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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/7/2007 9:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Airbourne, I had a buddy CNC a set of cabanes from .084" inch sheet steel. They are not the problem anymore it's my 90* upper wing mounts. I had Great Planes sent the new set and the first flight the left one broke again. Hope these pics help.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/7/2007 10:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you can have him CNC you a single piece out of a tri - stock that is what I would recommend. I ended up using a similar setup when I fixed my cabane mounts. Honestly this kit has many problems that the everyday flyer will discover. My other bipes I could get away with flying MUCH harder and yet have no problems.

I think maybe half way through this thread there is a person who made the CNC cabane mounts. To my knowledge they are still holding up just fine. Like I said they looked to be made out of tri stock.

Another option is using the Stab mounting tabs used on 35-40% Cardens. These are very strong and I doubt would give. The other problem I had is that the upper wing itself does not have much for your cabane mounts to bite into. The real solution would be to mount the top wing like my Wild Hare Ultimate had or even the Sky Shark Eagle.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/7/2007 11:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		were can I find some of these stab mounting stabs? Do you have any pics of what it looks like? Thanks

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/7/2007 11:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a picture of what caused this planes down fall. I eventually got bummed about it and just put all my gear in my WH ultimate which flew 150% better! The control horns did not tough at all on the ground, but the flexing in the air caused them to get intangled in flight! I had to land my poor eagle upside down!



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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/7/2007 11:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Check it out here: http://www.****/forums/fg100/12300-aluminum-carden-bracket.html

Wow it blocks it out!! Its on (www.F L Y I N G G I A N T S.COM) Search aluminum stab bracket.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modific... - 3/13/2007 12:03 AM   
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I've made the decision to purchase the GP CE as my first gasser. I have a Zenoah G45 that I ploan on using. I would like to install a smoke system also. Do you think the G45 will be a good match for this plane? I've read some of the other threads concerning a problem with the cabane struts breaking and problems with the screw holes after assemblying and disassemblying the plane to take it back and forth to the field. It seems that GP has designed their 1/3 scale planes around the Fuji engines. However, I already thave the G45 and would like to use it. Any helpful suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modific... - 3/13/2007 1:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Gary, if I were you, I wouldn't buy a Christen Eagle for your first gasser. Let me explain why, first of all you don't say how much experience you have. Secondly, the Eagle is not a very forgiving airplane, it takes a lot of concentration. Thirdly, the first gasser will be intimidating, because of the size, I would start with something more along the trainer type to familiarize yourself with the gasser planes. Fourthly, I don't want you to get discouraged with gas airplanes, I love my gas planes, I just want you to too. So this post is not meant to disway you from trying, just trying to give you a heads up, and a fighting chance at finding success.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/13/2007 1:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		You would be far better off obtaining the new W/H Edge and putting that G-45 in it. Reasons; The Eagle/Pitts are for pretty experienced flyers. Those that have to ability and talent to be quick and accurate on the rudder and that can handle a plane that lands fast. The Edge will do everything the Eagle/Pitts will and more. It will fly casually or aggressively. It's easy to land at a very slow speed. It's quite forgiving for the operator. It's VERY difficult to stall it in a manner that would cause a loss of control, where with the Eagle/Pitts that's a very easy thing to do.

Will you have all the power you need with the G-45 to do all that you may want to do? Probably not, but you will have enough power to do about 95% of what you may want to do, and you'll have a plane at the end of the day. One that was designed for a gas engine, one that has a support forum that helps the first time gas flyer through all the hoops that they need to learn, with a plane that's extremely easy to set up, a plane that costs almost exactly the same amount that the Eagle/Pitts does, with a plane that will carry you forward in building experience and confidence. Once your wet feet have dried out you can go to a larger engine and do all that you'll ever be able to do.

If you're dead set on a biplane, and there's nothing wrong in that, the G/P 1.60 Ultimate would be a far better choice, offering a much greater range of flying styles and easy landing. It would also handle your engine.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/13/2007 3:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah the Eagle will not be much fun for your first gas plane. A lot can go wrong which may sour your first gas experience. Go with something along the lines of an Extra or Edge. May great brands to be had and all enjoyable. I would also recommend the Ultimate over the Eagle on any given day. Bipes fly much different than mono wing planes so be warned; a dead stick or too slow of an approach may equal a bag of balsa. Bipes stall fairly quickly and dont glide that well. Point the nose at the ground and flare at the last minute!

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/13/2007 3:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for the input gentlemen. As I continued my research yesterday, I came to realize that the Pitts and CE would be a handful based on all the posts I've read. I have about 10 years experience in the hobby but it's all been with nitro except for my boats which have the Zenoah marine engines. I'm a cabinetmaker/woodworker by trade and feel very comfortable with the building/modification(s) side of the hobby. I've just reached the point where I'm tired of cleaning up the nitro mess as the end of the flying day and I love the sound of the gas engines. I'll check out the W/H Edge that was recommended. But you guys know that some planes are just hard to resist. I'm still leaning towards a biplane and the GP Ultimate had been the one I was considering all winter (live in Maine). I was just concerned that the G45, because of it's weight wouldn't be a good match for the Ultimate. Thanks again for the input.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/13/2007 4:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello...thanks for the information. I just checked out the W/H Edge based on your recommendation. So you think the G45 will be alright in this plane for my first gas experience? In the write up a G62 is recommended so I thought I'd write you back and ask.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/13/2007 7:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gary,

The G45 will work fine for most things. The 62 is at the top end of the size scale. The 45 will fly the plane in most aerobatics but will be a bit short for all out 3D. You'll probably want to go a larger engine later if you want to fly 3D, depending on your disposable cash situation. It's too easy to change to another engine as you already know with your wood working background.

The Zenoahs are a little heavier than most of the purpose built 50cc engines, but locating the rudder servo in the tail takes care of the weight offset. The mounting holes are already there for those that desire to do than.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/14/2007 2:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks again for all your advice. I ordered my GP Ultimate this afternoon from my LHS. Should be in Friday. My hobby shop guy suggested looking into an electronic ignition for the G45. He said he thought the expense was worth the weight saved. But, he wasn't sure just how much weight it saved. Is this something I might consider versusuntil I make a decision on installing another engine? I plan on leaving any 3D flying to to my "cheap" foamies. There'll be no tears shed if/when one of those crash. One other question, will I be pushing the weight issue if I wanted to install a smoke system? All I'm looking for from this plane is something fun to fly, looks good and is a gasser. I'll leave the 3D stuff to the guys with more nimble fingers. Again, appreciate all the help.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/14/2007 3:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Send a PM to Ralph Cunningham. RCU handle is RCIGN1. He's the one that does the Zenoah ignition conversions. Also does a lot of weight saving work. He'll know exactly what the weights will be, and guarantees his ignitions (CH) for life.

There would be a substantial weight penalty for with the addition of smoke. Smoke oil does not go very far, so a smoke tank equal in size to the gas tank is near standard. Then you have the space and fit issues. It's up to you of course but I wouldn't do it again unless it was a really large plane, say 35% or better. It's not worth the effort from my perspective in smaller planes.

As for rudder servo placement in the Ultimate, I was referring to the Egde when I made that note and don't know what the Ultimate provides in the rear. Congratulations on your new plane. You made what I believe to be an excellent choice. You love the way it flies.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 4/14/2007 10:28 AM   
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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 8/9/2007 4:03 AM   
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6183410/tm.htm

i decided to buy a new one and install this gasser http://cgi.ebay.com/HH50T-50cc-TWIN-Gas-Engine-FOR-AIRPLANE-NEW-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ300136848843QQihZ020QQcategoryZ34055QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

the guy said me that the distance From plug cap to plug cap is 9-5/8". Cylinder head to cylinder head (with out spark plug) is 8".

Some one can help me if this engine is OK?? i want to have less vibrations (twin) go gas, but i dont now if this engine fits in the cowl without open it on the sides (sparkplug)

OK thanks to all guys

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 7/8/2008 5:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Does anyone have a spare set of struts Great Planes Christen Eagle II that they want to sell or get rid of laying around in their work shop? I need one strut bad but will use a pair if that is the only way you will let them go. Please email me at wlfisher@tx.rr.com.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 7/8/2008 8:54 AM   
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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 8/12/2008 5:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		AirborneSGT..........did you find any struts for a CE in your rummage box? FYI, I retired as a csm in 1992, after 32 years (60-92) of service. Are you still on active duty? THANKS FOR LOOKING

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modific... - 1/11/2009 11:39 PM   
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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modific... - 1/12/2009 1:43 AM   
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Anyone know where I can get instruction book PDF or send to me email,any help appreciated. gymm1000@yahoo.com thanks Randy

Randy,
Still available on GP's web site. Try this link:

http://www.greatplanes.com/manuals/discontinued.html

Scroll down to the Cristen Eagle.

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modific... - 1/12/2009 2:02 AM   
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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modific... - 1/31/2009 10:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm installing Da50 in my plane . What is the best way to install the bolts into the back of the firewall !!

It is so tight in there to install the bolts or is it better to us blind nuts .

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 1/31/2009 2:12 PM   
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Some one has tested the best incidence settingss?? Up and low wing???

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RE: Christen Eagle - Building, Alterations and Modifica... - 3/17/2009 7:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		It apears (I hope) that this ARF may become available again? Tower lists it as "Order Pending" (along with the 1/3 Pitts). I called Tower to ask if this was a mistake, and the woman who answered said it was available for back order...no estimated date. Price shown is $349.98. Wasn't it $399.99 before?

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