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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 4/18/2008 4:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Guess I check in as well. Been flying my entire life of 19 years, but have only had my ppl for 2, soloed at 16 license as 17. Instrument rating coming this summer. I too fly an arrow, ours is a 1970 but has all the current avionics GNS430(WAAS), MX20 w/ jeppview, AP w/ ALT hold and GS coupling, we just added GPSS to the autopilot. Absolutely an amazing plane with all the lopresti mods, minus the cowling. Flew it to Sun N' Fun last weekend and trued out at 140-141 knots all the way, not bad for the old fat wing arrow. And anyone here who hasn't flown into Sun n fun or Oshkosh, put it on the do to list. Fly and camp right on the field. Your alarm in the morning is the sound of airplanes taking off. To put it simply its a week of heaven on earth for aviation lovers.

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 4/18/2008 7:43 AM   
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And anyone here who hasn't flown into Sun n fun or Oshkosh, put it on the do to list. Fly and camp right on the field. Your alarm in the morning is the sound of airplanes taking off. To put it simply its a week of heaven on earth for aviation lovers.


I have been telling this to people for so long. Both shows are a MUST!!

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 4/18/2008 8:01 AM   
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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 4/18/2008 8:07 AM   
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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 4/18/2008 11:22 PM   
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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 4/19/2008 1:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice plane! I was at Osh last year as well. Stayed for 9 days. I'm planning on flying up again this year in the Clipper.

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 5/17/2008 4:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow! What a parade of airmen who also fly R/C. First time I've read this forum. Absolutely fascinating!

Dad learned to fly in 1927. Soloed in an OX-5-powered Curtiss Jenny. He barnstormed in a Longwing Eaglerock and held me in his lap to convince reluctant farmers that flying was safe - - much to my mother's chagrin! I was hooked on flying at an age before I had recallable memory. Dad flew Curtiss O-1 "Falcons" in the Army Air Corps Reserve from 1931 to 1941. He began flying for American Airlines in 1935 - - Stinson Trimotors and Curtiss Condors. When the DC-3 arrived, he called it the "ultimate airliner." He couldn't envision anything that could surpass that technology. (He retired 33 years later flying B-707's.) I built models as a kid. Or, at least I TRIED to do so. If my rubber-band-powered, 10-cent Baby ROG actually survived its first flight, I was ecstatic. As a sideline, Dad actually bought a model shop in 1946. I was like a kid cut loose in a candy store!

In the "real" airplane world I soloed in 1949 at age 16. Familiar story - - could fly before I could drive. Got my Private at age 17. Got my aircraft mechanic's license at age 18. Korean War came along. I had a draft deferment inasmuch as I was a mechanic for American Airlines. But, my buddies were over there, so I had to do my part, too. Enlisted in the Air Force on my 19th birthday with 117 hours in my logbook. That made the Air Force Cadet program a piece of cake - - at least in the early going. Became a 2 LT and fighter pilot at age 20. Flew the old F-94-A and F-94-B. Then, flew F-89-D's in Alaska with the 449th All-Weather Fighter Interceptor Squadron Released from active duty at age 23. Hired three weeks later by Capital Airlines as a DC-3 copilot. (Dad's "ultimate airliner.") Flew DC-3's, DC-4's, DC-6's, DC-7's Vickers Viscounts, B-727's, B-737's and retired while flying DC-8s on Hawaii layovers. (Best flying on the airline!) 28,000 hours. Got into R/C in 1961, same year that Capital merged with United Airlines. Now, at age 75 I still have powered R/C birds, but mostly enjoy the solitude of model sailplanes. Despite several other models, I still have an ongoing romance with my Olympic 650 - - still in one piece after 20 years or more of faithrful service. I won my first contest with that bird.

Number two daughter is a B-737 captain with Southwest Airlines. Dad didn't live long enough to see it happen. Too bad.

Hey, I really get excited when I read of all the young folks on this forum who are entering into the piloting world. It was 59 years ago that I made my first solo flight. Still remember it. As others have said, even 37 years on an airline's pilot seniority list goes by in the blink of an eye. Just wait and see. Good luck to all!

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 5/17/2008 8:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		What a great story, F-89 Dirver. My grandfather has a connection to the early American Airlines. He was a maintenance mangager, I believe, in the 30's. I have a sculpture made from the base of a prop that is carved into the logo of American. The date on the piece is May 26, 1934 and has his initials on the bottom of the prop, along with the data on the prop. The eagles wings are carved away from the background. Someone did a lot of work.

My Dad was a mechanic and pilot for Delta before the war. He also worked for Braniff as well. He was a flight instructor during the war and a crop duster until he retired and sold his business in the late 70's.

Like you, I got my first airplane ride at an early age. It was in a Stearman when I was 2, strapped inside the parachute harness of a friend of my Dad.

I love the old days of flying and the airplanes. They had personality and character, up to about the 70's, when they all became tin cans.

Oh well.

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 5/21/2008 4:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Speaking of Stearmans (we were, weren't we?) I checked out in a PT-17 when I was 17 years old. Had a heck of a time, initially, landing the thing. I'd only flown high-wing airplanes, and was a bit shy about getting the lower wing so close to the ground. But, I finally got around to making perfect three-point landings and then I got to fly it solo. My dad took 16mm movies to prove that I made beautiful landings with that thing - - on a grass-field airport, of course. (Are there any left?)

With regard to biplanes, when I was 18 I fell in love with a cherry red UPF Waco that a guy had for sale in South Bend, Indiana. He wanted a whopping $800 for it. But, my dad said it was "too much airplane" for me. So, I bought a 1934 Chevy coupe, instead, complete with rumble seat. (My aunt claimed the only reason I bought it was due to the "suicide knob" on the steering wheel.) At 19 I was an Aviation Cadet and began Air Force flight training in T-6's. By the time I was 20, I was a jet fighter pilot. I think Dad could have been just a tad bit wrong when he thought the Waco would have been "too much airplane" for me.

I finally shied away from low buzzing and flying under bridges when a close buddy of mine flew a T-33 into the bridge at Greenville, MS while also trying to be a "Tiger" during Korean War fighter pilot training. It was suddenly a bit sobering. Lost five buddies during and subsequent to the "Police Action" in Korea. Lost a few dozen more close friends in plane crashes during the intervening 55 years since the end of that conflict. 'Twas a bit sobering, - - indeed.

To my mind, the difference between a "wise old pilot" and a dead pilot is just that one of them has mananged to somehow live through his mistakes. And, heaven knows that we've ALL made 'em!

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 5/21/2008 4:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great shot from the back seat of a T-6! Had more fun flying the T-6 (Korean War flight training) than anything I've flown in the past 28,000 hours. That bird is built like a tank! In my youth I tried everything short of crashing it to get something to come apart and fall off. All to no avail. I once did a 25-turn spin just to lay to rest the rumor promulgated by upperclassmen that it wouldn't recover after three turns. I did it right over the base, so everyone could see. To my surprise, somebody called the crash trucks 'cuz they thought I was gonna buy the farm. Seeing this photo, I can hear it and smell it and feel it. Great shot!

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 5/21/2008 5:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don’t want to make a novel out of this particular bulletin board, but I thought modeler/pilots might find the following to be of some interest.

As a kid, I messed around building model airplanes. Hey, didn’t we all? One day I went to the barbershop with my dad. It was busy, and we obviously had a bit of a wait on our hands. The model shop was right next door. I explained to Dad that I needed a nickel tube of Testor’s glue. So we asked the barber to save our place in line while I went next door for a minute. The barber agreed, and Dad followed me into the model shop. As usual, I just had to peruse the boxed contents of several Comet or Guillows models to determine the complexity and the skill that would be required to build a successful example of same.

In those days, there was no such thing as “laser cut.” The necessary pieces were stamped in ink onto a balsa sheet (usually of poor grade) and it was necessary to cut the pieces by hand. X-Acto knives hadn’t hit the scene yet, so a razor blade was the tool of choice - - preferably a single-edge blade. Double-edged blades would do in a pinch, but that usually resulted in also using-up several band-aids.

By the way, Cleveland kits were nice to examine and ogle, but they were WAY too difficult for me or my buddies. I recall looking, longingly, at the Stinson Reliant and the twin-engine Hudson Bomber. Maybe someday - - -

As I selected my tube of glue, Dad also looked at a U-Control kit (R/C was still in the future) and asked the store owner several questions. Eventually, I made my nickel purchase and we returned to the barber shop where I “got my ears lowered.”

Two days later, I came home for lunch from grammar school. When I walked into the house it was full of smoke! I hurried to the basement to see if the coal furnace or the manually-fired water heater had gone haywire. As I went down the stairs into the basement, I could see Dad through all the blue smoke.

He had a Brown Jr. engine in a vise and was “breaking it in with a rich mixture.” Hence, lotsa blue smoke enveloping the interior of the house. Mom had decided to “visit a neighbor lady” while Dad was engaged in this particular activity. She didn’t reappear until the smoke had cleared - - literally.

On a bench he had plans laid out for a U-control “Shark” and had pieces pinned down waiting for the glue to dry. (No “Hot Stuff” or cyanoacrylic wonder stuff back then.) Dad had gotten the bug, and he became an avid U-Control modeler!

Well, one thing led to another, and whaddaya know? He then made an offer and bought the whole model shop! Since he was an airline captain, he could plow the profits back into the store. Eventually, it was necessary to move into a bigger store across the street. Perhaps somebody out there remembers the C&I Hobby Center on 63rd Street near Kedzie Avenue, two miles east of Midway Airport. I got hands-on experience with all of the models and ignition engines that were around in the mid-to-late 1940’s. I remember having fun with a Morton M-5, and the first Dyna-Jet (sounded like a bassoon), and all of the Ohlsson-Rice offerings. Some fun! But eventually the store was sold.

Anyway, it just shows what can happen when a kid is in dire need of a tube of glue.


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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 5/21/2008 6:34 AM   
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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 5/21/2008 7:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		You mentioned the grass fields. My Dad was a flight instructor at Curtis Field in Brady, TX during the war. Curtis Field was just that, a field. It was about a square mile and was all grass. That way the primary students could always take off into the wind until they learned to handle crosswinds. Lots of Stearmans, BT-13's and AT-6's were based there.

After the war, my Dad bought 25 surplus Stearmans and a bunch of BT-13's and made 450 Stearman sprayers out of them. The Stearmans cost $50 each. They may have paid him to take the BT-13's.

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 7/3/2008 5:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Checking in. I'm a full scale pilot for my day job, but I love flying RC too. I've flown Cessna, Piper, DeHavilland, Beechcraft, Pilatus, and Boeing; single engine piston, turbo prop, and multi engine jets. When I first went to check out an rc club I received a lukewarm reception. The general consensus among rc pilots I was told, was that full scale pilots make the worst rc pilots. Within a month I purchased an already built (RTF) Hangar9 P-51 1.50 with a Saito 1.80 and a Futaba 9CAP, and took it to the club. After taking off, flying around, and landing I was quickly accepted and had a great time at that club from then on until I moved. I now fly my beloved Mustang in Japan, along with my F-4U Corsair, F-16 and F-18 EDF. An L-39 from K&A is under construction and an F-117 and X-31 with vectored thrust are in the works.





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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 7/3/2008 5:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		so for your very first flight with no prior experience you flew a 1.50 P-51 successfully solo?

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 7/19/2008 5:53 AM   
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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 7/19/2008 6:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		the Diamond Katana DA-20 is what I really fly. It's a glider with an engine really. Its a nice plane but nothing compared to what I WANT to fly. ( I'm the one in the hat, my instuctor is the person in the white shirt with big glasses but he soon got rid of thoses. That was my first flight. It didn't cost a dime. He shows you what is like before you really start flying lessons. I've been flying since and love it. I am still a student, just about to solo.

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 8/19/2008 8:42 AM   
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Here is the Pitts Special I had to sell when AA started paying me all of that BIG MONEY.

I just started flying R/C, have an RCM Trainer and a couple of old Pattern ships.

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 8/19/2008 7:23 PM   
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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 8/20/2008 1:28 AM   
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I'm an ex-TWA AA pilot. Don't tell anyone...ssshhhh.

Here is the Pitts Special I had to sell when AA started paying me all of that BIG MONEY.

I just started flying R/C, have an RCM Trainer and a couple of old Pattern ships.

Chris...


OOH! I've seen that Pitts! It was raced at Reno correct? Chris, do you know Dennis K. Brown? I own his old Pitts S-1C.

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 8/26/2008 12:31 AM   
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I started flying in 1964, hold a SEL with Com. and Inst. ratings.

I sold my Turbo Saratoga SP several years ago. My yearly cost of flying 200-300 Hours per year had gotten up to $25,000-30,000 per year and I could no longer justify the expense in my business. I'm glad I don't own it today with the current price of 100LL. However, I really miss not having my "Magic Carpet" to move 2-4 people and luggage where and when I wanted. I almost never filled all six seats as I really like to fly with full fuel tanks, and the on-board O2 does not last long for six people. One draw back to using O2 on a Piper is the LOOONNNGGG time it took to get the O2 recharged. I love flying, and really miss it. I consider myself very lucky to have able to fly for 40 years.

I have been active in all forms of Model aviation. I started in FF and Control Line, then in the late 1960's got into RC, in the early 1980's, discovered SAM RC Assist(My favorite, I really love the look of the Old Timers in the air). I have given up on FF, and have sold off most of my FF equipment, just have one plane and a few timers left to get rid of. I now concentrate on SAM RC Assist with some "Back & Fourth" RC, and on RARE occ. I will fly a bit of Control Line.

I'm still driving Dirt Track Stock Cars on 1/3, 3/8 and 1/2 Mile Dirt Tracks. (Currently 3 points out of 1st. place in the championship standings)


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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 8/31/2008 10:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow...I guess I haven't been reading on here for a while. To answer your question, no, the H9 P-51 was not my first flight. I purchased a Park Zone P-51 and had about five flights on it (all solos) before I flew the H9 P-51. Since I had no experience with glow, I asked someone else to help me start it and tune the engine. I let them do the take off, and I took it on downwind (no buddy box). I flew around a bit, did a loop, and then flew it in for a lucky picture perfect landing. I say lucky, because I've had some bounce and goes, and nose-ins since. That's the story though. I'm trying to get into jets now (speed is everything), but I still love that big mustang.

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 10/20/2008 3:49 AM   
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I'm an ex-TWA AA pilot. Don't tell anyone...ssshhhh.

Here is the Pitts Special I had to sell when AA started paying me all of that BIG MONEY.

I just started flying R/C, have an RCM Trainer and a couple of old Pattern ships.

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OOH! I've seen that Pitts! It was raced at Reno correct? Chris, do you know Dennis K. Brown? I own his old Pitts S-1C.

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Hi Slick,
I'm the guy that told you about Josh Klenske over on the Biplane Forum, so yeah I know Denny!

He sold it to Josh. Josh hit the ground flat and hard with it and when repairing it installed gear and cowling like my ship in the picture I sold to Dave Roelofs. He was then instructed that was bad stuff by Denny and Mike Stubbs so he removed it and went with the spring steel gear and stock cowling. He sold it to a man named Cheeseman and a partner that crashed it before you rebuilt it. I guess Mr. Aaron bought it from them.

Good to see it in the air again. I raced against it in 1998 in my first Pitts, an S-1C with an 160 hp O-320. It has the potential to go a lot faster than it ever did at Reno as I was only about 7 mph slower with a huge CI deficit. I'll dig out some pictures of me and Josh racing wingtip to wingtip and post them.

Hope you've been flying that Pitts a lot and are having fun with 'er.

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 11/14/2008 9:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I got my PPL in the year 2000. Been kind hit or miss on the amount of time and money I have been able to devote to flying full scale ever since. But one of the recent highlights was when I got to fly one of my all time favorites, the Stearman. A few years back I flew a full scale 1943 model and it was one of the high points of my life! Of course, this same exact plane is the first plane I ever remember seeing as a child, about 28 years ago, I grew up, moved away and all that stuff, then one day I got a wild hair and decided to see if that little family owned airport with the grass strip still existed... it did! So I called... Now, do they still have the old stearman? YES!

Can I fly it? YES!

Where do I sign?!!

I wasn't checked out for solo flight but had a ton of fun in the hour I was up. That's me up front. As you would expect, it takes a bunch more rudder than a cessna 172 and it's a bit more windy in the cockpit, but other than that it's a pretty straight forward airplane to fly. LOVED IT!

In response to some earlier posts about full scale pilots learing to fly RC- I learned RC long before full scale, BUT my RC skills improved quite a bit after learning how to fly real planes, especially my landings.

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RE: Full scale flyers....roll call. - 11/15/2008 9:28 PM   
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