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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/1/2004 5:05:49 PM   
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Better yet, you are going to stand there and be my walking talking collision avoidance system.

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/1/2004 11:06:43 PM   
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Welp, here's mine. I finally got the landing gear done. I haven't really started the bottom center wing yet. I've been too busy sanding sanding sanding...

I agree with everyone...Ken, you are doing a marvelous job.

More pics later...

Jay

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/2/2004 12:43:08 AM   
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It sure is coming along Jay. That landing gear sure adds a lot of weight. It did on mine. Keep up the good work.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/3/2004 10:54:29 PM   
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Ken,
Did John supply you with any pics of the right side of his plane? For some reason I'm having difficulty locating pictures of the other side of the fuse. If you have any I'd appreciate it if you'd post or email.

Thanks,
Jay

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Some fullsize Bücker PHOTOS... - 8/4/2004 2:59:41 AM   
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Dear Big_Bird:

The PIPE Here again...and recently my German Email buddy placed some of HIS Bücker aircraft photos up at his site, specifically at http://www.biplanes.de/show_hihai_03_buecker.shtml ....NOT just Jungmeisters this time!

I'm ALSO getting Jens Klank, my buddy over in Germany, to help me in obtaining photos OR drawings of the EXACT fuselage framing layout/geometry of just about the ENTIRE full sized Jungmeister's fuselage....I have YET to find ANY info on the exact structural layout on the Jungmeister's fuselage here in North America, as THAT info WILL BE A MUST-HAVE before I can get on with the task of even BUILDING a Giant Scale Jungmeister. let alone actually CAD-drawing it up first!

And you may ask...just WHY am I looking for EXACT structural layout & geometry details for MY Giant Scale Jungmeister's fuselage???

That's because Carl Clemens Bücker and his Swedish colleague Anders ANDERSSON (who COULD have been a distant ancestor of ABBA's keyboardist BENNY ANDERSSON), the designers of the original full scale Jungmeister, unintentionally, ALREADY designed "the perfect RC model structure" for an RC model Jungmeister...which would be, curiously enough, THE EXACT STRUCTURAL LAYOUT OF THE FULL SIZED ONE...so, by following as MUCH as possible the layout OF the full scale aircraft's structure, even with DIFFERENT materials-these being composite fiberglass and carbon fiber tubing (but of a similar format, that being ROUND pieces of tubing) than the full scale aircraft had, I'd be building the STRONGEST, and yet the LIGHTEST in weight, fuselage design for my upcoming RC Giant Scale ABBABIPE Jungmeister's fuselage construction!!!

And if ANYONE reading this thread actually HAS photos OR scale drawings of the Jungmeister FULL SCALE fuselage structure/layout/geometry in their possession...PLEASE, if you could, make them available to share with me for my needs, as before too much longer I'd LOVE to get going on at least the CAD drawing portion of this project...with NO true "modeler's workshop" at my home (which HAS to be created FIRST before I can start flying OTHER aircraft besides my ever-so-sturdy Swizzler) I'm just able to ONLY work on the CAD portion for now!!!

But check the photos out there...and MORE Jungmeister AND Jungmann photos are "scattered about" Jens' site as well on other pages there besides the "linked' one I've mentioned already!

PLEASE help me get that Jungmeister fuselage framing and layout info...someone???

Yours Sincerely,

The PIPE!

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/9/2004 10:13:25 PM   
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At last, the Jungmeister is finally ready for it's test flight. Some final specs: 86.5" W.S., 2086 sq in wing area, weight 27.5 lbs, no balance weight needed. Engine is an old A&M Sachs 4.2 single turning a 24x10 prop at 6300 static. Bisson muffler.

I range checked it today with the engine running and the 8 channel FMA receiver showed no signs of glitching.

Here are a few photos. John Hickman, owner and pilot of the full scale U-79 Bücker Jungmeister, provided me with a nice collection of photos. Thanks a lot John.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/9/2004 10:28:38 PM   
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Pipe I enjoyed looking at the Bückers on your buddies web site. Good luck finding the drawings that you are looking for.

Here are a few more photos. The last one shows me lifting the plane at the balance point. Ever tried holding a 27.5 lb plane up with the tips of 2 fingers? It may be a touch nose heavy but I'm going with that for the first few flights.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/9/2004 10:56:04 PM   
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Ken,
What can I say...WOW! She's a beauty. You're is proving as motivation to continue mine! I would love to see her fly on her maiden!

I received my RCV 120-SP the other day and have it mounted on the fuse. Thanks for the great photos. I hope it fly's like it looks!

Jay

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/9/2004 11:05:12 PM   
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The difference between men and boys is the SIZE of their toys - small boys ride small playground horses, grown up boys ride their playground giant scale model airplanes...hahaha

Ken, that is an absolutely gorgeous Jungie! Congrats again!

I only hope to have my Super Decathlon ready by ends of this year...wow, you finished 2 giant scalers in between...

Marcus

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/9/2004 11:29:20 PM   
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Jay, thanks for the complements. I hope to see yours ready to fly one of these days.

Marcus, before I fly it, I'm going to remove an inspection plate on the bottom of the fuselage and find out what is rolling around in there. One thing that has helped me get these planes ready is not having to get up at 5:20 AM and go to the salt mine every day like I did for 33 years. Retirement, I highly recommend it.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/9/2004 11:43:49 PM   
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Yeah, retirement is THE way to go, guess I can wait another 20 years...
Naah, I actually love what I do, but being my own boss, instead of taking it easy with hours and times, I have an even tighter schedule as before when still an employee...

Well, enjoy it, you deserve it.

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/10/2004 1:56:32 AM   
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Ken i sure have som nice pictures of a job well done .its a beautfull plane thanks . oh yes thank you for helping me set up the throws on my airplane. see you at the field O.M.MC CARSON (GPMAA)

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/10/2004 6:45:53 PM   
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WOW! It actually flies. Three flights today and I don't have to rebuild it. Thanks to heartbeat for flight line assistance and Gremlin Castle for photography. It's very aerobatic.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 8/10/2004 6:54:54 PM   
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Hmm looks like we'll possibly be seeing a new avatar here real soon. Looks nice.


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