aviation as a worthwhile activity in education, hobby, recreation and sport.
Therefore you have an Executive VP that can/will only parrot the work performed by others, i.e. AMA's annual audit report, and never informs the membership about the future budget, what should be looked at, options, etc.
Therefore, being in Texas, you are stuck with the status quo VP that performs absolutely nothing of value for model aviation, other than using that ELECTED position to manage a small trade - show which brings attention to himself.

So go fly. It's the best you can do.



hmmm...words of a true politician...just not a very good one tho ROTFLMAOPIMP
BTW there is a compliment in there somewhere unless you desire to be a "good" politician...if so go for the the big boy's job...why stop at a piddly VP position? Heck go for the gusto and unseat Bush next round.

FWIW J Harper I see your point.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/19/2003 2:00:12 PM   
Sport_Pilot



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That is almost a odd as how much you enjoy publicly throwing rocks at everyone else who does not bow down to your obviously vastly superior intellect.


Amen! Anyone who cuses out members in their PM's do not deserve to be in charge!

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/20/2003 2:45:05 AM   
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We agree on one thing....Whomever we elect to the EC is VERY important as it could affect your aspect of the hobby in a negative manner. Jim McNeil's voting record has already affected mine.

I suggested calling Tony not to get him to pat himself on the back but to get a feel for what he stands for. Nothing is better than first hand information. How do you feel about Jim McNeil???

If you called Tony I would bet that he would be glad to discuss your concerns.

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Those of you that want to shrug all of this discussion off as political rhetoric, let me give you a little insight.....Things have already happened within the AMA that directly affects my ability to go out and "just have fun and fly". (I fly jets.) Some of our 3D bretheren have had rules imposed on their style of flying. (One rule in particular has all of them in an uproar.) It won't be long before the Chicken Littles' and Henny Pennys' of the AMA start screaming that the sky is falling on YOUR facet of the hobby. Over regulation seems to be the AMA's answer to the ever increasing scrutiny of the insurance industry's eye. Electing individuals to the EC that are pro-active and are willing to think outside of the box to solve these problems is what we need. Jim McNeil is not that man.

Kevin

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/20/2003 6:36:55 PM   
Mike in DC


 

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Status: offline 		Horrace, any second thoughts on your reply to J Harper? From the looks of it, the guy is asking folks to keep things in perspective and have some fun, and you reply that him and folks like him are destroying the country. Again, on the surface, this looks like a totally inappropriate mean-spirited over-reaction. A post like yours is fine for RCU, which is largely about entertainment, but you've run for office in the past, and might in the future. If you run again, I'll bet RCU members will be reminded of this message frequently, at which point apologies will seem self-serving.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/21/2003 3:14:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mike in DC

Horrace, any second thoughts on your reply to J Harper? From the looks of it, the guy is asking folks to keep things in perspective and have some fun, and you reply that him and folks like him are destroying the country. Again, on the surface, this looks like a totally inappropriate mean-spirited over-reaction. A post like yours is fine for RCU, which is largely about entertainment, but you've run for office in the past, and might in the future. If you run again, I'll bet RCU members will be reminded of this message frequently, at which point apologies will seem self-serving.


Thank you Mike for your concern. However we could argue these things forever, and right or wrong nothing will change. Whether it be national, state, or local elections, or even organizational, an active minority controls the elections because they -- the minority -- vote, and the non-active wonders why things are as they are. I have no sympathy for the in-active, however I get a bit POed when I have to live under the active minority's rules.

As to Office, I have been elected, been reelected, been beat, and beat, and beat again. I am through with pursuing any elected AMA positions.
My interests are again going through a metamorphosis. While AMA and model aviation will always be in my mind and my concern, I no longer plan to place AMA's business in a place that will interfere with whatever I want otherwise to do.
As the troll said, I am a poor politician. I never professed to be a politician of any status. My personality is as previously stated by someone much beyond my abilities, "Damn the torpedoes, Full steam ahead."

When a VP, I got results, and I would have gotten many results had I now been elected again. The membership doesn't care for results that advance model aviation. Therefore no more time will be wasted here in that pursuit beyond my own personal satisfactions.

No apoligies to anyone for anything.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/21/2003 4:52:04 PM   
Mike in DC


 

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Status: offline 		Fair enough, Horrace, and well said. You actually make a lot of sense, and I'm glad you added this level-headed post to put the other in perspective.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/22/2003 3:14:22 PM   
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Over regulation seems to be the AMA's answer to the ever increasing scrutiny of the insurance industry's eye. Electing individuals to the EC that are pro-active and are willing to think outside of the box to solve these problems is what we need. Jim McNeil is not that man.



That is my concern over the present District 5 leadership void. I want only the best for AMA and feel that it needs the best forward-thinking leadership which is capable of looking beyond getting re-elected.

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RE: Jim McNeill ... Why? - 12/30/2003 4:26:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Get a life Hossfly! It's only a hobby! The inactive don't care because their job, education, children, politics (that is the real kind IE government), that is their life is more important to them. If the AMA and or this hobby is your life then IMO you don't have a life. Instead the AMA should make it clear that the members should not vote at all, unless they understand who the candidates are. Instead of sending out ballots to each member they should ask that members request ballots, this will reduce the number of members fwho vote for a candidate because they are incumbant or because they are famous (in our hobby at least).

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