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Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 1/2/2004 5:36:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		The March 2000 M.A.N. had a construction article on Gary Allen's 1/3 scale Bücker Jungmeister. I ordered the plans and built one. This undoubtably was one of the nicest flying biplanes that I've flown. I had it about a year when a severe mid air turned it into a pile of sticks. I've built 3 giant scale planes since then but have wanted another Jungmeister.

Arizona Model Aircrafters http://www.arizonamodels.com/ puts out a short kit of this model. I recently bought one and I'm in the process of getting it ready to build. The laser cut parts are very accurate.

This plane attracted a lot of interest at every big bird flyin that I took it to. It is certainly not a run of the mill giant scale plane. It also qualifies as a warbird because the Germans and Swiss used it as an advanced aerobatic trainer for their Air Force. My first one was done in the German air show team colors. I'm going to do this one in the Swiss Air Force trainer colors. If you have building experience, this plane is pretty straight forward to build. The plans are very good. The flying wires are functional and necessary.

If there is some interest in this project I will provide construction photos in this thread as I go along. I will also provide hints and address building issues that I see. If you have been looking around for a giant scale plane that is a bit "different" then why not jump in and lets build one together.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 1/4/2004 10:29:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Big Bird:

I cannot afford a big one like that yet. But I do have one of the Pica kits I am gonna do some day. Your bird really did look great! I am sorry you lost it in a midair. That woulda made me mad. I would not mind it so much if I boo-boo'd it all by myself. Anyway grat lookin plane lets see photo's along the way. And some of the final product.

Mark Shuman

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 1/4/2004 11:25:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great looking plane. How much to build one for me????????? (I can get the kit)

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bucker Jungmeister - 1/5/2004 2:12:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mark, you will really enjoy your Pica Jungmeister someday. Anyone who has ever had a Jungmeister knows what a terrific flying bipe it is.

AJF--2, I wish I could build one for you. It would be the first one that I had ever built for anyone. However, I could never get the creative juices flowing if I were not building it for me.

I'll post some photos to this thread as I make progress.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bucker Jungmeister - 1/5/2004 6:10:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good thread , Ken. I flew Team Scale with Gary Allen with the Jungmeister in 2003 in several meets , and we're campaigning the Jungie again in 2004. Great flying plane , and the plan is accurate to Gary's three view, which three view was redrawn by Gary and ok'd by Dave Platt. Makes for a good contest bird, and is practical for everyday flying. I've found the G62 to be a great engine for this plane. Look forward to the thread.

Dorin Luck

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bucker Jungmeister - 1/5/2004 8:57:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have always been interested in the 1/3 scale Jungmeister and have wondered about the quality of the kits being offered. Although I haven't tried giant scale yet, I shall certainly be following your thread with great interest and appreciation.

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bucker Jungmeister - 1/5/2004 4:49:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dorian, thanks for jumping in here. I used a G62 on the first one but I have a Sachs based 4.2 that I'm going to use on this one. It's about the same weight as the G62. My first one weighed about 30#. I'm trying my best to get this one to come in around 25#. Good luck on the scale circuit this year.

quietflyer, the quality of this short kit from AMA is very good. Normally this is a scratch built plane from Gary's plans. If you want a high quality kit, get the plans and cut one out. Fortunately the cowl and fenders are available from Arizona Model Aircrafters and are very light and very high quality.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bucker Jungmeister - 1/5/2004 5:14:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		One mod on the last one that I made and will be carried forward into this one vastly simplifies assembly at the field. In the first photo you will notice the "H" bracket on the end of the wings. Instead of putting the anti rotation dowels on the center section of the wings, I put them on the outboard section. The "H" bracket is slotted where the dowels are so that after sliding the wing assembly onto the plane, the bracket can be slipped off and the wing assembly attached. The reverse takes place when disassembling the wing. After the wing assembly is off the plane 4-40 screws are screwed through the "H" bracket into the outer ribs. As you can see, the interplane struts and flying wires stay in place.

The second photo shows the results of the severe mid air.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bucker Jungmeister - 1/17/2004 10:42:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here are the first photos of the fuselage. Just getting started good.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bucker Jungmeister - 1/17/2004 10:50:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sure you won't build one for me??????? Looks good.

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/27/2004 6:55:36 PM   
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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/27/2004 11:44:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here are a few progress photos. All pull pull guide tubes have been installed. Radio installation in fuse is complete. The Sachs 4.2 installation is complete along with cowl installation. I'll build the landing gear next. The fusalage as you see it weighs 7.5 lbs. I'm shooting for 25 lbs or less.

Gerwin try again. If you want to upload images go to the target to the bottom and left of the reply text box.

AJF--2 what with building a full scale Spacewalker II and honeydoos, I'm surprised that I've gotten this far with the Jungmeister.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/28/2004 12:34:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a local who is trying to sell me the kit he purchased a while back. He knows I love a Jungman/Jungmister ever since the days of my Goldberg. Here is a picture of my Pilot Jungman built by a buddy of mine for me. I see where Gary used a LOT of the Pilot designs in the frame work and wing design. In the bones it looked just like mine. I went overkill with a lot of stuff and on mine it came out way too heavy and overpowered. Still flew great, but since the flying wires are functional they were breaking every flight it got to be a big hassel to re-engineer. Boy what I would give to do it all over again. I will keep following the progress of yours and am looking for some finished pictures soon.

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