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Top Flite F4U Corsair Gold Edition. I have been reading a lot of the post here and believe that I will likely get the best advice for building this plane! I have started all basic framing and am looking for help and tips as I go. I will be posting in progress photos! I welcome all suggestions and hope to address issues as they come up. Like proper engine size! Coverings! Incidence! Prop size! Mechanical connections! and on and on!
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Ztrex, Great to see another bent wing take form. I started mine late Jan,03 and am close to covering with glass. During that time CorsairJock, Juice and Shupack have had great threads about the TF Corsair. Dionysusbacchus has the Mother of all Corsair threads with his Royal project that can help also. Do a search of their threads. There are other good contributors out there so don't anyone get slighted if not named but most of the info and dialog centered around these fellas for me at least and I've incorporated alot of their ideas into my Corsair. Work hard to keep it light. Good luck, Pete
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Hi Guys, Thanks for the replies.
Pete- When you say glass are you talking Fiberglass and how much weight does that add as opposed to other coverings. How light does the plane need to be and how much of a factor is the engine vs weight?
Juice- My plan is a scale job and currently I won't be doing the retracts cause I figured that the first few landings might be too rough and my understanding is that retracts can't take a lot of abuse. Also I will be landing on a grass field for now. I was hoping to build for retracts and install at a later date. Can this be done?
David- Whats a Sea Fury? Excuse my Ignorance! I fell in love with the corsair so many years ago and built a static model then but now that I finally got rid of my old lady I'm letting it all hang out and finally building a plane that will fly.
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Hi Guys, Thanks for the replies.
Pete- When you say glass are you talking Fiberglass and how much weight does that add as opposed to other coverings. How light does the plane need to be and how much of a factor is the engine vs weight?
Juice- My plan is a scale job and currently I won't be doing the retracts cause I figured that the first few landings might be too rough and my understanding is that retracts can't take a lot of abuse. Also I will be landing on a grass field for now. I was hoping to build for retracts and install at a later date. Can this be done?
David- Whats a Sea Fury? Excuse my Ignorance! I fell in love with the corsair so many years ago and built a static model then but now that I finally got rid of my old lady I'm letting it all hang out and finally building a plane that will fly.
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ORIGINAL: Ztrex
Hi Guys, Thanks for the replies.
Pete- When you say glass are you talking Fiberglass and how much weight does that add as opposed to other coverings. How light does the plane need to be and how much of a factor is the engine vs weight?
Juice- My plan is a scale job and currently I won't be doing the retracts cause I figured that the first few landings might be too rough and my understanding is that retracts can't take a lot of abuse. Also I will be landing on a grass field for now. I was hoping to build for retracts and install at a later date. Can this be done?
Bob
Bob, I'm covering the plane with 0.5 oz fiberglass cloth with Lacquer based polyurethane instead of film covering like Monokote or Ultracote. This type of covering allows the plane to be painted and weathered for a better scale look. The finish also holds up better to "Hanger Rash". Fiberglassing can be done with Polyurethane or Epoxy and there are pros and cons to both. Paint may be Latex but then it needs to be fuelproofed with a clearcoat. There are fuelproof paints too. Lots of info just run some searches here and on rcwarbirds.com and rcscalebuilder.com
As for weight lighter is better. The wing loading of warbirds is higher than on sport planes so they fly different and you will need to change your flying style accordingly. The rcwarbird site has some info on warbird flying. If you can keep your Corsair to 10lb or less you will have a winner. That should be easier with no retracts and their supporting equipment.
I'm putting an RCV90 in mine. Plan on turning a MAS 20x12 prop trimmed to 19x12. Should look great. Lots of people using 60 size 2 strokes and 90 size 4 strokes with good performance. Decide on how you want to fly Scale or Speed. I don't recommend going larger but thats me.
Hope this sheds some light. Pete
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Thought I'd let let you guys know that the TF giant scale Corsair will get started soon. As soon as the Patriot is finished) Gonna have a fiberglas covering, paint, G-62, Flaps, retracts, retracting tail wheel and..... folding wings. Some project huh? Bought the plans from Bob Holman- very nice guy!! Check-out Earl Aunes Corsair with folding wings, very nicely done!!!
I just finished the TF giant scale P-51 which I'm going to try and upload.
Thanks, Mick Georgin Morehead City, NC (where we can fly almost year round)
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Hey Mick,
Your Mustang looks great! I hope the Corsair looks even better. I'm thinking about drawing up my own Bent Wing plans at some point in the next couple of years, so I'll have a F4U that 'ol Corsair Jock himself will drool over in envy... He's quite the scale detail fanatic when it comes to Boyington's mistress.
I had a TF .60 size Corsair that was a great flyer until I gunned the living daylights out of the ST .90 on take off, causing the battery to dislodge in her innards. The battery, (a heavy 6 volt) slid to the rear changing the CG enough so that when she dead sticked at 50 FT. in the air at the P.O.N.R. end of the runway she tip stalled and went in as I was full nose down and...oh well. She had just finished quite a one warbird air show with some great strafing runs at full throttle five feet off the runway deck. Everyone had stopped what they were doing to watch, and everyone saw her demise. Here's to "Dark Angel" may she R.I.P.
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Thanks for your comments!! I do enjoy building but when you travel as much as I do, it's hard to find time. I'm a Salesman and sell wood veneer products to the Furniture manufacturers. I sometimes take parts with me on the road and work on them in the hotel room. If you ever check in and find balsa dust or see someone with a big wing, it's probably me.
The P-51 is covered with glass cloth and all colors are painted with Rustoleum. I'll enclose another shot of the cockpit area. By the way, I think they've pulled the TF 1/6 scale Corsair kit already. I'd like to see them make a Giant scale Spitfire someday. Have a great weekend Mick Georgin
HI guys. I have started my gold edition corsair a few months ago.I have the wing framed up the tail surfaces built and the upper fuselage just built and sanded.I am going with separate servos for the ailerons and separate servos for the flaps and one for the retracts.I plan on glassing and painting I havent decidedon the engine yet but I know I will probably be at the upper end on weight.I will be nice to be building along with others at the same phases.I havent decided how scale to go yet Some of the guys building are incredible.I have been so impressed by what I have read and seen. Corsairjock and you other guys building the threads I would love to see the finished products in person.Anyway I will keep in touch with this thread and forward any Ideas and thoughts and hopefully learn from others as well. later guys
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