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exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/15/2003 3:16:27 AM   
insaneclown


 

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Status: offline 		Im getting ready to get a new transmitter and I wanted to know if expo is a must for 3d flying. Can I get by without it. It will save me alot of money on my purchase of a radio.
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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/15/2003 3:22:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		no but if you have insane control throw it sure make it smoother to fly nice . i use the heck out of it but i only run 1 rate setting . and sometimes on my throttle i run pipes so it makes it easer to hold a steady hover.

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/15/2003 4:01:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you're getting into 3D, it'd probably be worth it to spend some extra $'s on a good computer radio. Dual rates, expo, model memory, and mixing are some of the features you'll get out of a good radio. Expo may be a good idea depending on your thumb skills, and IMO dual rates are a must for 3D ships.

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/15/2003 5:12:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		In answer to your question - the new very inexpensive JR 6 channel XP6102 --is perfect for lil lectrics -
not only do you have expos on all three axis - ---you can assign all of itto one switch - so you can make up a " hover till the cows come home setup ' and hit the switch for your other preferred setup.
I got mine with the smallest Rx on FM- tho you can get en with the 700 or 770 PCM for a few more bucks .
there is no module - in the TX - just switch crystals .
I also fly the 10X JR which has a few more setups for aircraft -- but the new 6 channel is a super setup for lots less $$

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/23/2003 5:45:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would say expo is not must. Having an option would give you a room for experiment though.

I have been flying T3D CAP for about 20 hrs. At first I put about +50% expo on all axis. Controls still felt quite sensitive, but I was able to fly around smoothly. After about 15 hrs or so later, it started to feel somewhat sluggish. Now I have no expo on rudder, and +20% on aileron and elevator. It is quite likely I might remove expo altogether eventually.

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/23/2003 11:57:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I use full throws with no expo and it works great


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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/26/2003 5:02:20 AM   
Bill Mixon


 

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Status: offline 		Expo isn't a must have.
I don't use expo on any of my 3D planes, it gives sluggish control. And I don't care to switch back and to with the switches.
The cost of a good radio over a plain jane bottom of the line radio isn't that big of a deal. Especially when you consider the various programing options, model memory, etc as others have mentioned above.

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the new very inexpensive JR 6 channel XP6102 --is perfect for lil lectrics -


I agree.
If I had to buy a 6 ch computer radio right now, the 6102 would be the one. Good features at a good price.

Bill

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/26/2003 4:34:52 PM   
Henke Torphammar



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Status: offline 		you won´t find a "new" tx without expo and stuff...

I must say it´s very individual, but I use 30% expo and 50degree throws, and no dualrates. (rudder -30 to 10% expo as it need to be rapid)

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/26/2003 4:53:22 PM   
Bill Mixon


 

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you won´t find a "new" tx without expo and stuff...


Actually, there are a lot of new non-computer, 4 ch transmitters without expo, programable mixes etc.

Futaba skysport
Jr Quattro
Some of the Hitec's
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Bill

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/27/2003 6:09:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I use expo. although you dont have to have it, I am new to 3-D and wouldnt be doing what I am w/out it. It was a ++ for me and I am glad I have a radio with it.

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/27/2003 10:11:52 PM   
Turbobruce


 

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Status: offline 		If you want to look good at what you are doing get expo. I flew for 17 years before swithcing and it has made me a better 3d pilot by doing so. This is a no brainer, get expo and you wont be sorry. Find one TOC pilot out there that doesn't use expo. I would bet you can't find one. In my opinion it will make you a better pilot at 3d. You will find that it will help you with over correcting while in a hover,torque roll etc,etc. Just an opinion.

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/28/2003 2:58:47 AM   
Henke Torphammar



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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Mixon

quote:

you won´t find a "new" tx without expo and stuff...


Actually, there are a lot of new non-computer, 4 ch transmitters without expo, programable mixes etc.

Futaba skysport
Jr Quattro
Some of the Hitec's
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Bill



I know, that´s why I wrote "new" as in new technology computer tx, thought he wanted something better then he got....

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/28/2003 4:48:08 AM   
Bill Mixon


 

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Status: offline 		I figured that that's what you meant, Henke.
I just wanted to make it more clear for others that might interpret it the wrong way.

Bill

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/28/2003 6:59:07 AM   
PLANEBENDER


 

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Status: offline 		For me it's 60% across the board.

< Message edited by PLANEBENDER -- 12/28/2003 7:07:11 AM >

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RE: exponential??? a must for 3d??? - 12/28/2003 7:10:55 AM   
PLANEBENDER


 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: shortman

I use full throws with no expo and it works great


Yea well I would love to see you fly one of my true 3-D set ups and see how gental it would fly...LOL


Dave

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