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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/19/2004 10:59:21 PM   
    Ztrex


     

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    Well its been a while but I finally got some stuff to put up here and welcome comments of any kind that will help me correct or modify and assist in building the plane right. Here are the wing and fuse at its current stage. Or maybe not How do you add pictures to these posts. Help!

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/20/2004 12:02:05 AM   
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    You have to first hit the reply button, NOT the fast reply at the bottom of the page. There you'll see in the bottom left hand corner "upload images!" . Use that and you're on your way.

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/20/2004 4:27:07 AM   
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    Weighed my .60 corsair last night and I'm looking at 7.5 lbs with wing complete w/retracts and painted, and with the fuse ready to be covered. That weight was also minus fuse servos, fuel tank, batt, rx, and rudder/elevs. I'm figuring(hoping) 9# at most. Just a couple of weeks now! Just in time for the new season.

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/20/2004 5:41:33 AM   
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    Hi Guys, I am defintely going to build a Top Flight Corsair this year. I just bought a Hangar 9 150 size P51 that I plan to fly along with my original EZ Dago Red while I build some planes this year. I am wondering if you guys can help me with some questions? I am not sure if I want to build the 1/5 scale or the 1/7 scale plane I see that Tower is selling the 1/5 scale kit again. I have never had a gasoline engine in my 19 years of flying and I am guessing the 1/5 scale plane needs a gas engine? I wouldnt mind building the big one since I will be building anyway. I will watch this thread for tips on engines and tips. I will use the CJM retracts in either plane. If I built the big plane can you guys give me some ideas on engines please. Any ideas will be appreciated as always.
    Thanks Viper

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/20/2004 1:48:45 PM   
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    viper21,
    Top Flite Doesn't make a Corsair in either of the scales you listed, altho they (Top Flite) may refer to them as such. The smaller one, having a span of 62", is actaully 1/8 scale. The larger one with 85" span is larger than 1/6 scale, but not even close to being 1/5 scale.

    I don't have any experience with the larger one, and lot's of experience with the smaller one (both versions: 'red box' and Gold Edition), and based on what I know and have heard, I would choose another manufacturer if I wanted a bigger one. Reason: scale accuracy, there are other kit makers who have more accurate kits in the largere sizes, ALTHO either version (large or small) can be made into very very scale, great looking and great flying aircraft IF you do some research and are able to make adjustments to the plans. Proof of that is in an earlier post in this thread by "gary9648": a truely great looking Top Flite Giant Scale Corsair in authentic tri-color scheme. Did I mention GREAT JOB, gary9648? Really, this what a Corsair should look like, sure would like to see that one at a warbird fly-in some day.

    On retracts: while the Robart 615s which are recommended for the 1/8 scale versions have a bad reputation, Robart makes some EXCELLENT retracts for the larger scale Corsairs, the 148s. The 148s are entirely different from the 615s, made much better and look absolutely fantastic. Thus, I would recommend going with Robarts IF you choose the larger scale.

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/20/2004 6:06:40 PM   
    viper21


     

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    Corsair Jock, can you please give me names of the kit makers of the larger size Corsair? I didnt know that the Top Flight Corsair was that far out of scale and that the sizes where that far off. Know I have not done any research on the plane other than a 3 view and some color schemes I found online. If I am going to build a big Corsair I would want it to be scale otherwise I may as well build a sport plane.
    Is the smaller TF Corsair scale or close to it I haven't made up my mind on how big I want to go yet.
    Thanks Much Viper

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/20/2004 6:58:51 PM   
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    Let me re-phase my statement: there are many other PLANS available, most of which are available as kits thru kit cutters, and widely avaiable fiberglass cowl and molded canopies. The list is long, and I wouldn't venture trying to name them all, perhaps other readers could help? There are a few kits as well: the old Royal giant scale Corsair, but I don't recall the scale or how big it is, and I don't know if it is still offered as a Marutaka kit, and then there is Iron Bay (formerly Byron). Many others are named in another thread: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Dream_Corsair_Kit%21%21%21/m_1404736/tm.htm

    As for the scale accuracy of the smaller Top Flite kit: read thru my thread " 1/8 Scale Top Flite Corsair Mods", it points out most of the inaccuracies and lack of detail, and how to correct them.
    It is my understanding the the Top Flite Giant Scale Corsair is basically an enlarged version of the smaller one, and therefor only marginally more accurate.
    This is not to say they are bad designs, there are both proven performers and can be modified to be a pretty scale aircraft.

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/20/2004 7:14:46 PM   
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    Hobby Barn carries the Maratuka line (Royal) and lists the larger Corsair as 1/5 scale with a wing span of 98 5/16".

    The website is: www.hobbybarn.com

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/20/2004 7:41:37 PM   
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    Thanks Guy's, I would settle for a semi scale Corsair before I built a Royal kit they are allot of work. I helped a buddy of mine build their big P51 and it was real building. Nothing like building a Top Flight kit it took us a year but it was really beautiful when it was finished. I will look at some of the Bob Holman plans I know that he has some good Brian Taylor plans. But I am not going to compete with the plane nor am I planning to go to the scale masters So I will most likely build the larger Top Flight and I may do some work on it to make it look a little better but its not a bad looking plane at least I dont think so. But I will check out your thread Corsair Jock and thanks for the help guys.
    Viper

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/20/2004 7:49:50 PM   
    kram51



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    Viper you can't go wrong with the TF either. I'm building the 60 size according to Corsairjock's thread. It's a good one!

    What ever you build make sure you keep us posted!

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/20/2004 8:03:52 PM   
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    My favored Cover and finish is worldtex or a similar fabric, and primer to fill the weave then paint. It is almost as strong as Glass, definitely lighter, and I can achieve an excellent scale like finish on it. I used to use super coverite or silkspun coverite, but that unfortunately is No Longer available. otherwise lightweight Sig Koverall stuck on with dope and then filled and finished with a good urethane fill primer works awesome!!!!
    good luck gents with whatever finish you choose!
    Mike

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    RE: TF F4U Corsair Project 2004 - 1/21/2004 12:40:10 AM   
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    like corsairhock said it is slightly out of scale in that it doesent provide details that would make it compleatly scale such as the scale flaps, they are good, but not 100% accurate, however, IMO its a much more enjoyable build than spending a year plus cutting your own plane. and as was also said if built correctly and with the right mods looks good. (BTW you need retracts to go for scale, if your not thinking of retracts then dont bother making it scale.)

    ill have pics of my under construction as soon as i get my pics off my camera.

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    RE: TF F4U <span class= - 1/22/2004 8:25:30 PM   
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    Need some advice. I am building the top flite corsair. I have the fuselage built and skinned and plan on painting.What is the best covering for the elevator and rudder that is paintable.Shouldn't this step also be done before installation or does it matter just seems it would be easier to cover before installation. Are you guys building using the supplied tail wheel or is there a better one available or retractable?

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    RE: TF F4U <span class= - 1/23/2004 2:52:21 AM   
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    Worldtex works great for covering the tail surfaces, as it is a fabric and easily paintable. otherwise Coverite 21st century fabric works well!
    Mike

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    RE: TF F4U <span class= - 1/23/2004 6:42:34 PM   
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    Here's my TF Corsair I'm sorry I didn't detail it different and glassed it instead off monokote O.S.91fx 14/7 3 blade have static prop also![image]

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