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RE: xmods vs miniz - 2/16/2004 10:41:31 PM   
xyz



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Status: offline 		my xmod stats these r only my performance upgrades
-my xmod has 6 cells
-nml stage 10-
-hard tread tires
-4.5 degree tie rod
-custom sealed bearings

burns my frinds miniz evry time by a lot.he has some upgrades on his too. i probably bet that miniz are faster than xmod stock but mines very fast and keeps a very good lead on any miniz it races. i do admit to liking miniz more than xmods but the price is a lot cheaper for the money.

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RE: xmods vs miniz - 2/16/2004 10:45:48 PM   
AtomicMods


 

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Status: offline 		XYZ, are your beaings the 2.5 wide ones? If so how do they work? I am talking to a chinese bearing maker about adding these to my product line.

I am also curious if your Stage 10 beats my Lithium Ion XMODS, take a look at the videos and let me know what you think please.

http://www.atomicmods.com/video.htm


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RE: xmods vs miniz - 2/17/2004 12:47:58 AM   
xyz



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Status: offline 		no my bearings r 2.0mm wide
and from those videos i doubt my xmod is faster than ur lithium ones.

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RE: xmods vs miniz - 2/17/2004 1:56:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting, I always wondered just how fast the NML motors were. What is you battery configuration and are you FETed? And where did you get your bearings and what did you pay?

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RE: xmods vs miniz - 2/17/2004 2:19:27 AM   
xyz



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Status: offline 		no i am not feted and i am running 6 duracell rechargebles. i cant say weather the nml stage 10 is accually faster than ur lithiums because its a video but from what i see thhose batts are realy fast
imagine a nml stage 10 with lithium batts .
and as for the batts i got them from a hobby shop in a city named elcerito in california
i cant remember the name tho cuz i hardly ever go there ill get the name asap tho

p.s oh ya and i paid 25 bucks for the bearings.

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RE: xmods vs miniz - 2/17/2004 2:22:00 AM   
AtomicMods


 

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Status: offline 		Its the bearings I was wondering about. I am about to start selling sealed XMOD bearings and motor bearings and was doing market research. like where did you buy them and what did you pay.

I would like to get an NML and try it, I'll bet it would be wild.


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RE: xmods vs miniz - 2/17/2004 2:25:09 AM   
xyz



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Status: offline 		the place is called kit and kaboddle

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RE: RE: xmods vs miniz - 2/17/2004 3:43:12 AM   
chase044



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Status: offline 		tamiya alos make a awd speed thing that you set your car on and it tells you how fast its going. and people at other forums have them and say they are going over 12 mph before they moded them. also do you think when they were doing the review on the mini-z they used rechargables and when they did the xmod they used alkalines. tha rechargebles make it go alot faster without even adding cells. so that could be why they only rated it for 6. something mph. the rechargesbles are consitered stock because they require no mods or any more work to put them in than alkalines. except for charging. ive seen movies of people with xmods that go as fast as 30 mph. with lipo packs, fets and higher voltege capasitors. i like the xmod beter than the mini-z because its cheaper and is as good as the mini-z. you can get a xmod spend a 100 on it and have it go faster than a mini-z for the same price.

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RE: RE: xmods vs miniz - 2/17/2004 3:48:41 AM   
xyz



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Status: offline 		water dipping the motors also helps

http://www.xmodworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1953&highlight=water+dipping+tutorial
thats the link to a water dippin tutorial

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RE: xmods vs miniz - 4/1/2004 10:19:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		You know an easy way to remedy the X-Mods vs. Mini-Z thing is to have an X-Mod owner (ME) and a Mini-Z owner (Whomever) get together on an agreed upon track, and just race. Now I live in Little Rock, AR, I own an X-Mod, Stock motor with bearing upgrades. Still 2wd but it handles great, just gotta learn your car. A good RACER should never be hampered if he has at least a modestly decent ride, an X-Mod is just that, for the price, and I bet a stock Mini-Z with bearings, and a stock X-Mod with bearings would be at the least, a fun filled day reeming the two out, but that's just my opinion. I would venture two good drivers and two machines would be a very competitive race. If you are in the Little Rock area and wanna race, hit me up... rogueangel2k@hotmail.com I'd love to post the stats on this page for you all to see

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RE: xmods vs miniz - 4/1/2004 5:52:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have any of you ever seen or used the ABC DTM SP cars? I recently ran one of these at a local carpet track here and there was no way that the Mini Z's would keep up. I was beating the XRAY M18's on the track with the little car.

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RE: xmods vs miniz - 4/1/2004 6:37:02 PM   
Tigger N. Bennie



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Status: offline 		rogueangel2K,
I'm sure I already posted this before but there were a few Xmod owners here who converted to Mini-Zs, so quite frankly, they were racing their Xmods against Mini-Zs on an RCP Track, which Radio Shack has now decided to sell as well, but under a slightly different name. The same RCP Track is also sold by Kyosho and a few other companies. It also makes me wonder if Radio Shack got the idea for their Xmod from the Mini-X.

Intelligentsia,
Although I haven't seen the ABC DTM cars, I would like to see a few pictures. Myself, I've considered ordering the Mini-X. Have you ran the Mini-X? From my understanding, it can use a standard AM radio, can hold 6 batteries, can use Kyosho Mini-Z tires, has AWD standard, has a motor mounted like the Xmod, and there is a basic kit without a radio for around $22.00.

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RE: xmods vs miniz - 4/1/2004 6:41:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		All I can say is that of these smaller race cars that the DTM SP on carpet is untouchable. The car steered and drove as a pan car. In fact it, it very closely resembles a pan car in its design. I drove the car with six cells and a stock 180 motor.

As far as the Mini X, I have heard nothing but bad things about them. I have heard of issues with the suspension, drivability as well as durability. Based upon the recommendations of others, I would side against the Mini X. I do however give a thumbs up to the DTM SP!

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RE: xmods vs miniz - 4/1/2004 6:53:32 PM   
ashamans



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Status: offline 		i fail to see why someone would want a mini-z over an xmod.......

"crappy turning range" = resistor fix...99 cents
"bad electronics" = fet upgrade..free



so for $51 you have car that is better that something $100 to $150........


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RE: xmods vs miniz - 4/1/2004 6:54:55 PM   
Tigger N. Bennie



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Status: offline 		I've been wondering about the Mini-X and one reason I've been putting it off are the electronics--close to an Xmod? Did you run the DTM SP on Ozite? I've never tried anything lower than a 20 on my Mini-Zs so I know it can't handle ozite carpet worth a darn. If I didn't have an RCP Track to run on, my next step would have been locating foams. By the way, I've noticed that you've posted a few times on Bill's board.

Have you seen these Mini-Zs--Bad to the Bone.

http://home.no/kazifoto/nnny/hi.jpg

http://home.no/kazifoto/nnny/bak.jpg

http://home.no/funflyer/cb3/cb3_under.jpg

http://www.home.no/funflyer/pro27/pro_3.jpg

http://w1.367.telia.com/~u36707229/mini/mcl2.jpg

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