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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 1/31/2005 4:00:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		My Fellow Bucker Junkies,
Buckeritis is ruinin' me. Can't sleep at night. Get the cold sweats. Dry mouth and all. I still have my Pica plans and CGM plans. Been thinkin' I'm gonna scatch build a .90 4 stroke size blending both of the above plans. Will probably do a meister based on the Pica outline but lighten it upin the fuse and do something about the awkward fuel tank arrangement, clip the wings so they are the same length as the fuse, and remove the dihedral from the wings. Wife says i need to shut up and do somethin'. What a perdicamint! Any thoughts on the mods? Bryce

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/3/2005 12:15:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ken,
The G-23 recommendation I believe is in error on Arizona's site. If you look at the RCStore.com site:
http://www.rcstore.com/rs/general/listproducts.asp?catid=33&theCount=10&catego=PL
it recommends the G-23 for the 1/4 scale, not the 1/3 scale which is a 45cc gasser. But yeah, there's no way a G-23 could haul around a 1/3 scale Bucker, at least not comfortably...

Bryce,
What's wrong with the fuel tank placement? I find the setup (at least on the Gary Allen plans) quiet slick being removable and all...good centerline w/ the engine to avoid adding a pump (for us glow geeks)...plenty of room in the fuselage for it too. As for the other mods, I probably wouldn't mess with it too much as the Bucker is a good flying plane to begin with I can't wait to finish mine up! I got the cowl and wheel pants this week...I'm triming them up and will be painting soon.

Stay tuned for more pics...
Jay

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/3/2005 4:39:14 AM   
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Status: online 		Bryce, you have me so confused about combining plans, chopping wings, and modifying a screwed up fuel tank arrangement that I can't intellegently comment on this mess.

Sooooooooo, I think you simply need to buy a set of the 1/4 scale plans and build one like Jay did. You can get a lot more helpful comments on that one. I can't believe that you would ever be happy with what you suggested.

Life is too short, go first class, it doesn't cost much more. Read this to your wife and I'll bet she will agree. What do you think Jay?

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/3/2005 9:19:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I agree w/ Ken. While I must admit, the 1/4 scale plans are pretty messed up, the biggest problem is not having the lower center wing layout on the plans and no dihedral information. Since Ken gave that info too me I've been able to work out all the other mistakes on the plans. The poor **** who made the 1/4 scale plans should be shot, but never the less, the bird will be beautiful when she flys this spring/summer. If you hack it to bits bryce it's probably going to be just as easy to build the gary allen plans. It's taken me a year to do this one but this is the 2nd plane I've ever built (first scratch build) so I'm sure someone with more experience will bang it out quicker than me. Besides...when building from scratch it's easier to spread the costs out over the course of the project...easier to hide it from the wife

Just my 2 cents...

Jay

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/16/2005 4:54:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi gents,
Does anyone have a photo of the cowl and fenders for the Gary Allen 1/3 Bucker 133 as supplied by Arizona Models or other supplier. The cowl in the photos of the origional made from wood looks good with the thin leading edge lip. A prefabricated glass cowl would save a lot of labor especially when one gets to the cylinder blisters. So many in the past have a large radius at the leading edge and are not very scale looking. Thanks .

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/16/2005 9:52:03 PM   
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Status: online 		nbldr, Here are photos of the fender and cowl that I got from Arizona Model Aircrafters. You may be able to buy them direct from Stan's Fibertech. The cowl is one piece and I added the parting line and latches. Of course the latches are only for show.

Welcome to RCU and the Jungmeister thread.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/16/2005 10:28:24 PM   
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Thank you for the reply. Truly fantastic looking bird. I built and flew a Platt Bu-133, still have it, for several years. It just needs to be larger. I want to do a functional landing gear which might be possible at 1/3 scale. Is yours the 1/3 scale and if so whos wheels are you using, they look great. Karl

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/17/2005 12:29:29 AM   
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Status: online 		Hi Karl,

Yes, my Jungie is the 1/3 scale version and it does have the functional shock absorbing landing gear. The wheels are Dubro. I normally paint wheel hubs but they came the same color as the full scale plane has.

I couldn't be prouder of my plane and I love it's aerobatic qualities. When you go to the field or a flyin with it you can be sure that it will be the only one there like it, unlike Extras and ARFS.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/17/2005 4:16:44 AM   
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Did I see in a previous post you are using a Sacks Dolmer 4.2? Any idea how it compares to a Zenoah G-62 or DA 3w-50? Any chance of getting a set of your drawings for the functional gear? I have been digging thru my aircraft supply catalogs checking 4130 tube sizes etc. There is a fellow on this forum who is corresponding with someone in Germany trying to get factory drawings. The lower centersection is not generally done correctly on the models i have seen. The lower wing root sections end at the fuse sides and the gear fittings are possibly attached to the carry thru spars. At any rate perhaps he might share whatever he has for clarification. Several years ago when i flew into Dacy airport in Wi.I looked over an origional Bu-133 owned by the Dacys. I mean origional. Looking inside in various places one could see the origional brass tags attached to a sub assembly each signed by the craftsman who made the part. It had the Seimens Halske 160 engine, no U.S. conversion. They finally sold the plane to John Denver due to a family tragedy & of course J.D. has left us as well. I wonder where the plane is today. If I only had a camera. Sorry about being so windy. Thanks for the reply. Karl

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/19/2005 1:15:45 AM   
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Here is my 1/4 scale. I just got the cowl on today. I bought the cowl from Stan's as well. Took him 2 weeks. He did a bang up job.

Jay

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/19/2005 5:12:15 PM   
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Looking great. Is that Stans Fiber tech that you got the cowl from? What engine do you have installed? Karl

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/20/2005 3:39:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Karl,
Yeah, I got the cowl and wheel pants from Stan's Fibertech. He did a great job. As for the engine, I chose the RCV 120-SP. It fits perfectly inside that cowl! It looks really cool inside. I'm not going to add a dummy radial unless I need some nose weight.

Jay

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 2/21/2005 12:05:15 AM   
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Status: online 		Karl, I'll try to answer your questions. The Sachs-Dolmar 4.2 turns the same prop about 300 rpm faster than my G-62. I have no basis to compare it to the 3W. I'm using CH Electronics electronic ignition with Syncro Spark. As you can see from the photo I am using a much modified Bisson vertical muffler. It had 2 pipes coming out the bottom. The bottom was sawed off and a plate welded in place. One of the pipes was welded into the side. I did this to keep the muffler completely inside the cowl. The weight of the 4.2 is very close to a G-62.

The gear is shown on Gary Allen's plans.

The plane that I modeled mine after is shown on my avatar.

Jay, the cowl looks great.

Ken

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RE: Gary Allen 33% Bücker Jungmeister - 3/19/2005 2:23:51 AM   
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